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Alesha stabbed BBC in the back
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pasodabble
02-01-2012
Originally Posted by bobble_hat:
“I would have thought that Alesha wants to remain in the industry for the significant future and so would be thinking about her long-term 'career'. Switching purely for the money may make her very rich for the year or so she lasts but I don't think it will open up many opportunities for her after that.”

True, but maybe she felt judging Strictly year after year for £90/100K wasn't doing much to help her long term "career" and earnings? She got the odd documentary and presenting gig from the Beeb but not much else, and had to look elsewhere for supplementary earnings. She probably believes defecting to Simon is a risk worth taking; she may even become his new beard as this post is currently vacant, from all indications.
Mystical123
02-01-2012
Originally Posted by Bear Trader:
“Last summer there were rumours that she was going to XF.”

That was last summer, not this year.

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“The rumours had some truth to it as Alesha was in secret talks with Simon.”

How do you know when she had talks with Simon Cowell? It might only have been last week!

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“pitiful perfromance”

Your opinion only.

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“All the while she was planning to jumpship for the rival group.”

I am amused by the number of times your post is basically claiming to read Alesha's mind. Unless you have some concrete evidence, you have no idea when she decided to take the BGT job.



She's leaving one job and moving to another, that's all there is to it. It happens every day, it's called life. No betrayal as there's nothing to betray, it's only her job, and fair play to her if she's got a better offer that is in her economic interests to take. Alesha Dixon does not belong to Strictly, her contract ended after the final and she wouldn't be offered a new one until the summer, so whoever approaches her is no-one's business but her own, and Simon Cowell certainly had free rein to do so.

People change jobs every day, but you wouldn't accuse every single one of them of betraying their former employer, would you?
jazzyjake
02-01-2012
Originally Posted by mindyann:
“But working for Syco opens up all sorts of opportunities is she wants to get her music career kick started.

Could she appear as a guest artist on X-factor if still a judge on Strictly?

As part of the Syco stable it would almost be part of the job description - and there is the crossover to America's Got Talent to factor in as well. Sometimes the more hidden perks are what' swings it.”

But that's not true is it.

Simon only gives opportunities to those are are very talented and can make him money. Even Leona who is very talented, doesnt seem to roll with Simon anymore, likewise Alexandra. Nicole from the Pussycat Dolls seems to have it all but her music career hasn't gone too well. I don't need to explain what Simon did when he got bored of Cheryl.

I just can't see how it will offer her more opportunities than SCD could have done.

Also do you think Simon is hiring her because she is very talented or he wants to create publicity by pinching a SCD judge after it got one over on the XFactor.
bobble_hat
02-01-2012
Originally Posted by pasodabble:
“True, but maybe she felt judging Strictly year after year for £90/100K wasn't doing much to help her long term "career" and earnings? She got the odd documentary and presenting gig from the Beeb but not much else, and had to look elsewhere for supplementary earnings. She probably believes defecting to Simon is a risk worth taking; she may even become his new beard as this post is currently vacant.”

I think 'a risk' is exactly what this is, and a huge one for her. I doidn't understand it because the hate has mostly subsided this year (except maybe on this forum ) and she finally seemed to have settled in this series IMO. Unless she is really desperate for money, I don't understand why she feels the need to take such a risk in moving to a flagging show where the boss is notorious for unceremoniously dumping young women. Hence why I think there's more than meets the eye - surely she is driven by more than her next bank balance?
jazzyjake
02-01-2012
Originally Posted by Mystical123:
“That was last summer, not this year.



How do you know when she had talks with Simon Cowell? It might only have been last week!



Your opinion only.



I am amused by the number of times your post is basically claiming to read Alesha's mind. Unless you have some concrete evidence, you have no idea when she decided to take the BGT job.



She's leaving one job and moving to another, that's all there is to it. It happens every day, it's called life. No betrayal as there's nothing to betray, it's only her job, and fair play to her if she's got a better offer that is in her economic interests to take. Alesha Dixon does not belong to Strictly, her contract ended after the final and she wouldn't be offered a new one until the summer, so whoever approaches her is no-one's business but her own, and Simon Cowell certainly had free rein to do so.

People change jobs every day, but you wouldn't accuse every single one of them of betraying their former employer, would you? ”

It depends on what kind of person you are. There is loyalty and there is no doubt the BBC were loyal to her after all the unfair flack she took after Arlene leaving. Maybe i am wrong. but i am certain that the BBC will feel a bit aggrieved that she jumped ship as soon as SCD had it's best year in a long time.

Anyway we shall see how well this turns out for her.
cezzy
02-01-2012
Has it actually been confirmed that Alesha is joining BGT or is it still rumour?
sammyvine
02-01-2012
Originally Posted by cezzy:
“Has it actually been confirmed that Alesha is joining BGT or is it still rumour?”

She has confirmed it, and BBC has as well.

She would never have quit if BGT didn't offer her a role.
Doghouse Riley
02-01-2012
Originally Posted by jazzyjake:
“Not really though. Wayne Rooney can't be compared as Sports is completely different. Everton are not a huge club compared to United and you can understand why Rooney would move to play under Ferguson. SCD on the other hand is on par with the Xfactor so it's not like she was leaving a rubbish show to join a much better one. If anything it's a step back with how rigid and fixed Simon Cowell's shows are.

This whole move just reminds me of Chiles and Christine moving to Day Break and look where that ended.”

Sport isn't any different.

How is it a "step back?"

What was the incentive for her to move to ITV?

Same as it was for Rooney to move to ManU.

Money!

I bet it hardly matters what she's going to do on the show or whether it's "rigid or fixed."

What on earth do you think that has got to do with her pay cheque?

Loyalty doesn't come into it. The BBC are obsessed with ratings, if any employee isn't considered an asset or they think they can do better with someone else. They'll fire anyone. It's just business.

It wasn't a question of loyalty after she was a shock replacement, they'd have been rubbing their hands with glee over all the publicity.
But now that's history, they'll move on.
They won't lose any sleep over the loss of Alesha, plenty more from where she came.
mindyann
02-01-2012
Originally Posted by jazzyjake:
“But that's not true is it.

Simon only gives opportunities to those are are very talented and can make him money. Even Leona who is very talented, doesnt seem to roll with Simon anymore, likewise Alexandra. Nicole from the Pussycat Dolls seems to have it all but her music career hasn't gone too well. I don't need to explain what Simon did when he got bored of Cheryl.

I just can't see how it will offer her more opportunities than SCD could have done.

Also do you think Simon is hiring her because she is very talented or he wants to create publicity by pinching a SCD judge after it got one over on the XFactor.”

I think Simon would hire her because the hiring will generate column inches and get him a known judge and possibly hit a rival show.

If he has to find a 3 minute slot on one of the other shows in his stable, then it's no skin off his nose.

She has probably accepted because it gets her a 3 minute slot on one of the other shows to re-launch her music career. It doesn't have to be good, just popular for that brief moment in time. It just means that a bit of you scratch my back, I scratch yours has gone on and a couple of different objectives meshed.
Chris1964
02-01-2012
Originally Posted by jazzyjake:
“It depends on what kind of person you are. There is loyalty and there is no doubt the BBC were loyal to her after all the unfair flack she took after Arlene leaving. Maybe i am wrong. but i am certain that the BBC will feel a bit aggrieved that she jumped ship as soon as SCD had it's best year in a long time.

Anyway we shall see how well this turns out for her.”

Its a curious situation. The BBC must have known there would have been a strong chance she would get flack for lack of deep dance knowledge when they offered her the job. Both Alesha and the Beeb both toughed it out and for me at least she started to fit with the show-and the show has a very different feel now. However the underlying knowledge issue was always there and probably Alesha was always going to be a better fit for something like BGT than SCD-Im therefore not surprised she has gone.

SCD is big business now-the BBC want a big name as a judge to keep up the momentum and the press interest. And yet a non-dance choice will invite the same criticism as Alesha got. A professional may please the die hards on this thread but it may not register with the masses.
jazzyjake
02-01-2012
Originally Posted by Chris1964:
“Its a curious situation. The BBC must have known there would have been a strong chance she would get flack for lack of deep dance knowledge when they offered her the job. Both Alesha and the Beeb both toughed it out and for me at least she started to fit with the show-and the show has a very different feel now. However the underlying knowledge issue was always there and probably Alesha was always going to be a better fit for something like BGT than SCD-Im therefore not surprised she has gone.

SCD is big business now-the BBC want a big name as a judge to keep up the momentum and the press interest. And yet a non-dance choice will invite the same criticism as Alesha got. A professional may please the die hards on this thread but it may not register with the masses.”

Whilst she was good this year, i don't think she will be hard to replace.

That said, it will be very interesting too see who she does under good old Uncle Simon. I wonder if she will boom from joining BGT, or if she will bust, Christine Bleakley style. I really dunno which one it will be.

Problem with BGT is, it's all too forgettable. Nobody remembers Amanda Holden until BGT is on.
lucy mane
02-01-2012
I read she is was being paid buttons at the BBC and Cowell offered her a big money contract.
No brainier really. Happens everyday across the country in workplaces.
jazzyjake
02-01-2012
Originally Posted by lucy mane:
“I read she is was being paid buttons at the BBC and Cowell offered her a big money contract.
No brainier really. Happens everyday across the country in workplaces.”

If 100k is buttons then i would love that any-day.

Also how much is Simon Cowell paying them?

1million a series?
lundavra
02-01-2012
Originally Posted by lucy mane:
“I read she is was being paid buttons at the BBC and Cowell offered her a big money contract.
No brainier really. Happens everyday across the country in workplaces.”

I wonder if there will be a backlash from the public as with Christine Bleakley's move? She is popular on the show except for a noisy minority here. I can see the move could be better for her singing career and she will be much richer but Bleakley shows that a move for big money can go down badly with the public.
Dorabella14
02-01-2012
Well, it costs about that much for hair and nails!
Actually, after income tax, it comes down to peanuts, really
lucy mane
02-01-2012
Originally Posted by jazzyjake:
“If 100k is buttons then i would love that any-day.

Also how much is Simon Cowell paying them?

1million a series?”

A lot more that 100k is what is rumoured. Cowell will give her the platform to launch her music career again on his shows like he did with Cheryl. Alesha seen a new career opportunity /money and went for it. People do it all the time like Bruce Forsytht moving to ITV from the BBC 30 years ago.
sammyvine
02-01-2012
Originally Posted by lucy mane:
“A lot more that 100k is what is rumoured. Cowell will give her the platform to launch her music career again on his shows like he did with Cheryl. Alesha seen a new career opportunity /money and went for it. People do it all the time like Bruce Forsytht moving to ITV from the BBC 30 years ago.”

No way will Simon offer her a platform. Personally i think her music career is dead. At her age it is hard to make a comeback unless you are super talented. I mean the likes of Whitney Houston and Toni Braxton have struggled to get back in the business. Also Simon hasn't seemed to have helped Nicole Sherzinger's (sp) Career. To add BGT isn't the same as the XFactor. It's a lesser show and has less appeal. Unless it does really well, it won't surprise me if he removes the show after this series and brings another of his rubbish forward.
ChipChomper
02-01-2012
Have to be totally honest so glad she's gone.
it was like Emma Bunton being on DOI it made no sense her being there.
I really hope they bring back Arlene.
penelopesimpson
02-01-2012
Originally Posted by lucy mane:
“A lot more that 100k is what is rumoured. Cowell will give her the platform to launch her music career again on his shows like he did with Cheryl. Alesha seen a new career opportunity /money and went for it. People do it all the time like Bruce Forsytht moving to ITV from the BBC 30 years ago.”

I think you have Simon Cowell muddled up with Mother Teresa!
Fatima502
02-01-2012
I say good luck to her, though she needs to keep in mind what happened to Kelly Brook and Cheryl Cole, both widely announced as judges on Cowell shows, then ditched unceremoniously.
lucy mane
02-01-2012
Originally Posted by sammyvine:
“No way will Simon offer her a platform. Personally i think her music career is dead. At her age it is hard to make a comeback unless you are super talented. I mean the likes of Whitney Houston and Toni Braxton have struggled to get back in the business. Also Simon hasn't seemed to have helped Nicole Sherzinger's (sp) Career. To add BGT isn't the same as the XFactor. It's a lesser show and has less appeal. Unless it does really well, it won't surprise me if he removes the show after this series and brings another of his rubbish forward.”

She is 33 not 48 lol. Nicole's career is hot in the UK. Do you follow the charts?
He will pimp her out on all of his shows like he did with Cheryl and Nicole.
sammyvine
02-01-2012
Originally Posted by lucy mane:
“She is 33 not 48 lol. Nicole's career is hot in the UK. Do you follow the charts?
He will pimp her out on all of his shows like he did with Cheryl and Nicole.”

Where is she In the US?
lucy mane
02-01-2012
Originally Posted by sammyvine:
“Where is she In the US?”

We will find out this month when her album is out. She has made a career for herself in the UK even if she flops in the US.
Unigal07
02-01-2012
Pathetic. You all slag her off constantly because you don't like her as a judge, she leaves for another job and now it's all "bitch!! Poor BBC!"

I think the BBC will get over it. It's win win. Alesha moves on to a new job to which she will be more suited, and the BBC can bring in a new, more appropriately qualified judge for Strictly. So I dont understand the petty bitching and whinging.
skp20040
02-01-2012
Originally Posted by Bear Trader:
“Last summer there were rumours that she was going to XF. She denied it saying her future lies with SCD and she cant see herself leaving. The rumours had some truth to it as Alesha was in secret talks with Simon.

BBC stuck their neck out for her when they could had fired her for the pitiful perfromance she had given over the years.

All the while she was planning to jumpship for the rival group. She said she wants to be the next Oprah, Who is she going to have has her guests? XF rejects”

I don't see how a person choosing before they have been offered a contract for another series to inform her prospective employer that she will be taking another position is back stabbing ? She hasn't walked out whilst contracted or told the BBC she will never work for them again has she ?
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