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Where did marry the night chart?
Just remembered when people were saying marry the night was going to be released as a smash and be huge etc but people seem to be talking about it less, was wondering where it charted even after the download days to get it to #1? & im not interested in the discussions over it being a fifth single and People already owning it but katy perry kept getting number ones but people excusing it saying katy only sells singles
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Their is a big difference between Gaga and Katy perry
Gaga's album sold about 4/5 million copies based on the first few singles Katy perry's album sales stand at over 3 million copies despite 6 singles being released and being released nearly 18 months ago. |
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It peaked at #16 in the UK, but bare in mind that it charted when the album was first released too.
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It's under-performing, which is a real shame because it's such a deserving single.
It had the potential to be top 10, as it was sitting at #11 on iTunes for bloody ages waiting for the video to come and push it in but - Gaga being Gaga - she took too long and by the time it did arrive, it was too late. As it stands now, it peaked at #18 on the official charts here. I wouldn't pronounce time of death until we're a few weeks into January though. It's in the mid twenties on iTunes IIRC, so it could re-peak top 15, but I wouldn't expect anything dramatic. It helped to get the album shifting, which is more important I guess. |
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Their is a big difference between Gaga and Katy perry
Gaga's album sold about 4/5 million copies based on the first few singles Katy perry's album sales stand at over 3 million copies despite 6 singles being released and being released nearly 18 months ago. |
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Didnt i say i wasnt interested?
![]() You come on here and make a thread and say you want no discussion. Well guess what, the whole point of Forums is to discuss things. |
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It's under-performing, which is a real shame because it's such a deserving single.
It had the potential to be top 10, as it was sitting at #11 on iTunes for bloody ages waiting for the video to come and push it in but - Gaga being Gaga - she took too long and by the time it did arrive, it was too late. As it stands now, it peaked at #18 on the official charts here. I wouldn't pronounce time of death until we're a few weeks into January though. It's in the mid twenties on iTunes IIRC, so it could re-peak top 15, but I wouldn't expect anything dramatic. It helped to get the album shifting, which is more important I guess. |
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There is no need to be rude. I was just telling you
![]() You come on here and make a thread and say you want no discussion. Well guess what, the whole point of Forums is to discuss things. |
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I didnt mean it in a rude way so i apologise. I just didnt want it turning into yet another manipulative argumentative thread that goes off point and every other artist gets bashed.
I understand |
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Yes i agree. Im not a huge fan but it should have done better tbh especially as she had promoted on x factor and ema awards. But as you say it was hanging around for ages so the video should have been more organised. I think she should go on tour and concentrate on having fun with her fans and not talk about her next album as i think this era was rushed..
Find that hard to believe though considering I bet it would have been bigger than BTW if it was left as the original lead single. Then again, some of the biggest songs of the year have been very easy on the ears (Moves Like Jagger, We Found Love, Party Rock Anthem etc). Probably didn't help that she gave us a 14 minute video that the vast majority of people wouldn't "get". I think Gaga's major flaw is her timing, which IMO comes down to her schedule and taking on too much responsibility. MTN should have debuted weeks before it did, but because she was sandwiching editing the damn thing inbetween her day job, it came out late. Either that, or MTN should not have been announced, released or hyped in any way till much later. I just want her to leave this album with MTN. People liked it and the video, even if it wasn't much of a flashy success. Better to wrap things up on a relative high note, especially considering she could do a end-of-era medley at the Grammys and Brits, then perhaps collecting an award or two. Leave the rest of 2012 to touring, then come back in November with a new single (no new album till 2013 though). That gives her/us a years break (2 years since BTW and 1 1/2 years since album) which is pretty fair these days. I don't think people particularly care how long she goes away for, they just want new, less intense, radio friendly and mass-appeal material. |
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I agree
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With all due respect to her fans, I think 'MTN', much like the whole album, is overproduced.It sounds like noise to me.I much prefer the first few minutes when she just sings with no beat to overpower her voice.And that "breakdown" has to be the worst beat I've heard this year...The song has a good melody and relatively tolerable lyrics and I honestly think it could have been good (and more successful) if she had hired an actual producer.I respect her a lot for trying to be involved in all the aspects of her work, but maybe she's not capable to do everything at the same time...that's not a bad thing.
However, I disagree that the 13-minute video was one of the reasons why the single undeperformed.Imo, it should have been the other way around.The duration of the video generated a lot of momentum and you would see every blog having an "WOW!GaGa is going to release her longest video to date!" article, so this actually helped her.I think that when a song released by such a popular act fails to become at least a moderate hit after a hyped video, MASSIVE promo and a price slashing (not saying it was her fault that the price was slashed) and even a campaign by the fanbase, that means that the song is horrible
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Lady Gaga released the music video too EARLY, if anything.
In terms of the UK, the video could be released earlier. HOWEVER, we have to remember that the US is Lady Gaga's most important market, and the song was sitting at like #60 on iTunes or something, before she released the music video. If they'd let the radio airplay build up, and let Marry the Night maybe climb into the top 10 on iTunes BEFORE releasing the music video, it could've got to #1. Niggas In Paris and Set Fire the Rain are both in the top 10 on US iTunes currently without a music video, so a music video could easily boost either of them to #1. And notice, you don't see Kanye West/Jay-Z or Adele fans panicking that their singles don't have a music video yet. Whilst Lady Gaga fans were panicking that they were leaving the music video too late before Marry the Night was even top 1000 on iTunes! So typical. |
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Born this way was the worst album this year, for me.
Hated it so much, not a patch on The Fame/The Fame Monster. She is trying to be unique now, so much that nobody is interested. She tells people to be true to themselves, to love themselves for who they are, and to never change. She wasnt true to herself, she obviously doesn't love herself because she is always hiding behind a mask, she did change, a lot, she used to sit at a piano and sing without the stupid costumes, just the piano. Now she needs everything to keep people interested and people are still getting bored. I reckon she will have another album, but that will be her last. |
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^ She'll have many more albums (unless she voluntarily decides to quit music). Her fanbase is huge, so she could still sell millions of albums even if none of the general public like her. I don't think she'll ever be as popular as she was in 2009 again (let's be honest, she set the bar QUITE HIGH!), but I think she'll be around for a long time.
It's like Britney Spears and Eminem. They were MASSIVE this time last decade. Now they're nowhere near as big as they were, but they're still going just because their fanbases are so large, and their lead singles always get huge first week sales in the US. |
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^ She'll have many more albums (unless she voluntarily decides to quit music). Her fanbase is huge, so she could still sell millions of albums even if none of the general public like her. I don't think she'll ever be as popular as she was in 2009 again (let's be honest, she set the bar QUITE HIGH!), but I think she'll be around for a long time.
It's like Britney Spears and Eminem. They were MASSIVE this time last decade. Now they're nowhere near as big as they were, but they're still going just because their fanbases are so large, and their lead singles always get huge first week sales in the US. But im being serious, i can see one more album. Her fanbase are growing up, her music is getting aimed at the younger people. Each song she comes out with isnt anything unique, people cant be bothered watching her videos. I cant see her future after a 3rd album tbh. |
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Well Eminem had the best selling album of 2010, so i wouldnt say here is nowhere near as big as he was!?
But im being serious, i can see one more album. Her fanbase are growing up, her music is getting aimed at the younger people. Each song she comes out with isnt anything unique, people cant be bothered watching her videos. I cant see her future after a 3rd album tbh.
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Well Eminem had the best selling album of 2010, so i wouldnt say here is nowhere near as big as he was!?
But im being serious, i can see one more album. Her fanbase are growing up, her music is getting aimed at the younger people. Each song she comes out with isnt anything unique, people cant be bothered watching her videos. I cant see her future after a 3rd album tbh. Quote:
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Most people skip all the bullshit she has before the song starts!
EDIT: Most of the 'bullshit' is for her fans who want to know.
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Their is a big difference between Gaga and Katy perry
Gaga's album sold about 4/5 million copies based on the first few singles Katy perry's album sales stand at over 3 million copies despite 6 singles being released and being released nearly 18 months ago. |
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with that many singles katy is releasing she should sell more than what she's selling. maybe that's why people call her a singles artist
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That's fine...
EDIT: Most of the 'bullshit' is for her fans who want to know. ![]() So some of the fans can't be too interested which is why i think people are loosing interest. |
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Well Eminem had the best selling album of 2010, so i wouldnt say here is nowhere near as big as he was!?
But im being serious, i can see one more album. Her fanbase are growing up, her music is getting aimed at the younger people. Each song she comes out with isnt anything unique, people cant be bothered watching her videos. I cant see her future after a 3rd album tbh. |
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