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Old 22-12-2011, 20:10
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Personally iv got mixed feelings. I was relived he wasn't killed off seeing as imo he's probably one of the soaps best ever characters. I also liked the way they linked Teresa into his exit.

However, I just don't think getting arrested was the right kind of exit for Warren. Part of what makes him popular as a character is that he gets away with so much. So arresting him sort of ruined that for me - anyone else think this aswell?

But correct me if iv missed something obvious but I don't quite get Mitzeee's sudden change of heart over knowing Warren killed Louise. Didn't she know for many months - why has she suddenly decided he needs to try and get Warren done for it and why she said: 'I hope you rote in hell' etc. Joel also felt a bit strange. I just think he was manipulated way to easy by Brendan or something...

Perhaps its just because I don't tend to like exits where characters are arrested and never really heard from again for some reason - especially when there's never any future mention of a trial etc...

Sorry for the rant, nonetheless, great acting from everyone and a good storyline overall.
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Old 22-12-2011, 20:14
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Not everybody watches the E4 one, so for me he hasn't even left yet.
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Old 22-12-2011, 20:18
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It wasn't the huge climax I expected it to be but I'm glad he's still alive. I'm a bit unsure if we got confirmation of Louise's death though?

The final scene blatantly set it up for Warren to return for revenge some day. Here's hoping!
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Old 22-12-2011, 20:21
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It wasn't the huge climax I expected it to be but I'm glad he's still alive. I'm a bit unsure if we got confirmation of Louise's death though?

The final scene blatantly set it up for Warren to return for revenge some day. Here's hoping!
Is it STILL unanswered?! I don't get why someone can't officially confirm that she's dead!
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Old 22-12-2011, 20:26
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SPOILER!

Personally iv got mixed feelings. I was relived he wasn't killed off seeing as imo he's probably one of the soaps best ever characters. I also liked the way they linked Teresa into his exit.

However, I just don't think getting arrested was the right kind of exit for Warren. Part of what makes him popular as a character is that he gets away with so much. So arresting him sort of ruined that for me - anyone else think this aswell?

But correct me if iv missed something obvious but I don't quite get Mitzeee's sudden change of heart over knowing Warren killed Louise. Didn't she know for many months - why has she suddenly decided he needs to try and get Warren done for it and why she said: 'I hope you rote in hell' etc. Joel also felt a bit strange. I just think he was manipulated way to easy by Brendan or something...

Perhaps its just because I don't tend to like exits where characters are arrested and never really heard from again for some reason - especially when there's never any future mention of a trial etc...

Sorry for the rant, nonetheless, great acting from everyone and a good storyline overall.
Mitzeee said a while ago that after watching the Costellos go through the pain of losing Heidi, it brought home to her what Warren did to Louise and her family (or words to that effect).
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Old 22-12-2011, 20:27
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I'm sort of mixed, but i think its my own fault. Personally, I hoped they'd dig up the grave to find out Louise's body wasnt there.. or then when the police went to do it there would be nothing there (though there is still time for that but this was his final episode right? So that seems less plausable?).. It was all just a bit too straight forward.. Lacked a bit of a twist..

Mitzeee was accepting of the murder on the basis that it was self defence until Heidi was killed. After that, as she said in the show, looking at Warren made her feel sick because all she saw was a killer. She was seeing the grief that Seth, Riley, Jason and Carl were going through and that she was going through herself and couldnt stand Warren because she knew he had forced Louises family to go through the same. I guess because both were a bit similar - neither Silas or Warren arguably intending on killing the person they did (Silas didnt mean to kill Heidi and Warren intended to marry not murder lousie before the events of the day began..) - it had more of an effect too...
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Old 22-12-2011, 20:30
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I didn't really like it - for me it just didn't seem to finish his character. I always wanted Louise to turn up and shoot him, but that's just me haha.
Hopefully there could be a return...?
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Old 22-12-2011, 20:35
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I didn't really like it - for me it just didn't seem to finish his character. I always wanted Louise to turn up and shoot him, but that's just me haha.
Hopefully there could be a return...?
Will only take a couple of years...
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Old 22-12-2011, 20:35
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Is it STILL unanswered?! I don't get why someone can't officially confirm that she's dead!
Mitzeee dug a hole but I didn't see anyone in it. Warren seemed to confirm once again that he killed Louise but they didn't show a body or have anyone comment on seeing one. I'm hoping the next episode or later ones will state whether Louise was in the grave or not.
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Old 22-12-2011, 20:37
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Mitzeee dug a hole but I didn't see anyone in it. Warren seemed to confirm once again that he killed Louise but they didn't show a body or have anyone comment on seeing one. I'm hoping the next episode or later ones will state whether Louise was in the grave or not.
Same here!

I don't understand why HO are so keen to keep her death a mystery. If anything it's becoming an annoyance, however I DO want to know (as does the audience I presume). I liked Louise in the show but now it's 3 years since she died its not like she was a "legend of a character" who we're hotly waiting a return from, so just confirmation please HO!



Lol I sound angry, i'm not really but it's quite a big plot hole tbh.
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Old 22-12-2011, 20:40
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Mitzeee dug a hole but I didn't see anyone in it. Warren seemed to confirm once again that he killed Louise but they didn't show a body or have anyone comment on seeing one. I'm hoping the next episode or later ones will state whether Louise was in the grave or not.
What would they hold onto Warren for though? The police still don't know about him killing Sean, Kyle or that homeless guy do they? I would however, perhaps like it to be confirmed in the future that Louise was not there, and off screen Warren is released, leading to Mitzeee, Joel, Brendan etc looking over their shoulders...

Would be stupid but...
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Old 22-12-2011, 20:41
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Same here!

I don't understand why HO are so keen to keep her death a mystery. If anything it's becoming an annoyance, however I DO want to know (as does the audience I presume). I liked Louise in the show but now it's 3 years since she died its not like she was a "legend of a character" who we're hotly waiting a return from, so just confirmation please HO!



Lol I sound angry, i'm not really but it's quite a big plot hole tbh.
lol

I agree with you. I'm thinking there must have been a body in the grave. The police can't keep Warren imprisoned indefinitely for allegedly trying to kill Mitzeee and stating he wished he had. If he's leaving the show long term then they have to have something substantial to keep him locked up.

Poor Louise though. Strangled/smothered to death


What would they hold onto Warren for though? The police still don't know about him killing Sean, Kyle or that homeless guy do they? I would however, perhaps like it to be confirmed in the future that Louise was not there, and off screen Warren is released, leading to Mitzeee, Joel, Brendan etc looking over their shoulders...

Would be stupid but...
Just made a similar post before I saw yours
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Old 22-12-2011, 20:45
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What would they hold onto Warren for though? The police still don't know about him killing Sean, Kyle or that homeless guy do they? I would however, perhaps like it to be confirmed in the future that Louise was not there, and off screen Warren is released, leading to Mitzeee, Joel, Brendan etc looking over their shoulders...

Would be stupid but...
Exactly! The only thing they can charge him for is Louise's death. And if she's not in the grave like we keep being led to believe, then what's he going to go down for?

lol

I agree with you. I'm thinking there must have been a body in the grave. The police can't keep Warren imprisoned indefinitely for allegedly trying to kill Mitzeee and stating he wished he had. If he's leaving the show long term then they have to have something substantial to keep him locked up.

Poor Louise though. Strangled/smothered to death




Just made a similar post before I saw yours
I liked Louise and her death was tragic (if she's dead that is) because of the pregnancy. But I want an answer. And I want it now! ...

If they're so scared of showing us "dead Louise" can't they just do it on a late night special? I.e. Mitzeee has to help the police uncover the spot where she's meant to be or something? (Although they sort of know now anyway).

It's bizarre.
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Old 22-12-2011, 20:45
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Not a great exit and thought it would be a lot more sinister. I hate how HO just wraps everything up in a nice little package and then just wipes it from the characters memories. It's just annoying. Happen with the Silas stuff too, and Ethan's exit.
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Old 22-12-2011, 21:08
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only Louise knew about Sean's murder IIRC
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Old 22-12-2011, 21:14
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I personally thought it was a bit lame. I love Jamie Lomas/Warren.
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Old 22-12-2011, 21:17
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Old 22-12-2011, 21:19
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i quite liked it. was well tense aha and he got his comeuppance! him thinking Joel was on side and then right at the end Joel standing in was well good, and liked that the episode showed him having a real downfall and 'losing everyone'. the fighting was a bit naff but i think for a character like warren it was good to see him pay for what he's done without the usual killing off? but at the same time i did think it could have been bigger/better for someone as good a character and actor as Jamie/Warren?
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Old 22-12-2011, 21:23
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on another topic did riley just hand over the pub to darren
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Old 22-12-2011, 21:23
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I don't think the police will be able to convict him for any of his other wrongdoings.

There could be enough grounds for self defence/provocation, so his responsibility might be diminished in the eyes of the law and he'd only get a few years at most. I would love him to return in a few years and reveal that he wasn't actually convicted of murder.
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Old 22-12-2011, 21:25
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i quite liked it. was well tense aha and he got his comeuppance! him thinking Joel was on side and then right at the end Joel standing in was well good, and liked that the episode showed him having a real downfall and 'losing everyone'. the fighting was a bit naff but i think for a character like warren it was good to see him pay for what he's done without the usual killing off? but at the same time i did think it could have been bigger/better for someone as good a character and actor as Jamie/Warren?
Jamie's not that gd an actor but then neither is Emmett IMO,I'd rate Ashley and Nick Pickard above them
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Old 22-12-2011, 21:34
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i think Emmett and Jamie are well good, Jamie is better when he's 'evil' imo aha, he gets a bit scary!

what i never get in soaps and stuff is where, like today when Mitzeee was digging and Warren was like "DIG", why are people so scared? what i mean is most of the time we see in soaps a villain forcing someone to do something/threatening them, when they dont actually have a weapon? so like today when he made her dig, why didn't she run cause i know he's 'strong' but it's not like he would have shot her or anything? do i make sense lol?
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Old 22-12-2011, 22:02
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on another topic did riley just hand over the pub to darren
With Carls financial clout, I have no doubt that the Dog was purchased outright. Riley hated the place, Darren loved it. So Riley just wanted out without the 'mess' of having to sell it. So it is in Darrens hands but not really owned by him, still owned by the Costellos. Nothing is made clear is it? If its in the Costello name , Darren can't borrow on it, Hey but who knows ?????
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Old 22-12-2011, 22:05
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I don't think the police will be able to convict him for any of his other wrongdoings.

There could be enough grounds for self defence/provocation, so his responsibility might be diminished in the eyes of the law and he'd only get a few years at most. I would love him to return in a few years and reveal that he wasn't actually convicted of murder.
Can he prove self defence or provocation?
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Old 22-12-2011, 22:08
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SPOILER!

Personally iv got mixed feelings. I was relived he wasn't killed off seeing as imo he's probably one of the soaps best ever characters. I also liked the way they linked Teresa into his exit.

However, I just don't think getting arrested was the right kind of exit for Warren. Part of what makes him popular as a character is that he gets away with so much. So arresting him sort of ruined that for me - anyone else think this aswell?

But correct me if iv missed something obvious but I don't quite get Mitzeee's sudden change of heart over knowing Warren killed Louise. Didn't she know for many months - why has she suddenly decided he needs to try and get Warren done for it and why she said: 'I hope you rote in hell' etc. Joel also felt a bit strange. I just think he was manipulated way to easy by Brendan or something...

Perhaps its just because I don't tend to like exits where characters are arrested and never really heard from again for some reason - especially when there's never any future mention of a trial etc...

Sorry for the rant, nonetheless, great acting from everyone and a good storyline overall.
Yeah I didn't quite get that myself, yes I know she said she seen how the Costellios were devastated about Heidi getting murdered, but still all of a sudden she sees him as a murderer. She could sleep with him before, but now she can't because he creeps her out, how did he not creep you out before. Everything seemed a bit rushed to me just to fit it with Warren's exit.
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