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Why the hatred for ADELE?
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geordielady
24-12-2011
Originally Posted by konebyvax:
“Perhaps it may be pertinent at this point for you to list the singers you think are better? It's a bit like politics, isn't it? - always easier to be in opposition. Time for you to be in the firing line for a change?? I'll start you off - at the moment the only female singer i would rate higher than Adele currently is K D Lang (was brave enough to say this on Adele's AT). Over to you...”

Well I raise the bar to 7 females who are certainly head and shoulders ahead of Adele vocally and it took me 10 seconds to think of these. And I am not even a fan of some of these either.
Guess some people could multiple this list of mine by 10.

Karen Carpenter
Dido
Amy Lee
Jennifer Nettles
Celin Deon
Mariah Carey
Jennifer Rush
WelshNige
24-12-2011
Originally Posted by geordielady:
“Well I raise the bar to 7 females who are certainly head and shoulders ahead of Adele vocally and it took me 10 seconds to think of these. And I am not even a fan of some of these either.
Guess some people could multiple this list of mine by 10.

Karen Carpenter
Dido
Amy Lee
Jennifer Nettles
Celin Deon
Mariah Carey
Jennifer Rush”

In your OPINION, which is fine for you but means less than the square root of sod all to the rest of us......
geordielady
24-12-2011
Originally Posted by WelshNige:
“In your OPINION, which is fine for you but means less than the square root of sod all to the rest of us......”

I doubt your find many profesionals in the music industry who would disagree with me.
Likewise Adeles fans views that Adele voice is so great is only their opinion as well.
WelshNige
24-12-2011
Originally Posted by geordielady:
“I doubt your find many profesionals in the music industry who would disagree with me.
Likewise Adeles fans views that Adele voice is so great is only their opinion as well.”

I think I would based on the amount of praise Adele gets from her fellow preofessionals.

As for your second comment I agree entirely, but if someone posts to say they like her voice why do you then feel the need to tell them that there are X number of better singers out there, when all it is is your opinion against theirs, i.e. it proves nothing.....
iseloid
24-12-2011
Originally Posted by WelshNige:
“I think I would based on the amount of praise Adele gets from her fellow preofessionals.

As for your second comment I agree entirely, but if someone posts to say they like her voice why do you then feel the need to tell them that there are X number of better singers out there, when all it is is your opinion against theirs, i.e. it proves nothing.....”

because of her tone and expression. from a technical perspective, shes awful (ie technique is horrendous + smoking has destroyed her voice).
WelshNige
24-12-2011
Originally Posted by iseloid:
“because of her tone and expression. from a technical perspective, shes awful (ie technique is horrendous + smoking has destroyed her voice).”

Cut the melodrama for goodness sake, for many millions she has an excellent, expressive and moving voice.

Yes we understand you don't like her, just move on to the many technically brilliant singers that I'm sure you adore and leave the vast majority of us to enjoy Adele in all her glory eh....
iseloid
24-12-2011
Originally Posted by WelshNige:
“Cut the melodrama for goodness sake, for many millions she has an excellent, expressive and moving voice.

Yes we understand you don't like her, just move on to the many technically brilliant singers that I'm sure you adore and leave the vast majority of us to enjoy Adele in all her glory eh....”

no its true. many internet pedagogists have said they saw this coming. i have singing lessons with our musical theatre group and the director showed us - its the 'dont forget me' of SLY is dangerous to sing frequently. she's constricting her throat to compensate. (on the album version). she does it frequently on 21. not her fault, just she needs to learn how to sing properly. oh and in regards to the rest, i will
oh and people think xtina is incredible but is horrible from a technical perspective too.
geordielady
24-12-2011
Originally Posted by WelshNige:
“I think I would based on the amount of praise Adele gets from her fellow preofessionals.

As for your second comment I agree entirely, but if someone posts to say they like her voice why do you then feel the need to tell them that there are X number of better singers out there, when all it is is your opinion against theirs, i.e. it proves nothing.....”

See as usual you dont read the posts, an adele stan made a claim she is the second best singer since time begain or something and asked people to disprove it.
I did that in 10 seconds with 7 examples.
geordielady
24-12-2011
Originally Posted by iseloid:
“no its true. many internet pedagogists have said they saw this coming. i have singing lessons with our musical theatre group and the director showed us - its the 'dont forget me' of SLY is dangerous to sing frequently. she's constricting her throat to compensate. (on the album version). she does it frequently on 21. not her fault, just she needs to learn how to sing properly. oh and in regards to the rest, i will
oh and people think xtina is incredible but is horrible from a technical perspective too.”

You wont convience the Adele stans that Adele's voice is not that great.
OK she can sing but when thinking about the really great female singers doubt many outside her fanbae would even think of adele at all.
WelshNige
24-12-2011
Originally Posted by geordielady:
“See as usual you dont read the posts, an adele stan made a claim she is the second best singer since time begain or something and asked people to disprove it.
I did that in 10 seconds with 7 examples.”

No you didn't, you named 7 singers who in your OPINION are better than Adele.

Please don't have the arrogance to assume that your opinion is fact, it isn't.
WelshNige
24-12-2011
Originally Posted by geordielady:
“You wont convience the Adele stans that Adele's voice is not that great.
OK she can sing but when thinking about the really great female singers doubt many outside her fanbae would even think of adele at all.”

Funny thing is I'm not an Adele "stan" as you so 'amusingly' put it, I like her yes but have many other female singers who I prefer such as Kate Bush, Tori Amos, Sarah McLachlan, Natalie Merchant, Maria McKee, Heather Nova etc etc .

What I do hate though is the usual suspects on here who make it their duty to try and belittle the undoubted success she has acheived.

It's all extremely childish IMO and rather sad.
geordielady
24-12-2011
Originally Posted by WelshNige:
“No you didn't, you named 7 singers who in your OPINION are better than Adele.

Please don't have the arrogance to assume that your opinion is fact, it isn't.”

I named 7 singers that are known for having fantastic voices.
I mean how can you say Karen carpenter being better than adele is just my opinion. she had the greatest female voice ever created, thats not an opinion thats a fact.
You know if people are gonna say crazy things like adele has the greatest voice ever then you cant expect people not to laugh at it and challenge it.

I dont care who likes Adeles voice but when put up against the heavyweight female artists her voice is very ordinary.
Actually me and hubby came up with around another 20 females with better voices than adeles.
WelshNige
24-12-2011
Originally Posted by geordielady:
“I named 7 singers that are known for having fantastic voices.
I mean how can you say Karen carpenter being better than adele is just my opinion. she had the greatest female voice ever created, thats not an opinion thats a fact.You know if people are gonna say crazy things like adele has the greatest voice ever then you cant expect people not to laugh at it and challenge it.

I dont care who likes Adeles voice but when put up against the heavyweight female artists her voice is very ordinary.
Actually me and hubby came up with around another 20 females with better voices than adeles.”

Still OPINION and not fact, if you don't understand the difference than I'm not going to waste my time carrying on this conversation.......
Starfire Belle
25-12-2011
I do know of Adele and have heard some of her songs on music television. She seems alright,but not amazing. I have missed the saturation radio play of her tracks, as she's not played on the radio stations I listen to. But fair play to her for her success.
Lewnaticc
25-12-2011
When an artist becomes successful, more and more people become aware of them. Not everyone is going to like you, so the divide between lovers and haters grows bigger, bigger and bigger.
I never used to like Adele, I found her dreary and overplayed, however I have since noticed her album is probably one of the only thing in the charts you could call "music". Love it or hate it, decent song writing, an impressive larynx, substance, quality, hard work... it's all there. She's a very talented woman, and I say this as an impartial listener. I am nor fan or hater of Adele.
Microkorg
25-12-2011
Originally Posted by WelshNige:
“Still OPINION and not fact, if you don't understand the difference than I'm not going to waste my time carrying on this conversation.......”

GOOD!
chuck_wippl
25-12-2011
Just saw her performing live again somewhere...and again, I just...just...I just don't see it

I find her voice very weak and strained. Alright songs I guess, (only a few though, imo. I find her subject matters so depressing and same-ey) but the voice just isn't there to warrant all this praise and attention she receives. FLAT. BOVINE. DREARY.
konebyvax
25-12-2011
Originally Posted by Microkorg:
“GOOD!”


You seem to have completely ignored post 50 Come on, in the spirit of Xmas, maybe you could share with us who you DO like. All i remember from your posts is who you DON'T like. Very negative. Time for putting that head above the parapet...be brave now.
ItsNick
25-12-2011
I've never liked her music. I know a loads of people rave about her but to me her music is just boring.
Id rather listen to Shalamar or ELO.
ItsNick
25-12-2011
Originally Posted by mememee:
“Because they feed off hate. Just don't read too much into it. The sales speak for themselves.”

Personally I couldn't give a toss about sales figures. I don't like her music and thats that.
Jonesy88
26-12-2011
Personally I don't buy into the whole curious buyer thing. Yes some people would have purchased it out of curiosity, but millions? I think most would have illegally downloaded it first and eventually purchased it.
BobbyMcGee
26-12-2011
Originally Posted by Jonesy88:
“Personally I don't buy into the whole curious buyer thing. Yes some people would have purchased it out of curiosity, but millions? I think most would have illegally downloaded it first and eventually purchased it.”

I did the latter. Do it with most albums i buy.
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