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Old 27-12-2011, 19:58
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Zainab took Masood's surname after they married, why did she not take Yusef's when they married? The same applies to Afia, she is now a Masood and not Afia Tamwar.

I'm confused as I thought Muslim women kept their father's surname after marriage.
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Old 27-12-2011, 20:01
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Zainab took Masood's surname after they married, why did she not take Yusef's when they married? The same applies to Afia, she is now a Masood and not Afia Tamwar.

I'm confused as I thought Muslim women kept their father's surname after marriage.

It's not a documentary.
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Old 27-12-2011, 20:10
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OK basically, Zainab took Masood's first name because that is common in Asian countries. Amira and Afia took Syed and Tamwar's surnames as their own as that is common in this country. It really isn't that difficult to understand, especially when it's been explained on here many times!
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Old 27-12-2011, 20:13
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It's not a documentary.
Thanks for the your stunning observation. I really thought Easties was real life, how stupid of me to think otherwise.

OK basically, Zainab took Masood's first name because that is common in Asian countries. Amira and Afia took Syed and Tamwar's surnames as their own as that is common in this country. It really isn't that difficult to understand, especially when it's been explained on here many times!
Thank for most of the information in your post, although not everyone has the time to read every thread made in this section.
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Old 27-12-2011, 22:26
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Zainab did take Yusefs surname, she is now called Zainab Khan.
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Old 28-12-2011, 00:40
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Zainab did take Yusefs surname, she is now called Zainab Khan.
Just relooked at my opening post, I mistakenly put his surname instead of christian name as her married name.

Masood is Masood Ahmed, Zainab's then married surname and that of the offspring is Masood.

I couldn't figure out why she took Mas' christian name but not Yusef's as her married name.

Sorry for the confusion.
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Old 28-12-2011, 00:50
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Normally in Muslim culture, Muslim women carry on using their maiden name and do not take their husband's first name nor his surname. But in some cases, they do take their first name as do the children. But you won't find many cases of it, especially not in the UK or Western countries in general. I think EE writers got it kinda wrong here with the Masoods.
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Old 28-12-2011, 01:04
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I'm confused as I thought Muslim women kept their father's surname after marriage.
Dont be confused, your absolutely right. Islam bases great emphasises on Lineage. A verse in the quran commands that all off spring be attributed to their fathers. (exceptions are made in some legal issues) but in general a woman changing her surname to her husbands after marriage is a direct disobedience to the command of being attributed to her father. hence the act is considered a sin and has absolutely no recognition in islam and majority of muslims who have basic knowledge of islam will tell you this.

OK basically, Zainab took Masood's first name because that is common in Asian countries. Amira and Afia took Syed and Tamwar's surnames as their own as that is common in this country. It really isn't that difficult to understand, especially when it's been explained on here many times!
It is not that common. and definitely not an islamic option. i think the few asians who do, do it, do it due to culture not religion. Asians have a big problem with mixing religion with culture. which can be very irritating as some then think it is an islamic custom
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Old 28-12-2011, 01:11
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What about all those who change their name to Begum?
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Old 28-12-2011, 01:19
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What about all those who change their name to Begum?
Nah, that is only a surname for women. They don't change their surname to that. It's a name that's given to them by their parents.
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Old 28-12-2011, 01:21
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Its a matter of personal choice. Yusef and Tamwar would not make very good surnames, so Yusef and Zainab and Tamwar and Afia chose not to use them that way. Masood does make a good surname, so it was used that way. Its that simple.
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Old 28-12-2011, 01:32
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Normally in Muslim culture, Muslim women carry on using their maiden name and do not take their husband's first name nor his surname. But in some cases, they do take their first name as do the children. But you won't find many cases of it, especially not in the UK or Western countries in general. I think EE writers got it kinda wrong here with the Masoods.
EE writers are following an asian cultural example with this name thing.

if they wanted to follow islam they would know that god said ''attribute them to their fathers'' (them meaning all offspring)

the islamic ruling on the names is taken from the verse i quoted above.
i dont know any muslim in real life who changed her name to her husbands. this is actually considered a sin in islam as it goes against the quran which orders the opposite.

people mix culture with religion so much they then dont know which is which. sad as it confuses the innocent bystander who may be interested in one or the other.
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Old 28-12-2011, 01:36
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Dont be confused, your absolutely right. Islam bases great emphasises on Lineage. A verse in the quran commands that all off spring be attributed to their fathers. (exceptions are made in some legal issues) but in general a woman changing her surname to her husbands after marriage is a direct disobedience to the command of being attributed to her father. hence the act is considered a sin and has absolutely no recognition in islam and majority of muslims who have basic knowledge of islam will tell you this.
Thank you.

My little understanding of the Islamic faith led me to believe that females kept the fathers name in a sense of originating from this family.
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Old 28-12-2011, 01:43
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EE writers are following an asian cultural example with this name thing.

if they wanted to follow islam they would know that god said ''attribute them to their fathers'' (them meaning all offspring)

the islamic ruling on the names is taken from the verse i quoted above.
i dont know any muslim in real life who changed her name to her husbands. this is actually considered a sin in islam as it goes against the quran which orders the opposite.

people mix culture with religion so much they then dont know which is which. sad as it confuses the innocent bystander who may be interested in one or the other.
Yep. I agree 100% with you.

Exactly, me neither - I don't know ANY Muslim women in real life who've changed their surname to their husband's first name. It's more or less unheard of. I asked some of my Muslim friends about it too - they didn't even know about it lol. So EE got it wrong... AGAIN. What's new?

The BIB - totally true. It saddens to see how some let their cultures mix with Islam to the point where they do not know the difference. It's the case with all religions.
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Old 28-12-2011, 01:50
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The BIB - totally true. It saddens to see how some let their cultures mix with Islam to the point where they do not know the difference. It's the case with all religions.
lol EE are trying i guess. but what can we expect. am sure many muslims would help them with research and do it for free if they just would ask.

Thank you.

My little understanding of the Islamic faith led me to believe that females kept the fathers name in a sense of originating from this family.
your understanding is on point again and your welcome. if i can help in future feel free to talk to me. if i know i will share if i dont i wont BS you lol
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Old 28-12-2011, 02:02
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lol EE are trying i guess. but what can we expect. am sure many muslims would help them with research and do it for free if they just would ask.
Or they could hire a few Muslim scriptwriters. Simple. There's many Muslim scriptwriters out there like myself .

Hell, I'll be looking for a job in the summer when I graduate from Creative Writing. I'd happy to get my teeth into TV scriptwriting .

But yeah, I guess they are trying at least.
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Old 28-12-2011, 02:17
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It's my understanding that the choice of surname is a choice made taking both sides of the family's wishes into account.

I think there would have been somewhat of an argument over Afia taking on the Masood surname, seeing as Yusef hated Masood's guts!! They glossed over it in EE but in reality I'm sure Yusef would have pressured Afia into keeping the Khan name.
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Old 28-12-2011, 03:17
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people.... lifes too short
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Old 28-12-2011, 04:05
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It's not only that but I can't believe how many forum members don't read threads. This has been done 3 times on here now. I'm not being rude because somebody had a go earlier in an impolite way about repetitive threads but I don't think some people can read through past threads and just start up new ones. Maybe it's something the mods might want to consider looking at? If I start a thread, I go back as far as I can to check whether a similar topic is already going - just a thought.
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Old 28-12-2011, 05:14
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It's not only that but I can't believe how many forum members don't read threads. This has been done 3 times on here now. I'm not being rude because somebody had a go earlier in an impolite way about repetitive threads but I don't think some people can read through past threads and just start up new ones. Maybe it's something the mods might want to consider looking at? If I start a thread, I go back as far as I can to check whether a similar topic is already going - just a thought.
This is the first time I've visited the Soaps forum and I didn't understand the cultural explanation of Islamic females and their surnames before and after marriage, Glad this thread was started as its helped a soap forum newbie understand a little more. While it may be annoying for a forum oldie, it is easy to ignore a thread. I do it all the time!
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Old 28-12-2011, 08:14
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Could it have anything to do with Masood being her second husband? Do we know what her surname was when she was married to Yusef the first time?
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Old 28-12-2011, 10:12
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gee-em, the answer has already been given by Jayda. Read her post above . It's nothing to do with Masood being her second husband or anything like that. It's related to cultural tradition and religious tradition. You'll know what I mean when you her posts Better still, come to this thread: http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showt...php?t=1606262& and read there.
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Old 28-12-2011, 10:39
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[quote=GetMeOuttaHere;55535404]Thanks for the your stunning observation. I really thought Easties was real life, how stupid of me to think otherwise.

LOL HE GOT BITCHED SLAPPED
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Old 28-12-2011, 10:43
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I was thinking about this too, I was going to ask it on here, but no need now
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Old 28-12-2011, 10:47
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Yep. I agree 100% with you.

Exactly, me neither - I don't know ANY Muslim women in real life who've changed their surname to their husband's first name. It's more or less unheard of. I asked some of my Muslim friends about it too - they didn't even know about it lol. So EE got it wrong... AGAIN. What's new?

The BIB - totally true. It saddens to see how some let their cultures mix with Islam to the point where they do not know the difference. It's the case with all religions.
BIB I do,as it happens!!
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