Really, really didn't expect this one.
Just incredible that we're actually gonna stay up. Never thought I'd see it.
Just incredible that we're actually gonna stay up. Never thought I'd see it.
Palace Supporters Thread (Part 2)
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Looks like we (Leicester) can book our trip to Selhurst next season now.
Amazing transformation from when Holloway left.
Amazing transformation from when Holloway left.
We've got to mention Pulis. The job he's done since he came in has been miraculous. We were completely out of our depth in this league when he took over and in just 22 games he has taken us from relegation certainties to mid-table security. Unbelievable.
Originally Posted by Sattrega:
“We've got to mention Pulis. The job he's done since he came in has been miraculous. We were completely out of our depth in this league when he took over and in just 22 games he has taken us from relegation certainties to mid-table security. Unbelievable.”
“We've got to mention Pulis. The job he's done since he came in has been miraculous. We were completely out of our depth in this league when he took over and in just 22 games he has taken us from relegation certainties to mid-table security. Unbelievable.”
Absolutely. The mans a genius. Never seen a team transform so quickly.
Originally Posted by Joe19:
“Looks like we (Leicester) can book our trip to Selhurst next season now.”
“Looks like we (Leicester) can book our trip to Selhurst next season now.”
look forward to it.
Originally Posted by Sattrega:
“We've got to mention Pulis. The job he's done since he came in has been miraculous. We were completely out of our depth in this league when he took over and in just 22 games he has taken us from relegation certainties to mid-table security. Unbelievable.”
“We've got to mention Pulis. The job he's done since he came in has been miraculous. We were completely out of our depth in this league when he took over and in just 22 games he has taken us from relegation certainties to mid-table security. Unbelievable.”
what he's done has been amazing. i don't think any of us really expected this. i bet we were all hoping to somehow scrape clear and finish 17th!
now we can chill and have a major say in the title race.
Originally Posted by Sattrega:
“We've got to mention Pulis. The job he's done since he came in has been miraculous. We were completely out of our depth in this league when he took over and in just 22 games he has taken us from relegation certainties to mid-table security. Unbelievable.”
“We've got to mention Pulis. The job he's done since he came in has been miraculous. We were completely out of our depth in this league when he took over and in just 22 games he has taken us from relegation certainties to mid-table security. Unbelievable.”
It is a very tight race between him and Rogers in terms of manager of the season, but for me with his resources that he has had, Pulis wins it hands down.
Originally Posted by batdude_uk1:
“It is a very tight race between him and Rogers in terms of manager of the season, but for me with his resources that he has had, Pulis wins it hands down.”
“It is a very tight race between him and Rogers in terms of manager of the season, but for me with his resources that he has had, Pulis wins it hands down.”
even if he doesn't win it I hope what he's done gets recognised. long may it continue.
Originally Posted by Sattrega:
“Christ, that injury time aged me 10 years!
Bloody brilliant. Top performance, top win. Some sloppy defending at times to let them back in the game twice but we'll let that slide. We are staying up!”
“Christ, that injury time aged me 10 years!
Bloody brilliant. Top performance, top win. Some sloppy defending at times to let them back in the game twice but we'll let that slide. We are staying up!”
The longest 6 minutes of my life!
Here you go... what the table would look like if the season started when Tony Pulis took over.
Link.
Link.
Originally Posted by Joe19:
“Looks like we (Leicester) can book our trip to Selhurst next season now.
Amazing transformation from when Holloway left.”
“Looks like we (Leicester) can book our trip to Selhurst next season now.
Amazing transformation from when Holloway left.”
Indeed!
I like Everton and Bill Kenwright, too, but what a magic game it was this evening!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/27062091
Shouldnt be TOO much of an issue, still plenty of points clear.
Shouldnt be TOO much of an issue, still plenty of points clear.
I thought I had read that it is common practice for clubs to attempt to find out details of their opposition's team. I'm sure I also read that Pulis said that he would never believe any information he received in advance. If the team news was accurately leaked, did it affect Palace's side or tactics?
It is so disappointing that first "we are safe" then might not be after all. Four more wins should do it though.
It is so disappointing that first "we are safe" then might not be after all. Four more wins should do it though.
One of their staff cared so little about the club that he leaked information, and they want some sort of compensation from us? I'm confident it won't come to anything.
If Cardiff's story is to be believed, it's a shame that Freedman felt more support for Solskjaer than us too.
Interesting that we play Fulham on the last day, when Cardiff could be relying on our result to stay up...
If Cardiff's story is to be believed, it's a shame that Freedman felt more support for Solskjaer than us too.
Interesting that we play Fulham on the last day, when Cardiff could be relying on our result to stay up...
cardiff can get bent... a pathetic and desperate attempt by them to get points taken off of us and all because they have staff members who are quite happy to give out club info when asked... never have i wanted a club to be relegated more than i do them...
The Premier League know that a points deduction for violating 'good faith' would open the flood gates to claims.
Martin Samuel from the Mail sums up everything well:
Martin Samuel from the Mail sums up everything well:
Quote:
“They knew, but he knew they knew. That is the big flaw in Cardiff City’s industrial espionage complaint.
By 6pm on Friday, April 4, before Cardiff played Crystal Palace, their manager, Ole Gunnar Solskjaer, was aware his starting line-up had got out. He could have changed it. He chose not to. Cardiff lost 3-0. The leaked team was wrong anyway.
Crystal Palace’s sporting director Iain Moody, a former Cardiff employee, is being fingered as the culprit, but unless he offered financial inducement or broke the law of the land by, for instance, tapping telephones, this drama goes nowhere.
There is no Premier League law to specifically govern phoning a friend and calling in a favour; not even one to cover hiding in the bushes at a training session. It happens.
Every club would like to discover in advance what team they will be facing. That is why they send scouts to provide a detailed report on the opposition, their strengths and weaknesses and what occurs at set-plays.
Beyond that is the world of contacts. Who you know, what they know. Agents, old friends, mates of the manager, give them a call, find out what they’ve heard.
This won’t be news to Cardiff’s management team and, if it is, they might as well change the kit from red shirts to short trousers, neckscarf and woggle.
In a sorry attempt to reclaim points they do not deserve, Cardiff are now relying on the Premier League’s catch-all good faith rules, which are vague enough to apply in extreme cases. Rule B15 states: ‘In all matters and transactions relating to the league each club shall behave towards each other club and the league with the utmost good faith.’
In addition, there is a chairman’s charter insisting: ‘We will ensure that our clubs behave with the utmost good faith and honesty to each other, and do not unjustly criticise or disparage one another and maintain confidences.’
Calling an old pal to find out Cardiff’s starting XI is not considered a contravention of those articles. Paying an old pal, or tapping an old pal might be. Yet all the evidence suggests that Moody collected his information freely and without skulduggery, inducement or coercion. Indeed, Cardiff’s bigger problem is that there seems to have been at least one employee, and perhaps as many as three, who felt greater loyalty to Moody than they did to the new regime.
That is what owner Vincent Tan finds so humiliating, having sacked and disparaged Moody earlier in the season. How mortifying it must have been to then see him return, with Palace, and so comprehensively dismantle this brave new world.
‘Where Tan Sri goes we will follow,’ sing the Malaysian employees of the Cardiff owner in a cringeworthy 60th birthday video.
That love is clearly not being felt at his football club, though. To Cardiff fans, the complaint to the Premier League is embarrassing, smacks of naivety — and is, bottom line, doomed.
Tan changed Cardiff’s shirts from blue to red because he believed it was lucky and ended up bottom of the league.
He sacked a manager doing a good job, Malky Mackay, and replaced him with the novice Solskjaer. Now this. Without a financial paper trail or a bug in the manager’s office traceable to Moody, there really is no case to answer.
The Premier League are humouring Tan even by promising to investigate.
You want to know the secret that Cardiff’s executives are really trying to hide? None of them, from the top down, are smart enough for this league.”
“They knew, but he knew they knew. That is the big flaw in Cardiff City’s industrial espionage complaint.
By 6pm on Friday, April 4, before Cardiff played Crystal Palace, their manager, Ole Gunnar Solskjaer, was aware his starting line-up had got out. He could have changed it. He chose not to. Cardiff lost 3-0. The leaked team was wrong anyway.
Crystal Palace’s sporting director Iain Moody, a former Cardiff employee, is being fingered as the culprit, but unless he offered financial inducement or broke the law of the land by, for instance, tapping telephones, this drama goes nowhere.
There is no Premier League law to specifically govern phoning a friend and calling in a favour; not even one to cover hiding in the bushes at a training session. It happens.
Every club would like to discover in advance what team they will be facing. That is why they send scouts to provide a detailed report on the opposition, their strengths and weaknesses and what occurs at set-plays.
Beyond that is the world of contacts. Who you know, what they know. Agents, old friends, mates of the manager, give them a call, find out what they’ve heard.
This won’t be news to Cardiff’s management team and, if it is, they might as well change the kit from red shirts to short trousers, neckscarf and woggle.
In a sorry attempt to reclaim points they do not deserve, Cardiff are now relying on the Premier League’s catch-all good faith rules, which are vague enough to apply in extreme cases. Rule B15 states: ‘In all matters and transactions relating to the league each club shall behave towards each other club and the league with the utmost good faith.’
In addition, there is a chairman’s charter insisting: ‘We will ensure that our clubs behave with the utmost good faith and honesty to each other, and do not unjustly criticise or disparage one another and maintain confidences.’
Calling an old pal to find out Cardiff’s starting XI is not considered a contravention of those articles. Paying an old pal, or tapping an old pal might be. Yet all the evidence suggests that Moody collected his information freely and without skulduggery, inducement or coercion. Indeed, Cardiff’s bigger problem is that there seems to have been at least one employee, and perhaps as many as three, who felt greater loyalty to Moody than they did to the new regime.
That is what owner Vincent Tan finds so humiliating, having sacked and disparaged Moody earlier in the season. How mortifying it must have been to then see him return, with Palace, and so comprehensively dismantle this brave new world.
‘Where Tan Sri goes we will follow,’ sing the Malaysian employees of the Cardiff owner in a cringeworthy 60th birthday video.
That love is clearly not being felt at his football club, though. To Cardiff fans, the complaint to the Premier League is embarrassing, smacks of naivety — and is, bottom line, doomed.
Tan changed Cardiff’s shirts from blue to red because he believed it was lucky and ended up bottom of the league.
He sacked a manager doing a good job, Malky Mackay, and replaced him with the novice Solskjaer. Now this. Without a financial paper trail or a bug in the manager’s office traceable to Moody, there really is no case to answer.
The Premier League are humouring Tan even by promising to investigate.
You want to know the secret that Cardiff’s executives are really trying to hide? None of them, from the top down, are smart enough for this league.”
Martin Samuel has it spot on.
what pisses me off is all this crap from Cardiff is detracting from our great win last night and from our overall achievement. i really hope this blows up in the face of that desperado, Tan.
what pisses me off is all this crap from Cardiff is detracting from our great win last night and from our overall achievement. i really hope this blows up in the face of that desperado, Tan.
Originally Posted by Tusk0312:
“Martin Samuel has it spot on.
what pisses me off is all this crap from Cardiff is detracting from our great win last night and from our overall achievement. i really hope this blows up in the face of that desperado, Tan.”
“Martin Samuel has it spot on.
what pisses me off is all this crap from Cardiff is detracting from our great win last night and from our overall achievement. i really hope this blows up in the face of that desperado, Tan.”
It's serious straw clutching imo. They've made a monumental error in firing the last manager and are scrambling for points. Sunderland fielded an illegible player this season and only got a fine for it.
I think the authorities probably have to be seen doing something, but i'd be surprised if any thing comes of it especially seeing as Solskjaer had plenty of time to make changes to the team if he knew the names had been leaked.
A great win last night by the way. Pulis has done a great job for you, you looked seriously doomed not that long ago.
Originally Posted by -Bandit-:
“cardiff can get bent... a pathetic and desperate attempt by them to get points taken off of us and all because they have staff members who are quite happy to give out club info when asked... never have i wanted a club to be relegated more than i do them...”
“cardiff can get bent... a pathetic and desperate attempt by them to get points taken off of us and all because they have staff members who are quite happy to give out club info when asked... never have i wanted a club to be relegated more than i do them...”
I agree 100% they are the joke club of the division. Not condoning the leaking of the team but asking for the result not to stand is so ridiculous and desperate.
i sense the media dissapointment at tony pulis.get over it media hes a better manager then one of your darlings ian holloway
It's weird going into tomorrow's game already safe (pretty much). We can almost relax and have a bit of a party for the last 4 matches.
Originally Posted by Joooe:
“It's weird going into tomorrow's game already safe (pretty much). We can almost relax and have a bit of a party for the last 4 matches.”
“It's weird going into tomorrow's game already safe (pretty much). We can almost relax and have a bit of a party for the last 4 matches.
”
The "Battle For 11th" - a win tomorrow will not only be 5 in a row, but will help cement 11th spot for us, something we could have only dreamed about a few months back!
Wouldn't it be great if we could somehow manage to go the rest of the season unbeaten!
Originally Posted by Joooe:
“It's weird going into tomorrow's game already safe (pretty much). We can almost relax and have a bit of a party for the last 4 matches.”
“It's weird going into tomorrow's game already safe (pretty much). We can almost relax and have a bit of a party for the last 4 matches.
”
Originally Posted by Sattrega:
“The "Battle For 11th" - a win tomorrow will not only be 5 in a row, but will help cement 11th spot for us, something we could have only dreamed about a few months back!
Wouldn't it be great if we could somehow manage to go the rest of the season unbeaten!”
“The "Battle For 11th" - a win tomorrow will not only be 5 in a row, but will help cement 11th spot for us, something we could have only dreamed about a few months back!
Wouldn't it be great if we could somehow manage to go the rest of the season unbeaten!”
today's line-up:
Speroni, Mariappa, Dann, Delaney, Ward, Digkacoi, Jedinak, Puncheon, Ledley, Bolasie, Jerome.
Subs : Hennessey, Gabbidon, Parr, Guedioura, Ince, Gayle, Murray.
Speroni, Mariappa, Dann, Delaney, Ward, Digkacoi, Jedinak, Puncheon, Ledley, Bolasie, Jerome.
Subs : Hennessey, Gabbidon, Parr, Guedioura, Ince, Gayle, Murray.
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