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Also I think some of our opinions of the loys comes from the days of the sandloys group, where it was totally dominated by a group of young girls who have displayed some appalling behaviour towards Josie and spent most of their time being nasty or trying desperately to get the attention of one of Johns friends. When John shut down the loys group, it seemed to me the worst offenders then set up the exclusive group and persuaded the loys to join, followed by John who probably doesn't give enough of a rip to notice and thus they now hold power they have no right to.....such is life!
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some very interesting posts this morning, keeps the thread going, although dont you just get fed up of hearing the m and l word, your either a fan or not a fan , its a bit pathetic, how grown ups can act how they do, its like in the playground, im sure some have children, wonder what sort of role model they are, because theyre no better that the school ground bullies who are expelled for less
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some very interesting posts this morning, keeps the thread going, although dont you just get fed up of hearing the m and l word, your either a fan or not a fan , its a bit pathetic, how grown ups can act how they do, its like in the playground, im sure some have children, wonder what sort of role model they are, because theyre no better that the school ground bullies who are expelled for less
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Hello everyone some good posts on here today and last night
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Hello everyone some good posts on here today and last night
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Hello Carole. Good Idea.
![]() However.... the lists I have don't start until March, I'm afraid they're not much use right now. Plus, I think we have lots of new members, and shy members, who aren't on the list. I know a few Jan/Feb bds so I will start a list of those and post it this weekend. Would everyone be so kind as to post their Birthday so that I can update the lists? THANKS! |
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yes there were also some very funny ones
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Yes there was i like it when there is lots to read
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Yes there was i like it when there is lots to read
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hello how are you today
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So do I, especially when i'm out all day love when there's at least 10 pages, I have to read from where I left off, can't jump straight in which is why sometimes again i catch up everyone's either gone or going
maggi x
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Hi Sue, hope your feeling a bit better today, are you trying your physio? maggi x
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i have to read every thing as well i also stick my head over the neibours fence to see what their saying as well im nosey
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Maybe the difference with Qwerty is that he takes the mick out of BOTH of them - so it makes him a JOINT - supporter/hater whatever he is. Like I said before I don't care what anyone does/says/tweets to either of them - LIFE is much more important to me. I come on here to talk to FRIENDS - that is all - and to have a little fun. Obviously - everyone's idea of fun is different - I haven't seen you have any on here at all so I don't know what your type of fun you like and can't have a banter with you because of that. But I'm not going to be made to feel guilty from anyone for having some myself - like I said before - I LIKE QWERTY - he is my guilty pleasure - nothing I can do about it. Quoted from Killing Time - couldn't get quotes to work right. ![]() Quote:
By muckers and loys do you mean the extreme elements of the differing fan bases? if so differences? for me? irony mainly, humour and how it's used, a kind of moral stance that comes through in their posts and is also shown in how they treat the weaker/less intelligent kid so to speak who doesn't always get it, point of view that's equally scathing of everyone's hypocrisies
Yes, the extreme ones. Since the breakup drama began that's how this thread has labeled them. I don't think the humor makes qwerty any better than the others. Ben could be funny in the BB house, but his humor was usually a put down of someone. It's not a good thing and I don't think qwerty's intent is just to be funny, I think it's to preach, to belittle, and to hurt the people involved, whoever he's targetting at the moment. And I'm not a fan of that. Quote:
I think it's excused more because people have less to go on so they can ascribe emotions/feelings to him that might not exist in reality. With Josie most of her emotions/feelings are out there in black and white so she comes in for more criticism as a result.
Thank you for seeing what is there, that his behavior is excused here. I'm not making it up or looking for a fight in here as people seem to think. And that does make sense to some extent. But the fact that John's hate-filled tweets and some of his actions towards Josie to purposely hurt her are obvious, he still gets a pass on these and they are romanticized for what people wish his intent is, while Josie has just given her opinion on her relationship and is criticized for it. And someone pointed out recently, she hasn't given out details. She's just stated how she felt in the relationship. John doesn't mince his words. Which is why I take what he says at face value, not creating a story that I want to believe. Quote:
Reading John's time line there is a little group of loys that are pouring poison in John's ear all the time and this shows me that they would do anything yes anything to stop John and Josie ever even becoming friends again.
Tell me how can you support someone and yet try to shape their lives. Not true supporters in my opinion. Why try to hurt the person you are supposed to"love". Beats me , it really does. |
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there was also some good points made ie muckers nd loys
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I look at all the neighbours as well as twitter, wouldn't call it nosey, a little curious maybe
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Yes there was but i dont have anything to do with Loys or Muckers i'm sure they are very nice members but its not for me
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Just watching Gilmore Girls that is so sweet Lorelai just sang to luke so sweet
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I am sure that the two groups are fine as Cheeky says, and there are perfectly nice gentle people who post on both I know ; but in the long term the whole mucker and loy term has spread to the extreme John fans call the muckers names and some fans of Josie call the John fans names. I am always seeing dm s and uckers bandied about. It is like something out of the schoolyard when in fact we are talking about grown woman with jobs careers children . So in the long run was it wise for John and Josie to foster these groups maybe making up these names has made it so much easier for people to take sides just a thought but too late now anyway.
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[quote=muddyminded;55839726]I can understand you having a positive opinion because you have been included and accepted for your unique opinions, others amongst us haven't and I resent (as I'm sure John would) people excluding and holding power to exclude and judge other people when really they have no right doing that. I did used to be a member of the muckers but only because they accepted anyone (as the loys should) but Josie speaks on twitter so there didn't seem much point. I don't want to be a member of a fan community and suck up to people that hold power, who's behaviour I often abhor, just so I can be thrown a few scraps of information. So until they change their ways, many of Johns fans will be excluded and what that will mean I don't know.[/QUOTE
Good afternoon, on for a few mins to catch up, agree with most points made on this post
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Just watching Gilmore Girls that is so sweet Lorelai just sang to luke so sweet
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I am sure that the two groups are fine as Cheeky says, and there are perfectly nice gentle people who post on both I know ; but in the long term the whole mucker and loy term has spread to the extreme John fans call the muckers names and some fans of Josie call the John fans names. I am always seeing dm s and uckers bandied about. It is like something out of the schoolyard when in fact we are talking about grown woman with jobs careers children . So in the long run was it wise for John and Josie to foster these groups maybe making up these names has made it so much easier for people to take sides just a thought but too late now anyway.
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Hi Sue, hope your feeling a bit better today, are you trying your physio? maggi x
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Afternoon all ![]() Just having a quick catch up in between doing some housework ![]() I will be back later ![]() Quote:
Hey lovely
I'm on both groups and can truthfully say that the people on loys and muckers are mostly lovely. I can't speak for any individuals twitters though as I don't follow most from either group.The admins know I like both and continue to support them separately. And I think there must be others in my position on both groups. I don't get on FB very much at all so I am barely on either. When I do get to say hi everyone has been so nice to me. So I don't know what the criteria is really for a person to be accepted on either group. Every request is considered. I don't consider myself a mucker or loy though as I am my own person.. I don't want to be labelled as anything.
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Hello Carole. Good Idea.
![]() However.... the lists I have don't start until March, I'm afraid they're not much use right now. Plus, I think we have lots of new members, and shy members, who aren't on the list. I know a few Jan/Feb bds so I will start a list of those and post it this weekend. Would everyone be so kind as to post their Birthday so that I can update the lists? THANKS! Can I add mine, it is the 16th February |
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Irish Dreamer yes I'm talking to you will we ever see you back here again even a pm saying how you are would be nice waiting and hoping Irish xxx
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