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Jorgie - very good bet to win
Abigail88
03-01-2012
On the website it says she has already been mastering tricky lifts; she will have bundles of personality as well.

She is far far down the odds, and is at 14/1 with bookies. I think she could win, just a gut feeling. Might go down to the bookies and put a tenner on
Vodka_Drinka
03-01-2012
I;d put you're money on Jennifer Ellison instead. She's a former ballerina. I'd be very surprised if she's anything less than very, very good on the ice.
bloodynora
03-01-2012
I would think Chemmy Alcott would be quite good as well!
Tiger Rose
03-01-2012
Originally Posted by Vodka_Drinka:
“I;d put you're money on Jennifer Ellison instead. She's a former ballerina. I'd be very surprised if she's anything less than very, very good on the ice.”

And Jeremy Sheffield trained with the Royal Ballet. Being a good dancer does not automatically mean you will be good on the ice.
*Sparkle*
03-01-2012
From what I've seen of Jennifer, she's already a much better skater than Jeremy ever managed. I think he presumed he'd be good at skating, but he never quite managed to make the transition, whereas Jennifer is taking it very seriously, and I think it determined to do her best. I felt Jeremy didn't really try, but age and a fear of injury seemed to be a factor too.

I think she'll easily get through the early weeks based on her profile and ability to hold herself well, and I'm pretty sure she'll make sure her skating gets up to scratch. There are no guarantees she'll be a great, natural skater, but I'd be very surprised if she can't be a very competent skater who can interpret the music well and look great in hold.
alij
03-01-2012
The difference between a male dancer trying to skate and a female is that Jennifer will have been trained in how to be lifted which is probably a much more transferable skill than having been trained in how to lift, i.e. having skates on the end of your feet won't make as much difference for the lifted as opposed to the lifter
kellykapowski
03-01-2012
Originally Posted by alij:
“The difference between a male dancer trying to skate and a female is that Jennifer will have been trained in how to be lifted which is probably a much more transferable skill than having been trained in how to lift, i.e. having skates on the end of your feet won't make as much difference for the lifted as opposed to the lifter”

There is some truth to that but being lifted is not as easy as it looks (I'm a former pairs skater and can attest to the difficulty involved). Jeremy just wasn't good at skating but Jennifer seems to have taken to it a little easier.
*Sparkle*
03-01-2012
Originally Posted by kellykapowski:
“There is some truth to that but being lifted is not as easy as it looks (I'm a former pairs skater and can attest to the difficulty involved).”

I'm sure it is hard, but I don't think anyone was claiming she'd be alright because she's a woman being lifted, more that she's got substantial experience of dancing and being lifted will therefore come more easily to her than to most of the other women.

As a male dancer come skater, there's no getting away from being a solid skater. Even if Jeremy could do the lifts with ease on dry land, he didn't have the stability or skills to lift someone whlist skating. As a woman who is good at being lifted on dry land, you only need to be a so-so skater to get away with it. The take-offs and landings might be a bit clunky, but you can get away with it.

Of all of the women on the show, she's probably the one who will come into it the best at being lifted. That doesn't diminish the skill of being lifted, but merely acknowledges that she was (and presumably still is) a very talented dancer.

I happen to think she's a better skater than him anyway. I feel a bit sorry for Jeremy, as he'll always be remembered as someone who we all expected to be good, but wasn't. However, he does serve as a reminder to all of us, and to the contestants, that there's a lot more to dancing on ice than being a dancer with some ice skates.
alij
03-01-2012
Originally Posted by kellykapowski:
“There is some truth to that but being lifted is not as easy as it looks (I'm a former pairs skater and can attest to the difficulty involved). Jeremy just wasn't good at skating but Jennifer seems to have taken to it a little easier.”

Hi I did some pairs skating too and a little ice dance so know it isn't' easy, but as Sparkle said I was referring to the fact that as Jennifer is a trained ballerina she knows how to be lifted which will be an undoubted advantage particularly at the level the lifts are for DOI which tend to rely on the strength of the male skaters and the ability of the female celeb to make pretty lines.

I also agree from bits we have seen she does seem to have taken to skating generally better than Jeremy
Order
08-01-2012
I regret not having a bet on her now!

I thought she'd be average and finish mid-series but she's definitely a contender for the win.
Abigail88
09-01-2012
Well now she's fave to win
Glad I put a bet on
Tiggergirl
09-01-2012
I'll reserve judgement until everyone has skated you can't make a definite decision until next weeks celebs have skated too as there could be a standout skater in that group and I think Week 3 is the one to start looking out for potential winners from once those left are all together
petertard
09-01-2012
She has a wonderful ease of movement over the ice and seems to glide effortlessly. I think she is as good or better than Claire Buckfield or Ray Quinn in terms of first performance.
stash22
09-01-2012
her training video looked good so I stuck a tenner on her -14/1. Was going to add some on but her odds started to fall and decided against it. But I would think Jennifer could still be a contender, and Matthew definitely is.
Tiger Rose
09-01-2012
On ability she's right up here but will she get the votes? Also the danger could come as she was so good week 1. Chemmy by contrast is already a good skater but has an obvious area to improve in terms of finesse.
whoyouarexo
09-01-2012
I think she'll go a long way. Shes got the cute bubbly personality, determination, shes enjoying it, shes good.

I think she will get the votes if she carries on being the same, shes definitely one of the most publicised and popular members of the hollyoaks cast.

think I might have to get a bet placed on her to win aswell!
The Tobester
09-01-2012
She was brilliant, however, just one small point against her, I didn't like her cocky reaction to being put through. She just nodded as if it was a done thing, didn't go down well with me.
Sez_babe
09-01-2012
I don't think she'll be the best - there's still next week. However, she was brilliant last night
welwynrose
09-01-2012
Originally Posted by Abigail88:
“Well now she's fave to win
Glad I put a bet on”

So did I
MrsRobinson
09-01-2012
I like Jorgie and she seems fearless! Some good skaters so far....
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