1.0's only album is still the 2nd SMALLEST selling Sugababes album. They didn't have a platinum album until Heidi joined the band. The 2.0 and 3.0 albums all went a minimum of platinum.

Im also confused at this, the only album they released was one of the worst selling albums of their career, with Heidi came the success and the platinum albums.

If the original Sugababes reform they could team up with the current Sugababes and record Walk This Way again.

What number would this get to in the charts?

The original line-up have no chance.

At best, they'll have a career similar to Nicola Roberts, which isn't really much of a career at all.

Keisha isn't dumb anyway. She wouldn't be content with only being popular with arty-farty pop blogs.

It had nothing to do with Heidi - just better management, label and promotion - had Siobhan stayed the outcome would've been the same - if not more successful
The first album is brimming with raw talent and superb songwriting - they'll never beat Overload. Taller In More Ways is my 2nd fave album from them, then Angels then Three.
I don't really see them as Sugababes anymore - like most of the country

I honestly do think they're over now. They've lost that edge and they are now just a pop act. They seem a little dated too, they don't really fit into the industry anymore with their style of music (though they tried to with "Freedom").

The band had a good run and did well for a lot of years, but I think it's best to pack up now and go out instead of running themselves completely into the ground and destroying the reputation of the band even further.

I disagree, they were too moody and unapproachable with their first album, Heidi bought bubbly and smiles which made them more accessible, the second line-up had just as much talent if not more then line-up one, the first album was bland, boring and didnt sit well with the public, thats why they mostly flopped until Heidi joined.

If Siobhan had sticked around, the direction would be different but to say they would be more successful is far-fetched.Siobhan wouldn't fit in on tracks like 'Push The Button', 'In The Middle' and 'Hole In The Head' and those were 3 of the most career-defining hits for the 'Babes.If Siobhan had stayed, the band wouldn't be commercial, so they would be lucky to get the odd moderate hit every 2-3 years.And this is all hypothetical, because if Siobhan was indeed unhappy in the band, the "raw talent and superb songwriting" would decline and maybe even fade due to constant fighting and creative disagreements between the members

So, 'About You Now' was edgy? They've lost their edge since 2005, bar a few album tracks, but people simply didn't complain because Keisha was in the band.However, the fact that they weren't getting a backlash does not mean that 3.0. were successful.They were losing steam.'Catfights And Spotlights' was released when the public still loved them and it flopped.Yes, the promotion was a mess, but there was obviously a decline in sales and public attention.They barely debuted in the top 10!

The reason why 4.0 get all this negative feedback is because of how poorly they were handled.When Keisha left, the label should have done exactly what they were doing now : delay the album, pause any music-related plans and introduce each member to the public differently.Had they done this, Jade wouldn't be the "who?" person, Heidi wouldn't get blamed for "betrayal" and Amelle wouldn't get all the hate she ended up getting.Instead, they didn't even audition to find a new member, they rushed Jade into the studio to re-record Keisha's parts and they churned out 'About A Girl' thinking the fanbase was checking for it...

Btw, maybe waiting until they bring out one more single, or better yet the album itself before forming an opinion about their "edge" and their overall sound would be much better than writing them off now, but anyway

TBH with Siobhan even stating when she left that she left because of bullying, I don't know why the public lashed out at Heidi and Amelle for simply walking away from a bully. The fact that the label stood by them at the time speaks volumes.

People on here wouldn't like it if they were subjected to the harsh postings and newspaper articles that Heidi and Amelle were subjected to since Keisha's dismissal.

If her dismissal was so wrong, why didn't she sue for wrongful dismissal? She didn't sue for wrongful dismissal because she knew she'd lose. Bullying is unnacceptable in ANY workplace.

In The Middle is hideous! Freak Like Me, Round Round or Stronger YES but that song....no Siobhan wouldn't have featured on the songs you mention, because she'd never write such material. Her 2 solo albums are outstanding - I think the sound of the Babes would've been somewhere between her albums and Overload. They wouldn't have delivered aural turds like Catfights and Dogshite or Sweet 7

To be honest, it boils down to this: nobody aside from a few deranged pop bloggers and a handful of quirky fans are here for the original line up, either individually or together.

The current line up at least has media attention, and with the right track, can be "saved". Until then, they're on track with their careers, making them stronger individually. Will make their comeback even stronger.

very true, its time to move on. the reality is nobodies that interested in the group any more. they have been out of favour for some considerable time. there`s no edge like you say and credibility has also been compromised over the years.

now they are going done the reality tv route to stay in the public eye and that really is scraping the barrel.

The generic record buying public (i.e those who go 'oohwho's that song? Sugababes? Might give them a go) couldn't care less whois in the group or who deserves to be.

The edge went when they decided to do an awful Comic Relief song instead of the brilliant 'Good to be gone', then started wearing matching yellow dresses (WTF?) and when thier samples and covers went from being edgy electro urban (Freak Like Me) to songs used in a Boots advert.

Heidi's DOI interview doesn't sound too promising. I honestly think that the girls should have stuck with Keisha, released Sweet 7 and gone their separate ways after the album was released.

I hope that Heidi does well on DOI. I've always liked her and she comes across really well, so fingers crossed this will open doors for her.

Well, hideous or not, it's still one of their biggest hits and if Siobhan was in the band it would have never been released.Siobhan is a great artist, but she has her own lane, she's not commercial.Therefore, if she was still in the band, they wouldn't have been even MORE successful than 2.0 were.That's all

Flopping aside, I'm sure if the originals chose to reform then that would garner much more "media attention" than anything 4.0 can do.

Attention does not equal success.'Beat Of My Drum' got attention too (I LOVE this track btw )

And once again, I wonder why people think an 1.0 return would generate so much momentum The line-up will consist of Mutya (who had a hit 6 years ago and now she's releasing viral videos that peak at around 1k views each after taking part in Celebrity Big Brother and rocking a golden tooth), Keisha (who has been gearing up for her take-over for the past 2 years spawning many smash hits in the process like....hmm... ) and Siobhan (who went for something more unique and less commercial, so sadly she's only well known to the 4.0 haters and 1.0 die-hard fans).How would this be a success?

Aside from some forums and blogs and the 4.0 naysayers, I don't think the general public will be even remotely interested in the return of a band who split 11 years ago with 1 hit under their belts.Am I wrong?

If 4.0 dare release anything further, it'll flop hard! Possibly even harder than before - guaranteed. Heidi's DOI appearance could shift an extra 20 copies or so but that's it. So much for her being the 'key to their success' - tooooooo funny.:sleep:

You should join Pop Justice. They have deluded/demented/deeply-afflicted forum members that share your delusions.

What is your issue? It's forum members like you and Makson that ruin every Sugababes thread, and make casual forum members not want to post in here.

Can you please both go away? Seriously, go join Pop Justice. Not even me being insulting, they have like a half-dozen anti-Sugababes Sugababes threads.

I agree, they've hit their sell by date and looked old at Tonthebeach compared to the other bands.

That's the issue. They were wrongly targeting a younger crowd, when they should be aiming for an older crowd, like Adele and Rebecca Ferguson.

This is a 'forum' and as such not everyone will share your adoration for a tribute band. Grow up...and get a grip while you're at it..:yawn:

So Dizagoax needs to grow up, but you don't when you call the Sugababes a 'tribute band' about 2 years after it stopped being remotely funny or interesting. How ironic