I mean I know its each to their own and all that but when you break it down:

She has a hand in writing almost every song (exception to the covers) she doesn’t mime, she has great stage presence a really connection with the audience.

14x Platinum in the UK

10x Platinum in Australia (edging closer to 11)

5x Platinum in the US

And that’s just 21, let’s not forget the re-emergence of 19 as well.

Then we have the singles. Rolling in The Deep #1 for 2011 in the US

Someone Like You most likely #1 for 2011 in the UK and both of these are 400,000K plus sellers in Australia which is great for a small market.

Is it just a case of tall poppy syndrome? We’ve seen how someone can capture the world and all people want to do is bring them down?

For the record I’m a huge fan and have been from the start. I purchased 19 the day it came out, as I did with 21. Coming from Australia I thought it was criminal nothing from the 19 era got near our Top 100.

Sorry if this seems a little all over the shop…. But I for one congratulate her for being recognised for her talent.

She's slaying people's faves. Simples.

Nope... she's just overplayed and dreary IMHO

Saturation point has been reached

Her songs become annoying when you hear them 100's of times forcefully. She's still ok though, but she seems a bit of a **** in real life, dunno why, always comes across bad.

yes. SLY really annoyed me, it showed she can sing, but this national adoration is so OTT. 2 octave range and to say that mariah struggled for years to be popular here (and still isnt entirely - from a sales perspective - in comparison to madonna/whitney) is awful. girl can sing and write but shes nothing new at all. shes only had this rush because people want her to be good. if there was another female balladeer at the brits singing too it'd be interesting to see the reaction, would it have been the same for adele? it took me by surprise, she's good, but not THAT good. and as strong contraltos go, adele is a small fry. her belt on RITD is as powerful as her voice gets. impressive but not the 2nd coming. props to her, but come on. theres a limit LOL. it shows that people still buy albums and theres no problem with music's value. its just that people are pretty ignorant about music. she benefitted because most who bought 21 dont really fileshare. hence her sales. the fame sold well here, but was shared around like an STD (did you see what I did there? )

and she got lucky too. in the US her album sold well initially, but RITD wasnt number one. it wasnt even a top 10 hit when the album came out, so there was room for growth. radio werent really playing her at all (i was checking the radio songs and pop songs charts on Billboard at the time) or on a big enough scale for it to push her into the top 10. then it took off and people heard it more on the radio and it went stratospheric. a little more airplay did wonders for her. her sales were doing better than the airplay for most of april, and then radio shot up. she was at number one for a couple of weeks on the singles chart before her radio songs position became a top 3 hit.

and mega airplay helps her shift 300k per week and makes the album sell, which it did. and then SLY was a slow burner as was SFTTR (looking at itunes i thought there must have been some promo strateg for a double A-side as both songs were rising quickly on itunes - and then day by day SLY took over.) no idea how it was done but the label managed to have it not announced as a single but people were buying it (SLY) and it hit number one, incidentally after an awards show performance. so it breaks a record like it did here. but thats off topic

in short, she's good but not good enough to have the highest selling UK album of the 21st century. thats silly. from a vocal point of view, its not deserved at all (from technique to power). also her image helps her. white girl singing soul sells better (no idea why - it never tops the real thing ) than black girl singing soul ie. Xtina vs jennifer hudson. although she has a powerful voice, she's not a soul singer (adele). power and emotion doesnt equal soul, and people should remember that. you can just tell who's a soul singer and who isnt.

Some people don't like her, get over it.

For me it's not about her "slaying" my favourite artists or her massive sales, I'm just tired & bored of her music. She honestly seems like a genuinely nice person and it's amazing that she's had so much success without being a size zero puppet void of any personality or artistic vision, I take my hat off to her. I just want her to disappear for a few years (Which she will) and take her overplayed songs with her

i said this months ago, in a similar thread. its cool to dislike adele. she has joined ranks with the likes of coldplay, in terms of releasing hugely successful music. yet, no one seems want to admit buy their music.

adele doesn't strike me as someone that`s bothered by that though and she`s even hinted on taking a long break. maybe, once she`s out of the way, people might start to miss her.

I think she is great and I am really proud of the success she has achieved internationally.

Yeah, jealousy is a terrible thing.

Lol, you are right, I can never understand why people think there is only room in the music world for their own favourite artists. I think 21 album is in a league of it's own, it is brilliant, each track is a winner. Shame we have to wait another 2-3 years for the next album, but it will be worth it.

To me there is absolutely no hatred, I just don't particulary care for her and it's all down to one thing...her personality. With such a polorising personality she is always going to have some people who dont like her. I don't mind her music and most definitely respect her voice, but her personality makes it hard for me to get invested in her or her songs.

I think that's a reason for some of the posts I've seen on a couple of forums.

Because according to the little monsters this was meant to be Gaga's big year where she would be No1 in the world and watching Gaga monthly try and top and out do herself has brought me many lols. Then this chick from London sings her song at the Brit awards that then goes viral and though Gaga has done very well this years Adele has left her in the dust. Heck you know you must being doing something right is Glee can do a mashup of two of your songs and it goes No1 on Itunes.

Also in this counrty if anyone does "too good" we turn on them. You don't have to like her or her music but as Brit i'm proud she's is doing so well without having to strip off on stage or wear crazy outfits or producer 10hr long music videos.

I don't like all of her songs and do feel that they are a little overplayed but those two Alex and Leona fans bltching should be thankful Adele didn't release 21 next year when they release their music instead of hating on Adele.

At least Adele has the guts to take a break for a few years between making music (Beyonce, Rhianna, Gaga)

if i had too get rid of all the albums by people who i thought didn't have much of a personality then i would loose about half my collection.
when listening to any music i am not thinking "oh i wonder if this person is a nice person " or "oh i wonder if they like having fun"
i like music because of the music not because whoever is doing it is a good laugh or not .

This

Not a big fan of Rihanna personally, but damn is her music addictive

Yes, hate may be to strong. I'm just talking about all the negativity towards her. As its been said befor. Adele doesn't need to use sex to sell her music. So much if it now a days is centred around sex and getting drunk at the club. (rihanna, lmfao)

Surely only to the Mentally deficient?
Her dreadful racket goes through me like a dose of salts

Well some of it is... Umbrella

I don't like that most of her songs are about 1 thing and 1 thing only: A break up with some dude. :yawn:

Plus she comes across as a real miserable so-and-so, particularly in magazine shoots and interviews. It's that chavvy "an' what?" look. Can't stand it!

A miserable so and so?? You are having a laugh, aren't you? Fair enough if you don't like her music etc but to call her miserable is just silly. You must be getting influenced because her music is frequently sad. Adele in interviews is hilarious.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iabAuKv9KPg

No Coldplay are just rubbish along with radiohead simple

Adele as you say has reached her saturation point and is slaying peoples favourites

This makes me ashamed to be human.
At the moment, the charts are filled with X Factor idiots, stick thin divas, rappers screaming down the mike about getting with some chick at a club and Justin freakin Bieber.
Then comes along a girl who is different. She's not a stick thin, gorgeous pop singer. Apparently, you need to be beautiful to get anywhere in the pop world these days. Just look at Little Mix; they went from popularity to popularity for being a rare thing on that ridiculous show these days (good singers), and all the papers could do was attack one of them for being slightly overweight (which, in my opinion, she isn't). Then you read monstrosities like Heat, snapping pictures of singers like Rhianna and pointing out if their wasteline has slightly increased since 1 week previously.
It's freaking disgusting.
Adele is a break from the trend. She stood up, at the Brits, and delivered one of the most beautiful songs (yes, I know it's a cover) that I have ever heard, sung lovely. Her music isn't cheerful, and it does not appeal to everyone, but Adele will always have my support for daring to be different, and making it.

Hatred is a bit of a strong word.

Why the mild annoyance? Personally I think there is a lot of hyperbole surrounding her, she has sold enough records to quite literally equal the GDP of Greece, but personally I don't see anything spectacularly new or inovative in her musical output. Now, music doesn't need to be new or inovative to be enjoyable. This of course is fine, but can be quite annoying when combined with the tendancy of her fan base to proclaim her as the saviour of music.

Adele doesn't annoy me in the slightest, her fan base is the issue. Very smug and seem to react to any criticism of their "favourite" with accusations of jealousy or comments like "she's slaying your fav".

Its all very tribal and pointlessly competative, who cares who sells more records, surely the point in the whole enterprise is to just enjoy listening to music? Not to score points against fans of other artists by comparing sales, after all it's Adele's achievement, not her fans. They have nothing to be smug about.

For the record, just incase I am accused of being upset that she is "slaying my favourite", she is. Adele will probably sell more records than every artist I bought this year put together, infact I doubt most of my favourite bands have ever uttered the phrase "top forty single", but thats ok.

Similarly, the odd thing about Adele's fan base, is that the group most likely to raise the issue of her weight is..... her fans. Constant fawning about how good it is to have an artist that isn't "stick thin". For me, I couldn't care less if a singer looked like Kate Moss or the Elephant Man, it isn't relevant to music.

Putting all this together, my issue with Adele has very little to do with her or her music, but when you strip back all the hyperbole from her fans and the press, her sales and her non typical appearance I don't think the music is anything overly special. I would ask the question, really what does 21 musically comtribute that hadn't been done before. I would argue very little. There is a discrepancy between the proclamation of her fan base that she is a return to "real music" and the substance of what she has actually produced. Good album, nothing more.

While I don't see much of intestest in Adele the singer, I find Adele the popular culture phenomenon facinating. It is telling that the post above only mentioned Adele's music in passing in the final part of their post, in fact they spent more time discussing what adele isn't than what she is.

Adele isn't a rapper, she isn't stick thin, she isnt part of the gossip mag culture, she wasn't on the X-factor, but what IS she?

For me she's a good singer. Thats it.

I think the question "Adele, why the love?" would be more telling.

she isnt really different though. shes average weight. jennifer hudson is popular and was before she lost her weight. now jennifer was big but adele isnt. she was in her teens, but now shes shapely. she seems special due to the absence of straight up balladeers in pop. props to her though. the world of fashion is the problem, they dont hire people unless they are 6ft (men) pretty and skinny. weird because no one looks like that all the time. some of the girls look so ugly, no idea how/why they hire them. and with LM, it was because most groups on XF have a dream but arent really good singers. same for most bands full stop.

ah. a thinker at last

no idea really. RITD was a good song, and SLY led on from there. but her sales are odd. 21 had massive sales with not much exposure besides a #2 the week before its release. beyonce was epic at glasto but came in with.....88k??? no idea why? she showed that 4 is the album to buy but not many did. adeles been popular since 19's debut at #1. still no idea why. she can sing as you said and well. but she's not the saviour of music at all, 21 features live instruments as does 4 and many other albums. 21's outsold Bad, the immaculate collection, back to black and many others. what amazes me is how stevie wonder hasnt got an album to sell over 3m copies here??? innervisions?? fulfillingness' first finale trumps 21, musically, socially and lyrically! but alas, its music and the promo isnt the same. shes good but not THAT good. and same for spirit too. bleeding love saved leona