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The John James Appreciation Thread (Part 11)
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Originally Posted by bblover:
“Wow....interesting posts to read,and i read them all,even though some of them were looooong
When i saw John's audition tape,i thought this was another wannabe,dull pretty boy!Shabbs was the only one i liked a bit lol
I thought him and Rachael were going to be another Chris&SofieBut to my surprise,he couldn't stand her,poor girl,i felt sorry for her,John was imo totally our of order,with the way he behaved towards her,and talked behind her back....especially to Gov&Jose!That situation got me interested in him tbh,i got his point,but didn't agree with the way he dealt with it.
That was John's Achilles heels throughout his time in the house,took him time to get his point across,without getting "angry",he had short fuse,but he could be so patient and calm at other times too....
I don't think housemates feared him,but knew he had a pretty good fanbase....
I liked his weird relationship with Sunshine!
Also,enjoyed Doomy&Gloomy
Also Dave,was the only one that could listen to his rantings,without trying to change the subject lol....He also gave him some good advice,loved their relation,especially when Ben got evicted.
John often said what most of them were thinking,but couldn't voice them,nominations,and house harmony might've been the reason
He could be brutally honest at times,and when you're in an environment like that,subtlety can come in handy.
He could've easily made it to the final,but he was too controversial,and was rebellious against BB.He was a great housemate,and i'm not being biased.
”
“Wow....interesting posts to read,and i read them all,even though some of them were looooong
When i saw John's audition tape,i thought this was another wannabe,dull pretty boy!Shabbs was the only one i liked a bit lol
I thought him and Rachael were going to be another Chris&Sofie
But to my surprise,he couldn't stand her,poor girl,i felt sorry for her,John was imo totally our of order,with the way he behaved towards her,and talked behind her back....especially to Gov&Jose!That situation got me interested in him tbh,i got his point,but didn't agree with the way he dealt with it.That was John's Achilles heels throughout his time in the house,took him time to get his point across,without getting "angry",he had short fuse,but he could be so patient and calm at other times too....
I don't think housemates feared him,but knew he had a pretty good fanbase....
I liked his weird relationship with Sunshine!
Also,enjoyed Doomy&GloomyAlso Dave,was the only one that could listen to his rantings,without trying to change the subject lol....He also gave him some good advice,loved their relation,especially when Ben got evicted.John often said what most of them were thinking,but couldn't voice them,nominations,and house harmony might've been the reason
He could be brutally honest at times,and when you're in an environment like that,subtlety can come in handy.
He could've easily made it to the final,but he was too controversial,and was rebellious against BB.
He was a great housemate,and i'm not being biased.”
he was a great HM and with hindsight I would have liked to have seen less JJJ and more John......
Originally Posted by bblover:
“He rarely talked about his personal stuff,the only person that got him talking about it a bit,was Jose.
Another good analyse there,Augusta!”
“He rarely talked about his personal stuff,the only person that got him talking about it a bit,was Jose.
Another good analyse there,Augusta!
”
So that is actually a huge skill Josie has, she is capable of seeing beneath the surface and drawing out peoples real feelings and thoughts...she did it for John, and Govan and Andrew.....
Originally Posted by MaryKate1:
“Hi All
What do you make of this.
Paul Mineo @TheMinZz
Someone help me find @uk_JohnJames_oz full bb intro on YouTube..?”
“Hi All
What do you make of this.
Paul Mineo @TheMinZz
Someone help me find @uk_JohnJames_oz full bb intro on YouTube..?”
interesting.......Id agree he is being lazy....but someone is bound to help him out.....
i dont think I liked his bb intro that much...it was edited as if he was very arrogant and didnt exactly show Johns sensitive side...
but then I have vague memories that Mario's was talking about his ex girfriends.and all the girls he fancied.......
Originally Posted by Khyra:
“John’s popularity within the house: I thought John was a popular housemate until about week 5 and then things changed, he went through a paranoid phase, he was constantly bickering with Ben, he had the fight with Corin when he and Nathan were packing their cases as they faced eviction, him and Josie had the crabeyes fight, then the Caoimhe / Josie thing happened and he was caught in the middle of that. He had rows with Iffy and Keeley to boot all through the parrot task. Then his massive spat with Sam Pepper. When I think of that fight and the ‘You can use all the other people but you won't use me’ Quote I kind of think that was his mind set and the anger towards Sam was the same level as the anger towards Josie over that e-mail she sent him asking his to tell his fans to leave her alone, and retweet the vote for Josie in the plus size model thing when she had been slating him in the magazines for weeks. I can see him ranting to his mates the exact same quote. When I think of all the arguments he was involved in during his time in the BB house I was quite surprised that he only picked up 16 nominations throughout the whole series. He did 10 weeks the same as Dave give or take the four extra days Dave did for surviving the four way eviction and making the final. John picked up his first nomination from Corin in week 3. In week 4 he faced the public vote he received 4 nominations, one from Corin, one form Nathan, one from Steve and one from Ben. I think by then he other housemates kind of had enough of the side of him that could explode at anytime and at anything.”
“John’s popularity within the house: I thought John was a popular housemate until about week 5 and then things changed, he went through a paranoid phase, he was constantly bickering with Ben, he had the fight with Corin when he and Nathan were packing their cases as they faced eviction, him and Josie had the crabeyes fight, then the Caoimhe / Josie thing happened and he was caught in the middle of that. He had rows with Iffy and Keeley to boot all through the parrot task. Then his massive spat with Sam Pepper. When I think of that fight and the ‘You can use all the other people but you won't use me’ Quote I kind of think that was his mind set and the anger towards Sam was the same level as the anger towards Josie over that e-mail she sent him asking his to tell his fans to leave her alone, and retweet the vote for Josie in the plus size model thing when she had been slating him in the magazines for weeks. I can see him ranting to his mates the exact same quote. When I think of all the arguments he was involved in during his time in the BB house I was quite surprised that he only picked up 16 nominations throughout the whole series. He did 10 weeks the same as Dave give or take the four extra days Dave did for surviving the four way eviction and making the final. John picked up his first nomination from Corin in week 3. In week 4 he faced the public vote he received 4 nominations, one from Corin, one form Nathan, one from Steve and one from Ben. I think by then he other housemates kind of had enough of the side of him that could explode at anytime and at anything.”
The noms pattern is worth replaying in detail.
8 HMs nommed John, 11 never nommed him. The 16 noms were:
Steve 4 - starting week 4
Corin 3 - starting week 3
Ben 3 - starting week 4
Rachel 2
Mario 1
Nathan 1
Keeley 1
Jo 1
Those who never nommed him were Josie (9), Dave (8), Keeva (5), Ife (5), Andrew (4), Shabby (3), Sunshine (3), Govan (2), JJ (2), Rachel (1), Sam (1)
Quote:
“Corin and Ben both nominated him three times, again Corin didn’t throw that bucket of gunk over his head, though to be fair to her she hadn’t nominated him for the previous three weeks.”
“Corin and Ben both nominated him three times, again Corin didn’t throw that bucket of gunk over his head, though to be fair to her she hadn’t nominated him for the previous three weeks.”
Yeah, it surprised me that Corin stopped nomming John after week 5, even though they weren't getting on that well. I guess it was a combination of realising he was popular with the crowd and perhaps out of loyalty to Josie. Thereafter, she went for the soft targets.
Quote:
“Not sure if the housemates where scared to face an eviction with John? Agree that they would have known how popular he was with the public especially after Andrew Stone and other outsiders let it be known he had quite a big fan base.”
“Not sure if the housemates where scared to face an eviction with John? Agree that they would have known how popular he was with the public especially after Andrew Stone and other outsiders let it be known he had quite a big fan base.”
It really was the leakiest BB I can recall up to that one, with so much info getting in from outside. I'm pretty sure that contributed to the JJJ romance gaining momentum during the show, even though John was adamant he didn't want to start anything in the house.
Quote:
“I guess if there was no save and replace the smart move from the other housemates once they knew that John and Josie were so popular would have been to have put John up for eviction against Josie. Now that would have been interesting.”
“I guess if there was no save and replace the smart move from the other housemates once they knew that John and Josie were so popular would have been to have put John up for eviction against Josie. Now that would have been interesting.”
Indeed, but only Mario really tried to play that game. I thought his week 8 noms were fascinating - questionable whether John and Josie were his 2 most disliked HMs in the house but he nommed both that week. And yet when he got the chance to S&R in that same week, he bottled it and went for Dave, someone he'd never nommed! And then again in week 9, S&R'ed himself with Sam. #spineless
Quote:
“I think BB can play a huge part in how the nominations go.
The housemate that would have taken Caoimhe’s place would have been John but BB decided to take Keeley’s nominations away from her due to her talking about nominations. [Another rule they apply when it suits them]”
“I think BB can play a huge part in how the nominations go.
The housemate that would have taken Caoimhe’s place would have been John but BB decided to take Keeley’s nominations away from her due to her talking about nominations. [Another rule they apply when it suits them]”
I recall the main forum were in uproar about BB protecting John!
Yet the tables turned right round in week 10. Just goes to show BB often do swing the table one way then the other for entertainment value to make their soap opera.
Originally Posted by muggins14:
“Good morning
Well he was up for eviction a four times, saved 3 by the public, and surely his relationship with Josie had a lot to do with that, plus his looks There were obviously many who felt that the JJJ relationship ruined BB11 for them, but also a lot of people who voted to keep John in to see that relationship develop - and I imagine there was a lot of block voting going on, plus Josie supporters voting for John. Had he not been duvet-diving with Josie I do wonder if he would have left sooner - if just-John supporters would have been enough to save him the first 3 times. It would have been an interesting scenario, as many have said before, if John and Josie had been up for nomination together; looking at it honestly (from how things were back then) I would say he would have been a goner.
What you say about John's home town, agree with absolutely. Although he'd travelled a bit, I think that was with his core group of friends and, as much as you see some of the world, it's not like living with such a mixed bunch of people - and certainly you don't bump into a Ben on every street corner (for which many of us are thankful )”
“Good morning
Well he was up for eviction a four times, saved 3 by the public, and surely his relationship with Josie had a lot to do with that, plus his looks
There were obviously many who felt that the JJJ relationship ruined BB11 for them, but also a lot of people who voted to keep John in to see that relationship develop - and I imagine there was a lot of block voting going on, plus Josie supporters voting for John. Had he not been duvet-diving with Josie I do wonder if he would have left sooner - if just-John supporters would have been enough to save him the first 3 times. It would have been an interesting scenario, as many have said before, if John and Josie had been up for nomination together; looking at it honestly (from how things were back then) I would say he would have been a goner.What you say about John's home town, agree with absolutely. Although he'd travelled a bit, I think that was with his core group of friends and, as much as you see some of the world, it's not like living with such a mixed bunch of people - and certainly you don't bump into a Ben on every street corner
(for which many of us are thankful )”
I thought there was a lot of curiousity and interest in John in the first few weeks......especially on places like DS.....
I didnt actually think Josie was that popular to start off with....she didnt seem to get that much time on the HL shows... and
she didnt perform that well in any of the tasks she did, ..which is why ive always been slightly dubious about the idea that she was the producers favouritelllllll
there was interest in her...as John and Nathan both started to show an interest in her....but.....without John to protect her....Josie would have suffered a great deal from comments from Dave and Ben, who were never that polite to her at the best of times.
Originally Posted by Lena J:
“OK, having lunch so feel less guilty for sitting here instead of doing the chores.
What is going on I wonder?
First we have The Minzz tweeting asking for a link to John's audition video for BB and now we have Jonno tweeting the following a few hours ago:
@uk_JohnJames_oz feed the pony
Wasn't 'feed the pony' one of John's last tweets around Christmas time which is a link to The Inbetweeners?
”
“OK, having lunch so feel less guilty for sitting here instead of doing the chores.
What is going on I wonder?
First we have The Minzz tweeting asking for a link to John's audition video for BB and now we have Jonno tweeting the following a few hours ago:
@uk_JohnJames_oz feed the pony
Wasn't 'feed the pony' one of John's last tweets around Christmas time which is a link to The Inbetweeners?
”
I think people are trying to play...
but why not......
Originally Posted by AlexBB3:
“The noms pattern is worth replaying in detail.
8 HMs nommed John, 11 never nommed him. The 16 noms were:
Steve 4 - starting week 4
Corin 3 - starting week 3
Ben 3 - starting week 4
Rachel 2
Mario 1
Nathan 1
Keeley 1
Jo 1
Those who never nommed him were Josie (9), Dave (8), Keeva (5), Ife (5), Andrew (4), Shabby (3), Sunshine (3), Govan (2), JJ (2), Rachel (1), Sam (1)
Yeah, it surprised me that Corin stopped nomming John after week 5, even though they weren't getting on that well. I guess it was a combination of realising he was popular with the crowd and perhaps out of loyalty to Josie. Thereafter, she went for the soft targets.
Indeed, but only Mario really tried to play that game. I thought his week 8 noms were fascinating - questionable whether John and Josie were his 2 most disliked HMs in the house but he nommed both that week. And yet when he got the chance to S&R in that same week, he bottled it and went for Dave, someone he'd never nommed! And then again in week 9, S&R'ed himself with Sam. #spineless
I recall the main forum were in uproar about BB protecting John! Yet the tables turned right round in week 10. Just goes to show BB often do swing the table one way then the other for entertainment value to make their soap opera. ”
“The noms pattern is worth replaying in detail.
8 HMs nommed John, 11 never nommed him. The 16 noms were:
Steve 4 - starting week 4
Corin 3 - starting week 3
Ben 3 - starting week 4
Rachel 2
Mario 1
Nathan 1
Keeley 1
Jo 1
Those who never nommed him were Josie (9), Dave (8), Keeva (5), Ife (5), Andrew (4), Shabby (3), Sunshine (3), Govan (2), JJ (2), Rachel (1), Sam (1)
Yeah, it surprised me that Corin stopped nomming John after week 5, even though they weren't getting on that well. I guess it was a combination of realising he was popular with the crowd and perhaps out of loyalty to Josie. Thereafter, she went for the soft targets.
Indeed, but only Mario really tried to play that game. I thought his week 8 noms were fascinating - questionable whether John and Josie were his 2 most disliked HMs in the house but he nommed both that week. And yet when he got the chance to S&R in that same week, he bottled it and went for Dave, someone he'd never nommed! And then again in week 9, S&R'ed himself with Sam. #spineless
I recall the main forum were in uproar about BB protecting John!
Yet the tables turned right round in week 10. Just goes to show BB often do swing the table one way then the other for entertainment value to make their soap opera. ”
What about Johns nominations.........who did he nominate each week and did I remember correctly that most of the people who he nominated were actually those who left that week......although I spose the save and replace task does kind of confuse the issue.....
interesting comments about Mario,
Originally Posted by muggins14:
“I agree that there were a lot of comparisons between John and Aaron - I thought so almost from the first day, and with how BB 'treated' them for want of a better word.
I do think Josie became BB's favourite and I do think Josie was the natural choice for the winner really - like it or not she was involved in much of what happened in the House, the big storyline; and if you had to choose between the two parties in the big storyline, the obvious choice would be Josie I would think. I don't think the reasons we like John are reasons that would have made him a BB winner.”
“I agree that there were a lot of comparisons between John and Aaron - I thought so almost from the first day, and with how BB 'treated' them for want of a better word.
I do think Josie became BB's favourite and I do think Josie was the natural choice for the winner really - like it or not she was involved in much of what happened in the House, the big storyline; and if you had to choose between the two parties in the big storyline, the obvious choice would be Josie I would think. I don't think the reasons we like John are reasons that would have made him a BB winner.”
I do think you're right to say 'became'. I rarely if ever subscribe to the 'chosen one' theories that some MFers revel in. But I do think by the end, they'd decided out of the remaining HMs whom they wanted to win.
They knew what the pro and anti-vote %ages of all the HMs were from the mid series polling. That indicated that, absent the special pass, both John and Josie would have been evicted in a 4-way vote to evict. So imo they planned accordingly. Btw, I don't subscribe to the commonly-held view that John was evicted in week 10 because BB did a hatchet job on him. Imo, he would have been evicted in any event, they just made sure!
If you're saying who was the natural choice to win, I'd say it depends whether you're looking at the series itself or you're looking at the post-series marketing aspects. If it's the former, then I'd say John would have been a worthy winner as imo his character added the most to the series. However, once you factor in the latter, then I have to agree with you, it's a no-brainer that Josie would fit the bill far better. This wasn't a typical BB, this was a struggling Endemol (weighed down with debt) and desperate to keep their franchise alive. Wouldn't be surprising if they were willing to nudge things in a particular direction to suit their commercial interests.
ps - Here's a 'conspiracy theory' for those who like to consider them: did they deliberately throw in something ridiculous like the '4-way vote to evict' to discredit 'vote to evict' and pave the way for C5 (their intended purchaser) to switch to 'vote to save' which helps the low brow soap opera style of new BB? More of a rhetorical question, than one capable of analysis!
Originally Posted by augusta92:
“
What about Johns nominations.........who did he nominate each week and did I remember correctly that most of the people who he nominated were actually those who left that week......although I spose the save and replace task does kind of confuse the issue.....
interesting comments about Mario,”
“
What about Johns nominations.........who did he nominate each week and did I remember correctly that most of the people who he nominated were actually those who left that week......although I spose the save and replace task does kind of confuse the issue.....
interesting comments about Mario,
”
John's noms
1 Rachael & Shabby
2 Keeva & Shabby
3 Ben & Dave
4 Keeva & Ben
5 Corin & Ife
6 Keeley & Corin
7 Ben & Andrew
8 Rachel & Mario
9 Corin & Mario
He got his wish in weeks 1, 5 (2nd choice), 7 and 8.
John nommed 11 out of the 19 HMs.
Corin 3 (out of 9 weeks)
Ben 3 (out of 7 weeks)
Shabby 2 (first 2 weeks)
Keeva 2
Mario 2 (last 2 weeks)
Andrew 1
Dave 1
Rachel 1
Keeley 1
Ife 1
Rachael 1
That's 7 male, 11 female votes.
Out of 18 votes, he voted 8 times for peeps who never nommed him.
I recall Dave in particular being 'disgusted' about that on their twitcam lol!
Wonder how John felt when he got out the house to find 4 unreturned noms from Steve!
(I guess rather like Dave with his 5 unreturned noms from Jose!) Another observation is that John's noms bear little correlation with Josie's noms, which suggests that whatever the duvet-diving consisted of, it wasn't noms talk!
BOOK GROUP
Just spoke to Lindy. She will let you have the dates we are going to discuss the books.
Please could everyone post the titles they'd like to read by Wednesday, 15 February. We can then have a day to decide which one we will read - PM me or post it on the thread and I will post the title we will read on Friday morning. It can be a travel book, poetry, children's book, modern fiction, biography, history, crime - linked to a TV program etc.
Titles so far are
Dark Fire (mystery) by C J Sansome
Call the Midwife
Snowdrops A L Miller
The Postmistress (WWII - sad)
Notes from a Small Island - Bill Bryson
A Thousand Splendid Suns - Hosseini
Any more please.
Thanks
Thousand Splendid Suns - Hosseini
The Help - Katherine Stockett
Originally Posted by AlexBB3:
“John's noms
1 Rachael & Shabby
2 Keeva & Shabby
3 Ben & Dave
4 Keeva & Ben
5 Corin & Ife
6 Keeley & Corin
7 Ben & Andrew
8 Rachel & Mario
9 Corin & Mario
He got his wish in weeks 1, 5 (2nd choice), 7 and 8.
John nommed 11 out of the 19 HMs.
Corin 3 (out of 9 weeks)
Ben 3 (out of 7 weeks)
Shabby 2 (first 2 weeks)
Keeva 2
Mario 2 (last 2 weeks)
Andrew 1
Dave 1
Rachel 1
Keeley 1
Ife 1
Rachael 1
That's 7 male, 11 female votes.
He voted 10 times for peeps who nommed him and 8 times for peeps who never nommed him. I recall Dave in particular being 'disgusted' about that on their twitcam lol!
One positive observation is that John's noms bear little correlation with Josie's noms, which suggests that whatever the duvet-diving consisted of, it wasn't noms talk!”
“John's noms
1 Rachael & Shabby
2 Keeva & Shabby
3 Ben & Dave
4 Keeva & Ben
5 Corin & Ife
6 Keeley & Corin
7 Ben & Andrew
8 Rachel & Mario
9 Corin & Mario
He got his wish in weeks 1, 5 (2nd choice), 7 and 8.
John nommed 11 out of the 19 HMs.
Corin 3 (out of 9 weeks)
Ben 3 (out of 7 weeks)
Shabby 2 (first 2 weeks)
Keeva 2
Mario 2 (last 2 weeks)
Andrew 1
Dave 1
Rachel 1
Keeley 1
Ife 1
Rachael 1
That's 7 male, 11 female votes.
He voted 10 times for peeps who nommed him and 8 times for peeps who never nommed him. I recall Dave in particular being 'disgusted' about that on their twitcam lol!
One positive observation is that John's noms bear little correlation with Josie's noms, which suggests that whatever the duvet-diving consisted of, it wasn't noms talk!
”
You really are a mine of information Alex. I remember how John and Josie's nominations were different much of the time..
Originally Posted by AlexBB3:
“John's noms
1 Rachael & Shabby
2 Keeva & Shabby
3 Ben & Dave
4 Keeva & Ben
5 Corin & Ife
6 Keeley & Corin
7 Ben & Andrew
8 Rachel & Mario
9 Corin & Mario
He got his wish in weeks 1, 5 (2nd choice), 7 and 8.
John nommed 11 out of the 19 HMs.
Corin 3 (out of 9 weeks)
Ben 3 (out of 7 weeks)
Shabby 2 (first 2 weeks)
Keeva 2
Mario 2 (last 2 weeks)
Andrew 1
Dave 1
Rachel 1
Keeley 1
Ife 1
Rachael 1
That's 7 male, 11 female votes.
Out of 18 votes, he voted 8 times for peeps who never nommed him.
I recall Dave in particular being 'disgusted' about that on their twitcam lol!
Wonder how John felt when he got out the house to find 4 unreturned noms from Steve! (I guess rather like Dave with his 5 unreturned noms from Jose!)
Another observation is that John's noms bear little correlation with Josie's noms, which suggests that whatever the duvet-diving consisted of, it wasn't noms talk!”
“John's noms
1 Rachael & Shabby
2 Keeva & Shabby
3 Ben & Dave
4 Keeva & Ben
5 Corin & Ife
6 Keeley & Corin
7 Ben & Andrew
8 Rachel & Mario
9 Corin & Mario
He got his wish in weeks 1, 5 (2nd choice), 7 and 8.
John nommed 11 out of the 19 HMs.
Corin 3 (out of 9 weeks)
Ben 3 (out of 7 weeks)
Shabby 2 (first 2 weeks)
Keeva 2
Mario 2 (last 2 weeks)
Andrew 1
Dave 1
Rachel 1
Keeley 1
Ife 1
Rachael 1
That's 7 male, 11 female votes.
Out of 18 votes, he voted 8 times for peeps who never nommed him.
I recall Dave in particular being 'disgusted' about that on their twitcam lol!
Wonder how John felt when he got out the house to find 4 unreturned noms from Steve!
(I guess rather like Dave with his 5 unreturned noms from Jose!) Another observation is that John's noms bear little correlation with Josie's noms, which suggests that whatever the duvet-diving consisted of, it wasn't noms talk!
”
so he chose the person who ended up being evicted....almost 50% of the time!!!
and wasnt one of those weeks where he nommed Dave, the one where Dave won his save and replace task and put someone else up.....
oh maybe not ...im getting all in a muddle with who was evicted when......
Originally Posted by nyannie:
“
Just spoke to Lindy. She will let you have the dates we are going to discuss the books.
Please could everyone post the titles they'd like to read by Wednesday, 15 February. We can then have a day to decide which one we will read - PM me or post it on the thread and I will post the title we will read on Friday morning. It can be a travel book, poetry, children's book, modern fiction, biography, history, crime - linked to a TV program etc.
Titles so far are
Dark Fire (mystery) by C J Sansome
Call the Midwife
Snowdrops A L Miller
The Postmistress (WWII - sad)
Notes from a Small Island - Bill Bryson
A Thousand Splendid Suns - Hosseini
Any more please.
Thanks
Thousand Splendid Suns - Hosseini
The Help - Katherine Stockett”
“
BOOK GROUP
Just spoke to Lindy. She will let you have the dates we are going to discuss the books.
Please could everyone post the titles they'd like to read by Wednesday, 15 February. We can then have a day to decide which one we will read - PM me or post it on the thread and I will post the title we will read on Friday morning. It can be a travel book, poetry, children's book, modern fiction, biography, history, crime - linked to a TV program etc.
Titles so far are
Dark Fire (mystery) by C J Sansome
Call the Midwife
Snowdrops A L Miller
The Postmistress (WWII - sad)
Notes from a Small Island - Bill Bryson
A Thousand Splendid Suns - Hosseini
Any more please.
Thanks
Thousand Splendid Suns - Hosseini
The Help - Katherine Stockett”
these sound great, I dont want to add any more to the list...lets choose one of these to start everything off....
BOOK DISCUSSIONS
Hi all
First of all many thanks to everyone for your posts and PM's about books - there certainly seems to be a lot of interest on here!
As nyannie says above, we have talked about it, and taking into account everyon's contributions, have come up with the following:
1 Discussions to be on this thread approx every 5th week (depending on bank holidays etc)
2 Discussions to be on Wednesdays and be open for approx 24 hours.
3 First 'meeting' will be on Wednesday 28th March (giving us 5 - 6 weeks to get and read the first book)
4 Nyannie will announce the first book this week - please post suggestions on thread or to nyannie by PM. She will organise the first discussion on 28th March and will also run the second session.
5 There was general agreement that we should have a 'rotating' co-ordinator, but most people didn't want to go first - so on behalf of everyone I'd like to thank nyannie for getting us started
I think that's it - hopefully this will run quite informally - we can review it after a couple of books. And no-one has to read anything if they don't want to - we remain after all the JJAT
Thanks again everyone
Lindy xx
Originally Posted by nyannie:
“
Just spoke to Lindy. She will let you have the dates we are going to discuss the books.
Please could everyone post the titles they'd like to read by Wednesday, 15 February. We can then have a day to decide which one we will read - PM me or post it on the thread and I will post the title we will read on Friday morning. It can be a travel book, poetry, children's book, modern fiction, biography, history, crime - linked to a TV program etc.
Titles so far are
Dark Fire (mystery) by C J Sansome
Call the Midwife
Snowdrops A L Miller
The Postmistress (WWII - sad)
Notes from a Small Island - Bill Bryson
A Thousand Splendid Suns - Hosseini
Any more please.
Thanks
Thousand Splendid Suns - Hosseini
The Help - Katherine Stockett”
“
BOOK GROUP
Just spoke to Lindy. She will let you have the dates we are going to discuss the books.
Please could everyone post the titles they'd like to read by Wednesday, 15 February. We can then have a day to decide which one we will read - PM me or post it on the thread and I will post the title we will read on Friday morning. It can be a travel book, poetry, children's book, modern fiction, biography, history, crime - linked to a TV program etc.
Titles so far are
Dark Fire (mystery) by C J Sansome
Call the Midwife
Snowdrops A L Miller
The Postmistress (WWII - sad)
Notes from a Small Island - Bill Bryson
A Thousand Splendid Suns - Hosseini
Any more please.
Thanks
Thousand Splendid Suns - Hosseini
The Help - Katherine Stockett”
I have just started reading The Photograph by Penelope Lively who is a very very fine writer.
Can I say that in our book group we used to offer a choice of 2 or 3 in the early years but very often people would choose one that the person making the choice wasn't so keen on, so we just said, right whoever's turn to choose it is just says 'this is the book we're going to read. That's one way of doing it. Another way would be to take on board all the choices being offered and say, right we're doing them in this order on these dates, and then in people want to read ahead they can. Whoever suggests can take the lead or we can all just muck in with our comments on the designated days.
Just some suggestions. All book groups do it differently
Originally Posted by AlexBB3:
“John's noms
1 Rachael & Shabby
2 Keeva & Shabby
3 Ben & Dave
4 Keeva & Ben
5 Corin & Ife
6 Keeley & Corin
7 Ben & Andrew
8 Rachel & Mario
9 Corin & Mario
He got his wish in weeks 1, 5 (2nd choice), 7 and 8.
John nommed 11 out of the 19 HMs.
Corin 3 (out of 9 weeks)
Ben 3 (out of 7 weeks)
Shabby 2 (first 2 weeks)
Keeva 2
Mario 2 (last 2 weeks)
Andrew 1
Dave 1
Rachel 1
Keeley 1
Ife 1
Rachael 1
That's 7 male, 11 female votes.
Out of 18 votes, he voted 8 times for peeps who never nommed him.
I recall Dave in particular being 'disgusted' about that on their twitcam lol!
Wonder how John felt when he got out the house to find 4 unreturned noms from Steve! (I guess rather like Dave with his 5 unreturned noms from Jose!)
Another observation is that John's noms bear little correlation with Josie's noms, which suggests that whatever the duvet-diving consisted of, it wasn't noms talk!”
“John's noms
1 Rachael & Shabby
2 Keeva & Shabby
3 Ben & Dave
4 Keeva & Ben
5 Corin & Ife
6 Keeley & Corin
7 Ben & Andrew
8 Rachel & Mario
9 Corin & Mario
He got his wish in weeks 1, 5 (2nd choice), 7 and 8.
John nommed 11 out of the 19 HMs.
Corin 3 (out of 9 weeks)
Ben 3 (out of 7 weeks)
Shabby 2 (first 2 weeks)
Keeva 2
Mario 2 (last 2 weeks)
Andrew 1
Dave 1
Rachel 1
Keeley 1
Ife 1
Rachael 1
That's 7 male, 11 female votes.
Out of 18 votes, he voted 8 times for peeps who never nommed him.
I recall Dave in particular being 'disgusted' about that on their twitcam lol!
Wonder how John felt when he got out the house to find 4 unreturned noms from Steve!
(I guess rather like Dave with his 5 unreturned noms from Jose!) Another observation is that John's noms bear little correlation with Josie's noms, which suggests that whatever the duvet-diving consisted of, it wasn't noms talk!
”
Interesting that John nominated Keeva twice, and yet did his darndest to save her in the end.
BIB - she was only picking his nose
No smut in here please, I'm only innocent 
Originally Posted by Lindy_Loue:
“
Hi all
First of all many thanks to everyone for your posts and PM's about books - there certainly seems to be a lot of interest on here!
As nyannie says above, we have talked about it, and taking into account everyon's contributions, have come up with the following:
1 Discussions to be on this thread approx every 5th week (depending on bank holidays etc)
2 Discussions to be on Wednesdays and be open for approx 24 hours.
3 First 'meeting' will be on Wednesday 28th March (giving us 5 - 6 weeks to get and read the first book)
4 Nyannie will announce the first book this week - please post suggestions on thread or to nyannie by PM. She will organise the first discussion on 28th March and will also run the second session.
5 There was general agreement that we should have a 'rotating' co-ordinator, but most people didn't want to go first - so on behalf of everyone I'd like to thank nyannie for getting us started
I think that's it - hopefully this will run quite informally - we can review it after a couple of books. And no-one has to read anything if they don't want to - we remain after all the JJAT
Thanks again everyone
Lindy xx”
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BOOK DISCUSSIONS
Hi all
First of all many thanks to everyone for your posts and PM's about books - there certainly seems to be a lot of interest on here!
As nyannie says above, we have talked about it, and taking into account everyon's contributions, have come up with the following:
1 Discussions to be on this thread approx every 5th week (depending on bank holidays etc)
2 Discussions to be on Wednesdays and be open for approx 24 hours.
3 First 'meeting' will be on Wednesday 28th March (giving us 5 - 6 weeks to get and read the first book)
4 Nyannie will announce the first book this week - please post suggestions on thread or to nyannie by PM. She will organise the first discussion on 28th March and will also run the second session.
5 There was general agreement that we should have a 'rotating' co-ordinator, but most people didn't want to go first - so on behalf of everyone I'd like to thank nyannie for getting us started
I think that's it - hopefully this will run quite informally - we can review it after a couple of books. And no-one has to read anything if they don't want to - we remain after all the JJAT
Thanks again everyone
Lindy xx”
All very organised there
Should I take the minutes?
Originally Posted by muggins14;56540199[B:
“]Interesting that John nominated Keeva twice, and yet did his darndest to save her in the end.
[/b]
BIB - she was only picking his nose No smut in here please, I'm only innocent ”
“]Interesting that John nominated Keeva twice, and yet did his darndest to save her in the end.
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BIB - she was only picking his nose
No smut in here please, I'm only innocent ”
NO he didnt!!!
He was the one who suggested that if she was that worried about her boyfriend and how she was being percieved in the house.....then she should just leave.....
I think he felt responsible and guilty when she did actually leave....but.....he had encouraged her to do so !!!
and I thought the save and replace task on the bucking broncho ...was less about caring about keeva...and more about not wanting BB to control what he did.....
Originally Posted by muggins14:
“All very organised there Should I take the minutes? ”
“All very organised there
Should I take the minutes? ”
pmsl
A 'coffee all over the laptop' post
Originally Posted by kfb:
“I have just started reading The Photograph by Penelope Lively who is a very very fine writer.
Can I say that in our book group we used to offer a choice of 2 or 3 in the early years but very often people would choose one that the person making the choice wasn't so keen on, so we just said, right whoever's turn to choose it is just says 'this is the book we're going to read. That's one way of doing it. Another way would be to take on board all the choices being offered and say, right we're doing them in this order on these dates, and then in people want to read ahead they can. Whoever suggests can take the lead or we can all just muck in with our comments on the designated days.
Just some suggestions. All book groups do it differently”
“I have just started reading The Photograph by Penelope Lively who is a very very fine writer.
Can I say that in our book group we used to offer a choice of 2 or 3 in the early years but very often people would choose one that the person making the choice wasn't so keen on, so we just said, right whoever's turn to choose it is just says 'this is the book we're going to read. That's one way of doing it. Another way would be to take on board all the choices being offered and say, right we're doing them in this order on these dates, and then in people want to read ahead they can. Whoever suggests can take the lead or we can all just muck in with our comments on the designated days.
Just some suggestions. All book groups do it differently
”
Hi Kay
This had occurred to me, too. If we did this, there'd be no need to re-invent the wheel every time
And no-one need worry about having to choose a book in future......
We have such good suggestions already, it seems a pity not to just work our way through several.
Originally Posted by Lindy_Loue:
“Hi Kay
This had occurred to me, too. If we did this, there'd be no need to re-invent the wheel every time
And no-one need worry about having to choose a book in future......”
“Hi Kay
This had occurred to me, too. If we did this, there'd be no need to re-invent the wheel every time
And no-one need worry about having to choose a book in future......
”
I love all these book club discussions.....however surely we need a bit of both.....a list of suggestions....that can be updated or amended as we come across new things.....
and I lked the comment somewhere about trying to keep the books fairly accessible....and not too expensive.....
Originally Posted by bblover:
“Wow....interesting posts to read,and i read them all,even though some of them were looooong
When i saw John's audition tape,i thought this was another wannabe,dull pretty boy!Shabbs was the only one i liked a bit lol
I thought him and Rachael were going to be another Chris&SofieBut to my surprise,he couldn't stand her,poor girl,i felt sorry for her,John was imo totally our of order,with the way he behaved towards her,and talked behind her back....especially to Gov&Jose!That situation got me interested in him tbh,i got his point,but didn't agree with the way he dealt with it.
That was John's Achilles heels throughout his time in the house,took him time to get his point across,without getting "angry",he had short fuse,but he could be so patient and calm at other times too....
I don't think housemates feared him,but knew he had a pretty good fanbase....
I liked his weird relationship with Sunshine!Also,enjoyed Doomy&GloomyAlso Dave,was the only one that could listen to his rantings,without trying to change the subject lol....He also gave him some good advice,loved their relation,especially when Ben got evicted
John often said what most of them were thinking,but couldn't voice them,nominations,and house harmony might've been the reason
He could be brutally honest at times,and when you're in an environment like that,subtlety can come in handy.
He could've easily made it to the final,but he was too controversial,and was rebellious against BB.He was a great housemate,and i'm not being biased.”
“Wow....interesting posts to read,and i read them all,even though some of them were looooong
When i saw John's audition tape,i thought this was another wannabe,dull pretty boy!
Shabbs was the only one i liked a bit lolI thought him and Rachael were going to be another Chris&Sofie
But to my surprise,he couldn't stand her,poor girl,i felt sorry for her,John was imo totally our of order,with the way he behaved towards her,and talked behind her back....especially to Gov&Jose!That situation got me interested in him tbh,i got his point,but didn't agree with the way he dealt with it.That was John's Achilles heels throughout his time in the house,took him time to get his point across,without getting "angry",he had short fuse,but he could be so patient and calm at other times too....
I don't think housemates feared him,but knew he had a pretty good fanbase....
I liked his weird relationship with Sunshine!
Also,enjoyed Doomy&GloomyAlso Dave,was the only one that could listen to his rantings,without trying to change the subject lol....He also gave him some good advice,loved their relation,especially when Ben got evictedJohn often said what most of them were thinking,but couldn't voice them,nominations,and house harmony might've been the reason
He could be brutally honest at times,and when you're in an environment like that,subtlety can come in handy.
He could've easily made it to the final,but he was too controversial,and was rebellious against BB.
He was a great housemate,and i'm not being biased.”
[quote=MaryKate1;56528449]Hi All
What do you make of this.
Paul Mineo @TheMinZz
Someone help me find @uk_JohnJames_oz full bb intro on YouTube..?[/QUOTE]
BBlover are you famous....you mention Johns audition video and now Paul wants to find it......
HI to everyone who might be visiting
Originally Posted by augusta92:
“NO he didnt!!!
He was the one who suggested that if she was that worried about her boyfriend and how she was being percieved in the house.....then she should just leave.....
I think he felt responsible and guilty when she did actually leave....but.....he had encouraged her to do so !!!
and I thought the save and replace task on the bucking broncho ...was less about caring about keeva...and more about not wanting BB to control what he did.....”
“NO he didnt!!!
He was the one who suggested that if she was that worried about her boyfriend and how she was being percieved in the house.....then she should just leave.....
I think he felt responsible and guilty when she did actually leave....but.....he had encouraged her to do so !!!
and I thought the save and replace task on the bucking broncho ...was less about caring about keeva...and more about not wanting BB to control what he did.....”
I honestly felt he encouraged her to leave because it was the best thing for her, not from a selfish point of view. He was determined to lose the save and replace task to enable her to swap her name, if I remember correctly... just noticed you said that. Looking back I honestly think he wanted her to be saved for the right reasons, but that's just my opinion, obviously
Of course, there could have been some 'having control over BB' issues too, he got a two-for-one there
Originally Posted by augusta92:
“I love all these book club discussions.....however surely we need a bit of both.....a list of suggestions....that can be updated or amended as we come across new things.....
and I lked the comment somewhere about trying to keep the books fairly accessible....and not too expensive.....”
“I love all these book club discussions.....however surely we need a bit of both.....a list of suggestions....that can be updated or amended as we come across new things.....
and I lked the comment somewhere about trying to keep the books fairly accessible....and not too expensive.....”
You're right, of course we want to follow our interests as we go along - but from my point of view, I'll keep the current list in mind........
Again I feel a bit over-organised......my husband says I am 'project driven' - I never knew that about myself until I finished work and lots of the projects disappeared !
Originally Posted by Lena J:
“OK, having lunch so feel less guilty for sitting here instead of doing the chores.
What is going on I wonder?
First we have The Minzz tweeting asking for a link to John's audition video for BB and now we have Jonno tweeting the following a few hours ago:
@uk_JohnJames_oz feed the pony
Wasn't 'feed the pony' one of John's last tweets around Christmas time which is a link to The Inbetweeners?”
“OK, having lunch so feel less guilty for sitting here instead of doing the chores.
What is going on I wonder?
First we have The Minzz tweeting asking for a link to John's audition video for BB and now we have Jonno tweeting the following a few hours ago:
@uk_JohnJames_oz feed the pony
Wasn't 'feed the pony' one of John's last tweets around Christmas time which is a link to The Inbetweeners?
”
The minzz has obviously been reading bblovers posts...
and does anyone else think that the idea of feeding the pony relates to teasing and baiting someone......??
someone who has a vague connection to something equestrian??
Its not a nice idea...or one that I would like to encourage....but it seems fairly obvious that is the message....or is that just me??
I know there is a link to the inbetweeners.....but John mentions sit down specs...which is more a comment that the geeky guy who actually goes and starts the conversation, is the one who gets the girl......
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