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Thursday 19th January overnights:
BBC1 13:45 Doctors 1.66m (20.5%) 19:30 EastEnders 8.92m (39.3%) peaked at 9.4m 20:00 Earthflight 3.91m (15.9%) 21:00 MasterChef 4.49m (18.4%) ITV 19:00 Emmerdale 7.6m (34.5%) 19:30 Tonight 2.35m (10.3%) 20:00 Emmerdale 7.62m (31.9%) +199k on +1 20:30 Corrie 8.7m (34.4%) +248k on +1 21:00 Eternal Law 2.98m (12.3%) + 128k on +1 BBC2 19:00 Live snooker 1.05m (4.7%) 20:00 Edward VII: Prince of Pleasure 1.63m (6.6%) 21:00 Putin, Russia and the West 1.33m (5.5%) +57k on HD 22:00 Never Mind the Buzzcocks 1.15m (5.9%). C4 18:00 The Simpsons 1.87m (inc+1) 18:30 Hollyoaks 1.09m (5.2%) 20:00 Location, Location, Location 2.1m (8.6%) +1: 263k 21:00 Restoration Man got 2.05m (8.4%) +1: 253k 22:00 Gypsy Blood took 2.01m (13.1%) +1: 281k Five 13:45 Neighbours 681k (8.3%) 17:30 Neighbours 1.13m (6.8%) 18:00 Home & Away 886k (4.5%) 19:00 Police Interceptors 806k (3.6%) 20:00 World's Greatest Heroes 782k (3.2%) 21:00 Celebrity Big Brother 2.21m (9.1%) 22:00 Celebrity Big Brother's Bit on the Side 782k (4.5%) BBC One 21.2% ITV1 20.2% (+1: 0.6%). Channel 4 7.9% (+1: 0.9%) BBC Two 5.5% Channel 5 5.1% Multichannels: E4 19:00 Hollyoaks 499k (2.3%) 20:00 The Big Bang Theory 637k (2.7%) 5* 18:30 Home & Away 487k (2.3%) Sky One: 21:00 Mad Dogs 857k (3.5%) peaked at 1m down on season 1 premiere of 967k (4%) More 4: 21:00 The Good Wife 290k |
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Danny Cohen is certainly taking the piss with the MC scheduling of late. Hopefully it will sink below 4m tonight, teach them a lesson?
I also suspect this high profile scheduling is to appease Shine, who must have been furious after the massive cock-up with Celebrity MC. How long it will continue to succeed is a moot point - it's not really hard much in the way of competition. How it would fare against the likes of Midsomer Murders remains to be seen. If anyone needed teaching a lesson, it's ITV drama: who on earth thought commissioning Eternal Law was a good idea? So relieved to see that stone sinking ... |
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Possibly, but I've always said share of the audicence shouldn't be based on the amount of people watching all channels at that moment, but should be based on total percentage of the population watching the programme.....
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Weird how 5 has a lower share yesterday than the day before, despite adding 200k to CBB.....
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I'd've said the MC scheduling was a success this week - not a massive one, by any stretch of the imagination, but it still won its slot on three consecutive nights.
I also suspect this high profile scheduling is to appease Shine, who must have been furious after the massive cock-up with Celebrity MC. How long it will continue to succeed is a moot point - it's not really hard much in the way of competition. How it would fare against the likes of Midsomer Murders remains to be seen. If anyone needed teaching a lesson, it's ITV drama: who on earth thought commissioning Eternal Law was a good idea? So relieved to see that stone sinking ...
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Do we know how many +1 added for CBB?
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Do we know how many +1 added for CBB?
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Ireland's Top 20 Shows 2011:
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RTE= 18/20 shows and 47 of the Top 50 shows pity Love/Hate didn't make the Top 20, I wouldn't say it was far off, brilliant Irish drama and has already been sold to Scotland & Australia, it's our "Downton", newspaper wise, ITV should snap it up Tv3 3 of the top 50 |
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From Danny Cohen http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/lat...annycohen.html Quote:
At the heart of this will be a major refreshment of BBC One’s Drama offering in 2012, with over twenty new drama commissions slated to transmit. This is an unprecedented injection of fresh energy and creativity in to BBC One's drama output, and reflects Ben Stephenson and my desire to offer audiences the most vibrant and original home-grown drama in Britain. You can see clips from some of these new dramas alongside this blog. I hope they reflect the potent mix of contemporary and period pieces we have to offer in the coming months - from the beautifully delivered and emotionally compelling Call The Midwife and Birdsong, to the modern-day energy of The Syndicate, Prisoners' Wives and Inside Men. We also have plans for a wide range of Factual projects to stimulate and delight audiences. In Natural History, we will launch a major new innovative project - Planet Earth Live - that will tell the global story of animals around the world at a key moment in the breeding season.
In History, Jeremy Paxman returns to BBC One with a major new landmark series - Paxman's Empire, and we will tell the story of Bomber Command with the help of Ewan and Colin McGregor. In Documentaries, BBC One has two Seasons planned for the coming months - a Disability Season, and a Crime Season that will include a close look at the work of Forensics and new police capture techniques. In popular science, we will offer Super Clever Animals - a series with amazing insights in to the human-like intelligence of some extraordinary creatures; whilst Britain's Favourite Supermarket Foods will unlock the scientific secrets of the products we buy most often. |
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2.4m for CBB with +1. Highest since last Thursday.
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Ireland's Top 20 Shows 2011:
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RTE= 18/20 shows and 47 of the Top 50 shows pity Love/Hate didn't make the Top 20, I wouldn't say it was far off, brilliant Irish drama and has already been sold to Scotland & Australia, it's our "Downton", newspaper wise, ITV should snap it up Tv3 3 of the top 50 it's good by RTE standards, but some fairly ropey acting in parts.
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All credit to ITV for commissioning something a bit different.Don't forget both OFAH and Monty Python were dismissed by critics when they started - and the Daily Mirror said Coronation Street would only last three weeks
![]() I'd love ITV to commission something different - but the drama executives at ITV hate anything cult/sci-fi. They don't understand it - which is precisely why they left Ashley Pharoah and Matthew Graham to their own devices. And look at the mess they - and we - have ended up with. Did nobody at ITV think about the fact there is nobody for the audience to identify with among the central characters? Why should we care about them? Plus the success rate of cult/sci-fi shows on mainstream channels is pretty low: only Torchwood has bucked the trend and that was [1] a spin-off of Doctor Who and [2] nurtured on other channels before hitting BBC One. Mainstream audiences want something familiar which will surprise them at the same time. A tall order, but both Sherlock and Call The Midwife have worked in that respect. I wish EL had been a hit as it might mean we'd have fewer dramas on ITV1 which look like very obvious clones of other shows. What its failure signals is that we should expect more from the recycling bin and less imaginative, thought-provoking series. |
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If the live feed gets 300,000 without a twist or anything, all they have to do is a small twist or task to get 500,000 as long as they mention it like last night.
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Didn't see this one coming...
American Idol premiered down 18% in total viewers and skewed considerably older, losing 27% of its 18-49 audience vs last seasons premiere. Quote:
Its down 27% but tbf its coming off a massive year (dejavu comments) but still a big big drop.
Having said that I was always of the opinion that it was going to be this year (rather than last year) that would be the real test for Idol. Following on from The X Factor (and Cowell's return to television on that) and then The Voice on NBC as well it was always going to be a bigger challenge than last year. This'll also add more weight to the 'audiences are tired of 2 hour reality competition/talent show blocks' that are coming primarily out of CBS (the only network that doesn't have one). We'll see what happens as we continue through the rest of the season though. Quote:
Yes, if you didn't see 101 Ways To Leave A Gameshow, imagine if, when the contestants got to the Big Balls on Total Wipeout, they then spent five minutes talking about what they thought about the Big Balls, then didn't go on them anyway. It was awful. It might have worked if we'd not had Total Wipeout, where seeing one person fall in water might have had some kind of novelty factor. It did alright in America, though, didn't it, presumably as the US hour meant it had to hurry the hell up.
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The Voice is filming at Television Centre today - getting a good reception from a few showbiz journalists who are there.
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There is a singing talent show fatigue in America at the moment with Idol, X Factor and The Voice all being shown in the space of 6 months. What is rather shocking is that a 7.2 launch for Idol means it'll be settling into the 5-6s mid-season, only a little more than what Modern Family and The Big Bang Theory are getting! The days of Idol completely dominating and towering over the opposition are well and truly over. NCIS will probably be the Number 1 most watched programme in total viewers in a couple of week's time, which is quite astonishing when you think about it. I bet no one saw that coming 5 years ago
.Of course the wild card in all of this remains The Voice. I think more than ever Fox have got to be genuinely concerned about how the second season of that is going to pan out on NBC. It'll obviously get a big launch from the Super Bowl and if it can hold onto a decent percentage of those viewers it could do some serious damage to Idol this season. How many viewers are going to watch 5+ hours of singing competition a week and how many of them are going to chose one and pass on the other? Quote:
The specially invited hacks all tweeting wildly about The Voice? They know what side their bread is buttered on...
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This was reported in 2006.
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/media/ne...g-brother.html I wonder if given the numbers Channel 5 are getting with the show.ITV would think again about picking up the format.It doesnt seem quite the lame Duck Channel 4 would like people to think it was. ITV seem to be just hopping from DOI to BGT to TXF with a bit of DA thrown in for good Measure. On the subject of Big Brother being a lame duck I think Channel 4 were probably right on that. The celebrity version hasn't done badly but the regular version hardly set the world alight. They might very well have been able to get another couple of diminished years out of the show but I doubt it would have done much more than that. Again people are assuming that these levels represent the ceiling specifically on Five and not just the ceiling for Big Brother in general. You've got to remember that the show had gone from pulling spectacular figures on 4 to the disappointing numbers it was doing in its final years. There's no way it was going to magically rebound back from that (and it hasn't on Five). |
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All credit to ITV for commissioning something a bit different.Don't forget both OFAH and Monty Python were dismissed by critics when they started - and the Daily Mirror said Coronation Street would only last three weeks
![]() The concept sounds like something a bit different and interesting but the execution of it hasn't been. Its occupied this weird middle ground where its desperately tried to look different whilst also desperately trying to be familiar and comfortable and ultimately all that does is alienate the entire audience. Its almost as if someone at ITV wanted to take a risk and then got very cold feet about it at the last minute and tried to reduce the risk by throwing in lots of familiar and paint by numbers elements. Actually if I'm being completely honest about it with a couple of exceptions I think ITV have become far to preoccupied with trying to ape US drama (presumably with half an eye on selling at least the formats to the US) rather than create anything good. Eternal Law is exactly the kind of show that gets pitched every year at US networks although most of them have the sense not to make it. In fact you can probably take that point beyond drama and just to ITV's content in general. For example did they go for Red or Black because they thought it was great or because they thought they'd make a fortune selling the format to other markets? |
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I'm not convinced that Eternal Law is something a bit different and I think that's the problem.
The concept sounds like something a bit different and interesting but the execution of it hasn't been. Its occupied this weird middle ground where its desperately tried to look different whilst also desperately trying to be familiar and comfortable and ultimately all that does is alienate the entire audience. Its almost as if someone at ITV wanted to take a risk and then got very cold feet about it at the last minute and tried to reduce the risk by throwing in lots of familiar and paint by numbers elements. Actually if I'm being completely honest about it with a couple of exceptions I think ITV have become far to preoccupied with trying to ape US drama (presumably with half an eye on selling at least the formats to the US) rather than create anything good. Eternal Law is exactly the kind of show that gets pitched every year at US networks although most of them have the sense not to make it. In fact you can probably take that point beyond drama and just to ITV's content in general. For example did they go for Red or Black because they thought it was great or because they thought they'd make a fortune selling the format to other markets? The only point I'd make is that ITV's drama commissions are not all from ITV - many are from independent producers - and ITV will not have any financial stake in the rights for EL ... they lie with Monastic/Kudos. The aping of US shows is an across-the-board policy. Which is why ITV Studios has a rip-off of Grey's Anatomy in development. You have been warned ... |
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Great post - pretty much agree with every word.
The only point I'd make is that ITV's drama commissions are not all from ITV - many are from independent producers - and ITV will not have any financial stake in the rights for EL ... they lie with Monastic/Kudos. The aping of US shows is an across-the-board policy. Which is why ITV Studios has a rip-off of Grey's Anatomy in development. You have been warned ... Having said that it does make it somewhat ironic that Downton Abbey is their biggest drama success in recent years not only at home but in the US as well given how distinctly British it is. That's not the kind of show you could ever see a US network making by themselves. |
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Well they've already got a rip-off of House so why not Grey's Anatomy. What's a little concerning about all of this though is how behind the curve they seem to be on making these shows. They're aping shows that are either on their last legs or not far off it. I'm half expecting a UK version of Desperate Housewives to appear in the not to distant future. If they're going to insist on looking to America for inspiration on how to make commercial drama they could at least look at the new and successful stuff. Or maybe notice how successful comedy has been in the US as of late (and how obsessed the US networks are with that right now).
Having said that it does make it somewhat ironic their Downton Abbey is their biggest drama success in recent years not only at home but in the US as well given how distinctly British it is. That's not the kind of show you could ever see a US network making by themselves. DA's success in the US is doubtless bolstered by the fact that Carnival, the company that makes it for ITV, is owned by NBC - and it was only NBC backing that made the project affordable for ITV in the first place ... so it has greater American involvement than may be initially obvious.
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DA's success in the US is doubtless bolstered by the fact that Carnival, the company that makes it for ITV, is owned by NBC - and it was only NBC backing that made the project affordable for ITV in the first place ... so it has greater American involvement than may be initially obvious.
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Well done TV3 a fraction of the budget and two in Top 20, some achievement. Love/Hate is hardly in the same league as Downton,
it's good by RTE standards, but some fairly ropey acting in parts. |
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Week 6 schedules update: America's most watched drama series NCIS and Law & Order: Criminal Intent both return to Channel 5.
The exact air dates and times are TBC but they are likely to be paired together on Wednesday nights from the 8th Feb. |
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any1 have the American Idol rating on ITV2 last night please? thanks
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As I have noted before Eternal Law is in no way original. In fact it shares many features with a US show - Touched by an Angel.
The difference is that that show was well made with likeable characters (one of whom was even Irish and played by an actress who had been on UK TV) and had the sense to use the shout line at the start of Eternal Law well. The UK series says that angels are here as everything from bin men to lawyers and in TBAA we saw the main cast adopting different jobs every week to tackle the appropriate situation. Much of the drama came from the angels like Monica facing a range of trials and tribulations in situations as varied as a blind bag lady to a police officer. Instead we get obnoxious lawyers week after week. Not hard to see why one concept works better than the other. They even were lawyers at least once on TBAA but made a virtue out of that being the situation of the week not every week. Just watch any of the reruns of that long running series on CBS Drama and see where they went right and Eternal Law goes wrong. Sadly Eternal Law will not last well over 100 episodes like TBAA did. (In fact it ran for 9 years - 1994 - 2003 - and 212 episodes - doubt you need to be an angel to see Eternal Law will not get close to that record). The shows are similar in several ways - trainee angel/check - fallen angel adversary/check - but they have seemingly forgotten to adopt the elements that made Touched by an Angel grab an audience. Not least, I suspect, that it was a Sunday show that did not disguise references to God as Mr Mountjoy! |
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any1 have the American Idol rating on ITV2 last night please? thanks
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![]() ![]() ![]() Why would the BBC want to do a series like that when they already have Upstairs Downstairs? Why would they let the author of the book co-write the screenplay? That's quite unusual ... Why would they commission a second series as well as a first? The story has a number of telling inaccuracies. Susy Tullett, referred to as a writer on Heartbeat and Doctors, is in fact a publicist. And there isn't a single BBC executive named or quoted throughout. I can't help but wonder if this is a possible development project that someone has decided to big up ... there's something about it that doesn't quite ring true. |
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it's good by RTE standards, but some fairly ropey acting in parts.


