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Old 24-12-2011, 11:34
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Zainab is the one responsible for bringing the monster Yusuf into the midst and putting her family in harm's way. Yusuf may only have had a plan to bring them all back to Pakistan but Jane is the one responsible for changing that plan and putting the matches in Yusuf's hands. Jane seems to be becoming a loose-tongued alchoholic and blabs to Yusuf that Masood and Zainab kissed enflaming the flames. I can just imagine her slurring her words in a most unattractive and unfemimine way, what on earth does Masood see in her anyway.
PS Blabbing seems to be a Clark trait.
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Old 24-12-2011, 11:44
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she gets drunk again? lol!
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Old 24-12-2011, 12:23
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Zainab is the one responsible for bringing the monster Yusuf into the midst and putting her family in harm's way. Yusuf may only have had a plan to bring them all back to Pakistan but Jane is the one responsible for changing that plan and putting the matches in Yusuf's hands. Jane seems to be becoming a loose-tongued alchoholic and blabs to Yusuf that Masood and Zainab kissed enflaming the flames. I can just imagine her slurring her words in a most unattractive and unfemimine way, what on earth does Masood see in her anyway.
PS Blabbing seems to be a Clark trait.
lol think someone else has been at the sherry
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Old 24-12-2011, 12:28
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I suppose guilt about this will be Janes exit storyline into the black taxi signal?
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Old 24-12-2011, 12:31
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Zainab is the one responsible for bringing the monster Yusuf into the midst and putting her family in harm's way. Yusuf may only have had a plan to bring them all back to Pakistan but Jane is the one responsible for changing that plan and putting the matches in Yusuf's hands. Jane seems to be becoming a loose-tongued alchoholic and blabs to Yusuf that Masood and Zainab kissed enflaming the flames. I can just imagine her slurring her words in a most unattractive and unfemimine way, what on earth does Masood see in her anyway.
PS Blabbing seems to be a Clark trait.
I'm not Jane's biggest fan but the only person responsible for any of this is Yusef himself. You could just as easily argue it's Amira's fault as she was the one who persuaded Zainab to forgive Yusef for the DNA test and let him back into her life:sleep:

Anyway, hope you enjoy tonight's episode I'm sure you can't wait to see Christian again
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Old 24-12-2011, 12:37
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I'm not Jane's biggest fan but the only person responsible for any of this is Yusef himself. You could just as easily argue it's Amira's fault as she was the one who persuaded Zainab to forgive Yusef for the DNA test and let him back into her life:sleep:

Anyway, hope you enjoy tonight's episode I'm sure you can't wait to see Christian again:p
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Old 24-12-2011, 12:45
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The only one to blame for what is happening to Zainab is Yusef. The abuser not the victim is to blame.

As for Jane I agree with you. She is also to blame for throwing herself at Masood when she was tired of Ian. Masood was weak for considering her offer but she persued him even knowing he had a wife and family. Dreadful woman.
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Old 24-12-2011, 12:45
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Pleased to see you are so well informed It never ceases to amaze me why you spend so much time finding out about a charachture you confess to hate

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Old 24-12-2011, 12:48
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We're not sure how long he's back for before he leaves again while Johnny's in panto but he'll be back again after that You're not getting rid of him that easily mwahahahaha
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Old 24-12-2011, 12:49
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The only one to blame for what is happening to Zainab is Yusef. The abuser not the victim is to blame.

As for Jane I agree with you. She is also to blame for throwing herself at Masood when she was tired of Ian. Masood was weak for considering her offer but she persued him even knowing he had a wife and family. Dreadful woman.
Agree with every word.
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Old 24-12-2011, 13:02
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Pleased to see you are so well informed It never ceases to amaze me why you spend so much time finding out about a charachture you confess to hate
I never confessed to hating Christian. I dislike him intensely, and no not because he is gay because I never posted against him until he took up with Syed. And I don't seek out information about him, I just come across it reading other posts.
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Old 24-12-2011, 13:10
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Catsmeow You and I have to accept that Christian isn't going anywhere unfortunately. John Partridge didn't make a secret of the fact that before EE he was struggling to find work. So he'd be stupid to quit a good paid job. Christian is EE answer to Corrie's Sean Tully, the token gay character. The producers will never axe him even though he's a boring character with almost no ties to the square. So be prepared to watch Christian strutting around the square in his ridiculous vests till he's 70.
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Old 24-12-2011, 13:30
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Catsmeow You and I have to accept that Christian isn't going anywhere unfortunately. John Partridge didn't make a secret of the fact that before EE he was struggling to find work. So he'd be stupid to quit a good paid job. Christian is EE answer to Corrie's Sean Tully, the token gay character. The producers will never axe him even though he's a boring character with almost no ties to the square. So be prepared to watch Christian strutting around the square in his ridiculous vests till he's 70.

Unfortunately you are so right, Miss Lola. And he will probably be a more sad sight because Syed will have long left him and he will be on his own, apart from his one night stands.
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Old 25-12-2011, 00:02
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Unfortunately you are so right, Miss Lola. And he will probably be a more sad sight because Syed will have long left him and he will be on his own, apart from his one night stands.
Do you think so? I think Syed and Christian will get back together.
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Old 25-12-2011, 01:28
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Yusef is the only one to blame for his own actions. Even if Jane is in part the cause, it can't really be her fault if she didn't know everything that was happening and Yusef would have found out about Masood and Zainab at some point in some way and probably would react in about the same way then too.
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Old 25-12-2011, 01:29
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Catsmeow You and I have to accept that Christian isn't going anywhere unfortunately. John Partridge didn't make a secret of the fact that before EE he was struggling to find work. So he'd be stupid to quit a good paid job. Christian is EE answer to Corrie's Sean Tully, the token gay character. The producers will never axe him even though he's a boring character with almost no ties to the square. So be prepared to watch Christian strutting around the square in his ridiculous vests till he's 70.
There are three gay character, how can one of them be a 'token gay character'? If it was only about gayness, they could easily get another gay character if Christian left, if they wanted to keep having three gay characters still.
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Old 25-12-2011, 01:57
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There are three gay character, how can one of them be a 'token gay character'? If it was only about gayness, they could easily get another gay character if Christian left, if they wanted to keep having three gay characters still.
Christian's is defined by his sexuality. Being gay is all christian is about. His storylines usually consist of a closet case moving in Albert square and Christian outing him or be involved in his coming out Stephen, Syed, Ben. Also Christian needs to be hit once a year by someone spewing homophobic insults. He doesn't have male friends but he has a faghag.

Syed is such a spineless wimp, he's not worth mentioning

Ben could be a good characters. He's gay but it doesn't seem to entirely define him. He's related to some of the main characters and has complicated love-hate relationship with his father. He's also a shit-stirrer, impredictable, morally challenged. Ben has the potential to be an interesting soap character.
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Old 25-12-2011, 06:45
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Zainab is the one responsible for bringing the monster Yusuf into the midst and putting her family in harm's way. Yusuf may only have had a plan to bring them all back to Pakistan but Jane is the one responsible for changing that plan and putting the matches in Yusuf's hands. Jane seems to be becoming a loose-tongued alchoholic and blabs to Yusuf that Masood and Zainab kissed enflaming the flames. I can just imagine her slurring her words in a most unattractive and unfemimine way, what on earth does Masood see in her anyway.
PS Blabbing seems to be a Clark trait.
I wouldn't say Zainab is entirely responsible for bringing Yusef back into the Masood's life - that was mostly down to the plot contrivance of Tamwar falling for his daughter and the fact that the family were already starting to break apart from when M and Z wouldn't except that Syed was gay.

Jane was naive to assume that Masood would move on from Zainab that quickly but they have been friends for almost 3 years, so it's not as if they don't have something solid to base a relationship on. But of course M and Z have solid chemistry for a couple on EE and it was only a matter of time before thy were back together. Of course Jane is partly to blame but it's very probable that Yusef may have killed Zainab in the end anyway.
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Old 25-12-2011, 07:31
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How can Jane be to blame? She doesn't know what Yusef is like and she was hurt that her noyfriend kissed his ex (even though they are supposed to beon a break). She also knows Zainab is supposed to be married now. All she saw was a married woman cheating on her husband with the guy she liked and was dating. Of course she told Yusef though luckily Yusef didn't hurt Zainab this time.
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Old 25-12-2011, 07:32
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I wouldn't say Zainab is entirely responsible for bringing Yusef back into the Masood's life - that was mostly down to the plot contrivance of Tamwar falling for his daughter and the fact that the family were already starting to break apart from when M and Z wouldn't except that Syed was gay.

Jane was naive to assume that Masood would move on from Zainab that quickly but they have been friends for almost 3 years, so it's not as if they don't have something solid to base a relationship on. But of course M and Z have solid chemistry for a couple on EE and it was only a matter of time before thy were back together. Of course Jane is partly to blame but it's very probable that Yusef may have killed Zainab in the end anyway.
I've never thought they had chemistry but different strokes for different folks as they say.
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Old 25-12-2011, 07:46
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Is Jane leaving already? :yawn:
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Old 25-12-2011, 09:10
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Clearly (in the pretend world where we pretend the people we're talking about are something more than a scriptwriter's whimsy) Yusef is to blame for Yusef. The script is so poorly written (great concept, ridiculously long time-frame means all sorts of filler and guff being inserted) that they had to find some way of precipitating the final (hurrah) Gotterdammerung.

I do not support adultery, regardless of gender combination, therefore I hate Jane and Masood's relationship but to put the blame entirely or mostly on Jane (post #7) is very distasteful - both are equally at fault. Unless one is to believe that no married man is able to maintain his vows in the face of temptation? I choose not to believe that p.o.v.

OP: I know you are happy with your faith and lifestyle but your criticism of others who do not subscribe to it is often venomous. I find your post here very chilling but perhaps I'm reading too much into it, and you don't mean it to sound like bile towards those of another faith or race.

As to Christian: while I don't care a jot whether he's gay, straight or would just prefer a nice cup of tea, I rather enjoyed seeing him last night just being (most of the time) someone's brother. I don't like the relationship with Syed because they both broke up a marriage to get it, and because Christian becomes domineering and bullying as soon as Syed or his family come near but mostly because he moons over him like a lovesick schoolboy, ew. Christian away from Syed I rather like!
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Old 25-12-2011, 09:23
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Clearly (in the pretend world where we pretend the people we're talking about are something more than a scriptwriter's whimsy) Yusef is to blame for Yusef. The script is so poorly written (great concept, ridiculously long time-frame means all sorts of filler and guff being inserted) that they had to find some way of precipitating the final (hurrah) Gotterdammerung.

I do not support adultery, regardless of gender combination, therefore I hate Jane and Masood's relationship but to put the blame entirely or mostly on Jane (post #7) is very distasteful - both are equally at fault. Unless one is to believe that no married man is able to maintain his vows in the face of temptation? I choose not to believe that p.o.v.

OP: I know you are happy with your faith and lifestyle but your criticism of others who do not subscribe to it is often venomous. I find your post here very chilling but perhaps I'm reading too much into it, and you don't mean it to sound like bile towards those of another faith or race.

As to Christian: while I don't care a jot whether he's gay, straight or would just prefer a nice cup of tea, I rather enjoyed seeing him last night just being (most of the time) someone's brother. I don't like the relationship with Syed because they both broke up a marriage to get it, and because Christian becomes domineering and bullying as soon as Syed or his family come near but mostly because he moons over him like a lovesick schoolboy, ew. Christian away from Syed I rather like!

I couldn't agree more, but probably couldn't have said it so well. It did cross my mind that the OP's problem is that Jane is neither the right race nor religion.
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Old 25-12-2011, 09:56
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Clearly (in the pretend world where we pretend the people we're talking about are something more than a scriptwriter's whimsy) Yusef is to blame for Yusef. The script is so poorly written (great concept, ridiculously long time-frame means all sorts of filler and guff being inserted) that they had to find some way of precipitating the final (hurrah) Gotterdammerung.

I do not support adultery, regardless of gender combination, therefore I hate Jane and Masood's relationship but to put the blame entirely or mostly on Jane (post #7) is very distasteful - both are equally at fault. Unless one is to believe that no married man is able to maintain his vows in the face of temptation? I choose not to believe that p.o.v.

OP: I know you are happy with your faith and lifestyle but your criticism of others who do not subscribe to it is often venomous. I find your post here very chilling but perhaps I'm reading too much into it, and you don't mean it to sound like bile towards those of another faith or race.

As to Christian: while I don't care a jot whether he's gay, straight or would just prefer a nice cup of tea, I rather enjoyed seeing him last night just being (most of the time) someone's brother. I don't like the relationship with Syed because they both broke up a marriage to get it, and because Christian becomes domineering and bullying as soon as Syed or his family come near but mostly because he moons over him like a lovesick schoolboy, ew. Christian away from Syed I rather like!
To be fair, they started their relationship before Syed and Amira were even engaged, it was entirely down to Syed's family and faith that Syed went through with a sham wedding in the first place. Syed was looking for a 'get out' from Zainab on the day of his actual wedding but she told him to go through with it and he wasn't strong enough to turn his back on her. But as for their current situation, Syed could never love Amira the way she deserves to be (I use the term 'deserves' loosely at the moment) so as long as she finds happiness again elsewhere, the split was the best thing for all concerned.

I agree that Christian is more domineering than Syed and unless the two of them really talk about their problems and their insecurities, they shouldn't be getting back together. The physical chemistry is there but their constant arguements was getting beyond a joke by the time Christian walked off again, When they do get back together, the writers need to give them storylines independant from each other - so that C's humour comes through again and so that Syed can grow as a character in his own right.
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Old 25-12-2011, 10:58
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Zainab is the one responsible for bringing the monster Yusuf into the midst and putting her family in harm's way. Yusuf may only have had a plan to bring them all back to Pakistan but Jane is the one responsible for changing that plan and putting the matches in Yusuf's hands. Jane seems to be becoming a loose-tongued alchoholic and blabs to Yusuf that Masood and Zainab kissed enflaming the flames. I can just imagine her slurring her words in a most unattractive and unfemimine way, what on earth does Masood see in her anyway.
PS Blabbing seems to be a Clark trait.
I believe it'll be Yusef who handles the match, no one else.

And I think I've developed a game with your threads now - spot the Christian dig
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