Brief analysis: Josie pushed him away because she was afraid to be loved and have someone love her like John did. She was afraid she might get used to it and then he would leave her like everyone else. She was afraid that he didn't really love her because she doesn't feel like anyone ever has loved her, so it was better to push him away and protect herself.

She has forgotten what it was really like because she doesn't want to admit to herself that she ruined something really good and it is easier to smile and laugh than to feel genuine emotion because that would mean vulnerability and facing some really painful emotions.

He also says John is lost to her and lost in the darkness in his heart and basically hiding with new girl.

I am so impressed with qwerty,

He has ripped into John, many times!

It is a sad quote though.

Just a final thought for the night. I think we all fell a bit in love with Josie in the house not only because she is bubbly and lovely but because she showed her vulnerable side. I remember Mario saying that John had drained Josie of her energy but I felt like she almost went through a form of intensive therapy with John and he with her too. The are both such complicated characters and they were in this unique situation where they were trapped together and they were forced to feel real emotion, living every moment completely in the moment, because there are no distractions in the house - the past, the future and even their well assembled personas cease to exist. But out in the real world, other people start putting their opinions in, they have a multitude of distractions, the past and future reappear and they can leave things festering and unresolved. So, I think that experience was good for Josie and John, it's just a shame that the transformations didn't stick and they didn't have time to complete them before real life took over.

It annoys me that people in general like to gloss over and hide from the truth, I just think why can't you just let yourself feel what you have to feel, in the words of Jessie J 'It's ok not to be ok'. Everything doesn't have to be positive all the time and it's more important to be real, with yourself if not anyone else. I think this is why Josies tweets sometimes grate on me. I feel like I don't know her any more and I want to see more of the 'real' Josie that we saw in BB

Might have, call it research maggi x

Just to clarify before people jump on me, I'm not saying she's fake now.........

True, I remember now, but there hasn't been much for a while. You would have thought his latest outburst would have elicited a bit more piss taking than it did......

Night all :sleep: i'll dim the lights tonight, won't turn them off completely Maggi X

"he was a lost abyss, an aching soul taking up residence in the wrong heart"
that line just blew me away completely. they are both in the wrong hearts

i'll leave the lights on low, just in case.....................

I'm nosy too, but I think it's good Josie's kept us in the dark about stuff. We wouldn't know where she was going if that friend hadn't of tweeted it. I wonder if she would have ever told if that hadn't happened? At least until she got back.


I think someone who is putting their feelings out there about the situation, yet leading people to believe it's what happened or what JJJ are feeling. It's a load of crap and always has been. It's someone who loves the attention they get. And where do they get the most attention? From here. So the glee and excitement over the posts, keeps the person posting.


You think it's John? I hope not, because if so it's a bit unhealthy. First of all asking himself if he and Josie have broken up and doing the blue and no would be rather weird.

And if he's pining for Josie (which I don't think he is as he has a girl friend) taking the piss out of Josie and being rude about her is not okay. I know people think it's great and think it shows John cares in this way, but if it is him, it's not okay to treat someone you care about that way. No matter what.

But I don't think it's him.


I don't think so. I think it's someone who wants to continue the drama, when the relationship is long over. Someone who wants to punish Josie moving on with her life when she was broken-hearted and alone. Someone who want attention. And someone who is using the very, very involved JJJ fanbase to get it.


Yes, qwerty does want people to think they're involved, when actually they're just making observations. Incorrect ones, in my opinion.


At the beginning qwerty took the piss out of fans. Now he's taking the piss out of Josie. And Luke. LOL, I think I've seen that somewhere else before?

Yes I totally agree with this.


It is more about Josie because she is in the public eye and more importantly she gets talked about a lot more. John has remained hidden, and we have only had one short outburst after weeks and weeks of silence.

If nothing is happening Qwerty is also silent. He is reacting not to Josie or John, but to who is being talked about, and of course it is nearly always Josie. So I think it is about the reactions from her fans and supporters and reactions from John James fans and supporters that he is commenting on.

If you notice there is often a bit of a delay before Qwerty comes on, it is as if he/she is having a bit of a catch reading the thread. If there is a bit of a drama checks what's going on and then tweets. It is even predicted on here that Qwerty will be on and within minutes often is

But this has to be the longest session of tweets from him/her tonight for a long time.

I think qwerty's getting desperate. John's moved on. Josie's moved on. Qwerty can't let the fans move on then qwerty will become irrelevant. Before you didn't hear voice in qwerty's tweets. They were just sarcastic. Now, there's voice to the tweets.

No one knows for sure who qwerty is and how do you know all this, we know actually very very little, only what Josie has chosen to reveal, which is actually is zilch. Plenty of cryptic little tweets, innuedenos, back-track statements but other than that theres not a whole lot to go on, so how anyone can say that they are catergorically in the know beats me. How do you know for sure they have moved on, or that the fans need to, a lot of presumption there.

Good Morning. You're up early. Couldn't sleep?

Hiya, no got a really bad cough and throat - yuk. Internet been off as well, withdrawal symptoms ie. facebook, email, here lol

Send you a pm if I can stay connected

Just answered you

can i come in , hello,love this place have watched from ,the early days

john james and josie the feckers have fecked my head up even to this day ,love the bones of them ,still

You're full Maria. Have a clear out. LOL

Okey dokey

Gotta go Maria
Can't answer you last PM as you're full
Speak to you later
Fingers crossed
Lyn

Hello bumpy, are you Irish?

yes 2 judy ,from dublin , ,hows you

Great, well not really, not well at moment, hence up too early. Welcome to the thread, I expect there will be others on later, its a bit early yet. Are you a lurker lol

hello guys oh no ,well i will talk about me another time ,i just want to say to 2 judy take care love
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