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Does Adele's success prove
Mick_Swagger
21-12-2011
that the reason album sales are down is because the poor quality of music? if one album can sell more than any album in the last decade did, then why are sales in general so low?

for the record im not a fan of Adele.
Gaspanic!
21-12-2011
Adele's success is from being the most appealing of a bad bunch. 10-20 years ago she would have been a small fry
Plug In Baby
21-12-2011
Originally Posted by Gaspanic!:
“Adele's success is from being the most appealing of a bad bunch. 10-20 years ago she would have been a small fry”

There is some genuinely amazing music being produced if only people would stop being so lazy relying on the charts to inform them.
Adcm
21-12-2011
Because its an anomaly. Moving on.
Gaspanic!
21-12-2011
Originally Posted by Plug In Baby:
“There is some genuinely amazing music being produced if only people would stop being so lazy relying on the charts to inform them.”

I well aware of that. I've listened to so many piano driven tracks from relatively unknown female singer songwriters that trounce Adele's hits. If they got radioplay I'm sure they could be just as popular.
Plug In Baby
21-12-2011
Originally Posted by Gaspanic!:
“I well aware of that. I've listened to so many piano driven tracks from relatively unknown female singer songwriters that trounce Adele's hits. If they got radioplay I'm sure they could be just as popular.”

It's infuriating but at the end of the day, if people want to follow the crowd then they miss out.
Adcm
21-12-2011
Originally Posted by Plug In Baby:
“It's infuriating but at the end of the day, if people want to follow the crowd then they miss out.”

If the charts was full of heavy metal, I bet most of the chart buyers wouldn't buy it. It would be replaced by the heavy metal fans. I agree that some would still follow it because it's mainstream though, but maybe they just like dance and pop?
Plug In Baby
21-12-2011
Originally Posted by Adcm:
“If the charts was full of heavy metal, I bet most of the chart buyers wouldn't buy it. It would be replaced by the heavy metal fans. I agree that some would still follow it because it's mainstream though, but maybe they just like dance and pop? ”

You say dance? There is a serious amount of dance music that doesn't get any chart recognition. SBTRKT is just one example that springs to mind. I say again it's lazy, and a case of people acting like sheep. Nothing wrong with chart music, but too many people won't delve deeper.
toanythingtaboo
21-12-2011
No. That logic doesn't really follow.

Adele's success is a demonstration of how lucrative tapping into the typically-non-music-buying market as well as appealing to the pop mainstream, can be.
Plug In Baby
21-12-2011
Originally Posted by toanythingtaboo:
“No. That logic doesn't really follow.

Adele's success is a demonstration of how lucrative tapping into the typically-non-music-buying market as well as appealing to the pop mainstream, can be.”

Good point.
WelshNige
21-12-2011
It's a simple, but rare, case of excellent songwriting, strong vocals and appealing personality combining to form a public friendly act.....
shadesofblack
22-12-2011
Originally Posted by WelshNige:
“It's a simple, but rare, case of excellent songwriting, strong vocals and appealing personality combining to form a public friendly act.....”

Also 21 was so successful because it crossed so many genres and demographics. Do you think Grandma wants Skrillex or Weeknd's House of Balloons? It's not because it wasn't accessible. It was because, to her, it sucked balls (and was inaccessible. Let's be honest). Adele and 21 hit an accord that caught on and spread by word of mouth. People wanted music stripped back with soul and real instruments. People wanted to get all caught up in their feelings. Superficial was out this year. We have all od'd on Katy Perry by now, haven't we? Please Gawd, not another award show performance. And people finally had one artist that everyone could listen too (you can call us sheep, that's cool, if it means not having to listen to more sh!tty euro trash dance music. I apologize to any good euro trash dance music).
Everything lined up for 21 to sell like this. Her voice, the songs, her live performances.
Will an album sell this much ever again? Does it matter?

By the way, I'm sure there are a lot of singers out there looking for a break that have great voices (and in your opinion, better than Adele). Oh well. Shit happens. At least you are informed and know the truth, so all's well.
ilovezenyatta
22-12-2011
why couldnt her debut be successful as her 2nd album. she certainly is a phenomenal singer. making music sales go up again and sales havent been this up since 2004. but i'd like to add that lady gaga also has her album sales are good as well. especially with her first two albums.
Adcm
22-12-2011
Let's not make this thread about Gaga...
Plug In Baby
22-12-2011
Originally Posted by Adcm:
“Let's not make this thread about Gaga...”

I second that. On a thread about out of work Belgium gardeners someone would find a way of bringing up her Born This Way "era".
shadesofblack
22-12-2011
One thing for sure, it proves albums can still sell.
21 just sold nearly 700,000 copies this week.
She will top 15 million sold (not shipped) by years end.

Whether you love her, hate her, or could care less, everyone can agree that those numbers are a good thing for an anemic music industry.
shelleyj89
22-12-2011
Originally Posted by ilovezenyatta:
“why couldnt her debut be successful as her 2nd album. she certainly is a phenomenal singer.”

I can't speak for everyone, but I really don't like her first album. However I adore 21. So I assume there are others out there who feel the same as me.
RIPLEY75
22-12-2011
Adele is the apex example of just how low peoples expectations of 'talent' has fallen.
Her music is nothing more than morose,background noise.
Shadow2009
22-12-2011
I find her success baffling. Yes, I do think she's pretty good and maybe deserved to have a BIG selling album, but 15 million albums sold? I think it's selling so well now BECAUSE it's done so well, if that makes sense? People now what to see what the fuss is about.

Rolling In The Deep was a decent song, Someone Like You is bloody awful and completely over hyped (imo) and Set Fire To The Rain is pretty good but i'm still baffled at their success, too. I've listened to '21' and found it extremely boring, but then again maybe I just don't like her style of music.

Not dissing her, btw. Good on her but I think it's all hype, awards, publicity and reviews over actual quality.
shadesofblack
22-12-2011
Originally Posted by RIPLEY75:
“Adele is the apex example of just how low peoples expectations of 'talent' has fallen.
Her music is nothing more than morose,background noise.”

Bit of a hardass, highbrow opinion there, right? See I think opposite. With access digitally to music from every basement and club around the world, people can be more picky about what they listen to. It just so happens that in 2011, 15 million of us picked her.
yellowlabbie
22-12-2011
Originally Posted by WelshNige:
“It's a simple, but rare, case of excellent songwriting, strong vocals and appealing personality combining to form a public friendly act.....”

Yes, I go along with that. She has such a great personality, along with her songs and singing. Perfect.
Amy76
22-12-2011
Originally Posted by RIPLEY75:
“Adele is the apex example of just how low peoples expectations of 'talent' has fallen.
Her music is nothing more than morose,background noise.”

No - it's not that good! I had to request that it be turned off in a furniture shop recently - it was dreadful, simply dreadful.

Adele is not my cup of tea at all, but good luck to her. She has done well and she must be thrilled with her success.

Her voice is good but I don't like her songs. She sounded fantastic at the Brits but the song was boring.
Josh Pinder
22-12-2011
Not a fan of hers, my mum has 21...i preferred 19 on repeat in comparison.

It doesnt prove anything really...if it was about quality of music as you prove it MORE should be getting massive sales like Adele....but they arent....its just really that Adele has made an album that appeals to a wide audience really.

Personally i find it a bit bleak and lifeless....BUT she seems lovely and actually funny on radio interviews and i do wish her all the best for the future and proud of her success...but she really aint my cup of tea hhaa!
yellowlabbie
22-12-2011
Originally Posted by Amy76:
“No - it's not that good! I had to request that it be turned off in a furniture shop recently - it was dreadful, simply dreadful.

Adele is not my cup of tea at all, but good luck to her. She has done well and she must be thrilled with her success.

Her voice is good but I don't like her songs. She sounded fantastic at the Brits but the song was boring.”

'You asked for it to be turned of in a furniture shop' Who do you think you are?
shadesofblack
22-12-2011
Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“'You asked for it to be turned of in a furniture shop' Who do you think you are?”

Right?! Hahaha! Wow. Girl's got balls of steel for sure.

Although I've never hated a song so much, if I couldn't block it out for 3 1/2 minutes, I'd f*cking leave the store. That way no one gets hurt (If you tried that in a restaurant, they'd piss in your food, guaranteed).
Pick your battles girl. it's not like it's Tyler the Creator or some other inappropriate sh!t. It's a freaking ballad.
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