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Can you please shut up with the gay innuendo stuff!
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ESPIONdansant
27-12-2011
The Christmas Special just about did it for me.

The 'real fairy' comment and Bruno's mince pies. 'Bruno knows a lot about mincing'. And more Russell Grant than is feasibly allowed by European law.

I don't mind the odd nudge-nudge but it's all so terribly tedious now.

BBC, please, everyone else knows it's nearly 2012. We've had civil partnerships for 6 years and gay luvvies have been showbiz backbone for....probably for ever. It's not big or clever to harp on about it. Do shut up.
cezzy
27-12-2011
It felt a bit like old episode of Are You Being Served! Of course we have no way of knowing if Bruno and/or Russell were offended by the comments? If so it makes what was said appalling, but right now it's just a bit of tedium that really belongs in the past.
lundavra
27-12-2011
Perhaps allowances should be made for the two of them having seemed to have made a career on the basis of homosexuality and exaggerate their campness.
sofakat
27-12-2011
Originally Posted by ESPIONdansant:
“The Christmas Special just about did it for me.

The 'real fairy' comment and Bruno's mince pies. 'Bruno knows a lot about mincing'. And more Russell Grant than is feasibly allowed by European law.

I don't mind the odd nudge-nudge but it's all so terribly tedious now.

BBC, please, everyone else knows it's nearly 2012. We've had civil partnerships for 6 years and gay luvvies have been showbiz backbone for....probably for ever. It's not big or clever to harp on about it. Do shut up.”

SCD seems stuck in the dark ages of very bad British comedy circa 1970. I also hate the pathetic homophobic jokes and innuendo. If you're not comfortable with something let's just poke fun at it? Typical anal British reaction to something you secretly don't approve of. Not funny and not clever. They really need to move on. Totally agree with you Espion.

The 'Christmas Show' was irredeemably naff. I watched it on fast forward. In fact the only gorgeous thing on it was Simon from Blue. The rest was utter tat!
sofakat
27-12-2011
Originally Posted by lundavra:
“Perhaps allowances should be made for the two of them having seemed to have made a career on the basis of homosexuality and exaggerate their campness.”

Erm...I think their careers are based on a little more than that : That's a rather unfair comment to make.
Snakehips99
27-12-2011
Originally Posted by sofakat:
“SCD seems stuck in the dark ages of very bad British comedy circa 1970. I also hate the pathetic homophobic jokes and innuendo. If you're not comfortable with something let's just poke fun at it? Typical anal British reaction to something you secretly don't approve of. Not funny and not clever. They really need to move on. Totally agree with you Espion.

The 'Christmas Show' was irredeemably naff. I watched it on fast forward. In fact the only gorgeous thing on it was Simon from Blue. The rest was utter tat! ”

Unfortunate use of the word "anal".
lundavra
27-12-2011
Originally Posted by sofakat:
“Erm...I think their careers are based on a little more than that : That's a rather unfair comment to make.”

Bruno has done a range of things but his present fame is because of his appearances on Strictly Come Dancing. I don't think he would be as well known or successful if he just gave a simple comment on each dance and a mark without any messing about.

I am not sure what talent Russell Grant is supposed to have.
dancingbearbear
27-12-2011
Russell Grant is gay??!! This was most certainly not his only apparent personality trait throughout the entire show.

In total agreement with the OP; the 'GAYLOLZ' this series were tedious in the extreme, not to mention incredibly archaic.
mklass
27-12-2011
Originally Posted by sofakat:
“SCD seems stuck in the dark ages of very bad British comedy circa 1970. I also hate the pathetic homophobic jokes and innuendo. If you're not comfortable with something let's just poke fun at it? Typical anal British reaction to something you secretly don't approve of. Not funny and not clever. They really need to move on. Totally agree with you Espion.

The 'Christmas Show' was irredeemably naff. I watched it on fast forward. In fact the only gorgeous thing on it was Simon from Blue. The rest was utter tat! ”

I cringed at the remark Brucie made to Bruno, completely uncalled for and un-neccessary..... but i think he is the one that writes the scripts and jokes isn't he?, so i dont think things will change anytime soon!... it certainly does seem like his sence of 1970 'humour'......
soulmate61
27-12-2011
I suspect ultimately all this comes from Moira Ross, from her command that Strictly needs to show a sensation a minute, with comic video clips, wall-to-wall props, four 10's, audience standing ovations. If there is one quiet moment it must be filled with gay jokes from Bruno and Craig as close to the edge as possible.

No wonder Brucie needs a lie-down in a darkened room after the first half, probably doctors orders.
ESPIONdansant
27-12-2011
The Christmas Special was just so puerile.

It's one thing not making a secret of being gay but the ludicrous 'On The Buses' era gags should be a thing of the past, surely! I don't think Craig or Bruno are professional 'gay' men in the way that....

I was going to say Julian Clary is an example of being professionally gay but I'm not even sure about him. He's funny.

I just found it really pathetic and objectionable. And if I were Russell Grant I'd be a bit more concerned about my dignity than my bank balance. Camping it up is a lot of fun for everyone (or maybe that's just me) but he is starting to look foolish.
lundavra
27-12-2011
Originally Posted by mklass:
“I cringed at the remark Brucie made to Bruno, completely uncalled for and un-neccessary..... but i think he is the one that writes the scripts and jokes isn't he?, so i dont think things will change anytime soon!... it certainly does seem like his sence of 1970 'humour'......”

I am sure that if Bruno was not comfortable with the banter then he could ask for it to be stopped, they would be afraid of litigation so would be sure to comply. Of course he would also have to stop using himself it against the males dancers or it might backfire on him.

Others would have stop making ageist jokes against Bruce.
blomes
27-12-2011
For all those concerned that Craig and Bruno should not be subjected to the odd 'gay' remark; perhaps if Craig refrained from camping it up and calling everyone 'Darling' and if Bruno stopped pursing his lips and salivating at every young 'hunk' there may be some sympathy for your comments.
From what I can see, they seem to revel in it.
dancingbearbear
27-12-2011
I'm not worried about Craig and Bruno in the slightest, and I wouldnt be at all suprised if 'the grant' didnt in fact insist upon the 'campest fairy in the cosmos' tag that was rammed down our throats. For me it's more a case of being bored and a bit insulted by the very dated 'ho ho, a man who likes other men' humour. It's lazy and just not funny.
Abbasolutely 40
27-12-2011
I am not sure why Russel Grant would be offended when his whole working persona ( I say working because I dont know the private man ) is based on campness and he made damn sure to show us his campness every second he could .
Craig makes it his business to be camper than camp and seems to base his persona on it too

What I find a bit off putting is Bruno leering at Harry and passing remarks about his body .Is that ok with straight men to have gay men leering at them ? I ask this in innocence as I dont know actually if it is ok .
Then again I hate Len leering at the girls too , so I guess its just the leering I hate .
ESPIONdansant
27-12-2011
Bruno seems to leer fairly equally at male and female.

"Why, Miss Jo-o-o-o-nes...".

It's rather tasteless and I hope he stops.
Vivacious Lady
27-12-2011
Originally Posted by Abbasolutely 40:
“...... . so I guess its just the leering I hate .”

I hate the leering too. It seems nowadays on Strictly that latin dancing, in particular, is expected to have no other element to it other than overtly sexual. Whereas it can be more subtle and nuanced than that. But subtle maybe doesn't pull in audience vote.
I agree with those saying that noone should be taking offence on behalf of Craig, Bruno or Russell. That's not to say people can't say that they are offended, and find Strictly humour dated. Just that it should be on their own behalf, not on behalf of those who appear to be complicit in the jokes. And to be fair the OP did seem to be expressing their personal opinion, rather than trying to speak up for Craig etc.
ms2608
27-12-2011
Caught up with the Christmas Special this morning. Have to say that I found Russell's fairy bordering on the grotesque rather than the amusing.
footygirl
27-12-2011
I thought Bruce went too far with his alleged gags on Sunday night. And thank goodness Moira Ross is leaving - if she is telling Bruce to do these tasteless gags in the name of ratings and money then she is a poor excuse for a person let alone producer
blomes
27-12-2011
Originally Posted by Abbasolutely 40:
“... so I guess its just the leering I hate .”

I get the impression that when men stop leering at saucy OLA she will hang up her dancing shoes and retire!
Normandie
27-12-2011
I think this all goes some way to defining why I find Brucie tedious, boring and ready for retirement: the humour is so elderly. There's no real wit, there's no smart humour... it's all nudge nudge... weak weak.

I don't think Bruce is capable of anything different and that is why I'd prefer him to go. Not ageist, just that his "humour" and presenting style has proved utterly fixed in ancient history.
soulmate61
27-12-2011
Originally Posted by lundavra:
“Others would have stop making ageist jokes against Bruce.”

Others do not tell ageist jokes against Bruce.
Only Bruce tells ageist jokes against Bruce.
Stockingfiller
27-12-2011
I agree totally about the over camping it up. Retrogade and uneccessary.
Serenity79
27-12-2011
I agree, the jokes are pretty disgusting and they make me shudder every time Bruce opens his mouth and spews forth yet another one Why is this allowed to continue? I always thought 'well, live show, perhaps he said that on his own and not scripted' (like that horrific time he asked Anton if he'd 'danced with many nancies' ) but the Christmas show - prerecorded - just proved that they allow him free reign with the homophobic 'jokes'.

The whole thing ruins my enjoyment of watching the show.
Parthenon
28-12-2011
In-your-endo.
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