How's the demo doing in comparison to Dancing On Ice, if you have the figures, please?

It's hard for CBS as it's doing well and they need to cancel and end shows to make room for new shows. I think the CSIs are going to end one by one with CSI being the last to end. The Good Wife I think one more season to get to 88 episodes and therefore sydnication, The Mentalist I think is safe for another two seasons especially as it's also nearing syndication as well.

Comedy wise, I think HIMYM will end next season, it was renewed for two more seasons last season and I think the story needs to come to its conclusion as much as I love the show, the reveal needs to happen soon. Two and a Half Men I think is also safe but I do wonder whether Chuck Lorre will want to end it or keep it going for another two-three seasons.

Finals are in, TBBT adjusted up to a 5.3 so it did beat American Idol. For the whole hour, Idol had a 5.7.

Grey's up to a 3.5, The Mentalist up to a 3.0, The Office up to a 3.0. PoI down to a 3.2, Parks down to a 1.9, Rob down to a 3.5.


30 Rock certainly seems to be struggling. The 8pm slot is a tough one but it's doing no better than Community used to.

Parks & Recreation is doing badly by the standards of CBS, FOX and even ABC. But for NBC, a 2.0 (or 1.9 in finals) isn't bad. That's the situation they are in. Law & Order: SVU isn't even reliable for a 2.0 anymore.


It's a tough one. The only 9pm slot I could see it taking for the fall season is Monday night which might work with a weaker DWTS and FOX likely to be launching a new drama in the hour.

DOI has a lot more viewers in the demo for the main show (albeit amounting to a much lower percentage of its total audience), but the Skate Off isn't ahead by much considering it has nearly three times as many viewers overall.

Demo info for DOI is here: http://i43.tinypic.com/2zdtzbb.jpg (credit to rzt)

I always think you should retain your timeslot for at least two seasons (if the show makes it that far) before doing anything with it. After all, the first season success can either be a launch pad to a hit show, or a fluke - resulting in a slump. Grey's Anatomy is a perfect example for its positive outcome. They were a lead-out from Desperate Housewives and greatly benefited. Their retention from DH was very strong, thus convincing ABC to move the show to Thursday at 9pm, back when Thursday was very competitive with 20m+ on regular basis. Mind you, GA's first and second season was after DH. Third season onwards, they were on their own and doing fine.

Castle is one of those shows which still needs a lead-in, especially after DWTS. Their retention is better than last season and the ratings catches on now. Having said that, they only manage to attract 55-60% of DWTS audiences. Getting around 2.3-2.5 doesn't really help either. They are on their fourth season. Private Practice after Grey's has not had a good retention since mid season 4.

So, even if Smash does hit around 3.0+, I don't think NBC would tamper with it only after their first season. Unless it retains more than 80% of The Voice or get figures better than a 3.5 (and that is a big ask for a NBC scripted shows now), I cannot see it going anywhere.

Of course, the BIG question is, how will Birdsong perform on Sunday, AND, will Call The Midwife get another 8 million viewers?

Thanks to you and rzt. The younger audience appears to abandon the show for The Skate Off.

Possibly the best BB night ever.
I hope it gets strong ratings, both the first and the second show.

Maybe the moral is to just not bother with breakfast show revamps? The numbers for the first week of CBS' revamped breakfast show aren't good.

NBC - The Today Show - 5.5m (2.4m aged 25-54)
* Down 6% in total viewers and 10% in adults 25-54
ABC - Good Morning America - 4.9m (2.0m)
* Up 3% in total viewers and up 10% in adults 25-54
* Smallest demo margin between NBC & ABC in 2 years
CBS - CBS This Morning - 2.7m (1.1m)
* Down 10% in total viewers and 13% in adults 25-54

http://www.deadline.com/hollywood/

Also from Deadline, NBC finished 8th at 10pm last night with original scripted content (The Firm which drew a 0.9 rating). Jersey Shore was top (3.5) followed by CBS and ABC. Basketball on TNT, a rerun of The Big Bang Theory on TBS, something on Spanish language channel Univision and Beyond Scared Straight on ABC all topped The Firm among adults 18-49.

http://www.deadline.com/2012/01/ouch...hursday-10-pm/

there is a new Aussie Breakfast show coming soon as well, this time on TEN.

Still not like CBS to fail at something.

As for CBS generally wouldnt be surprised to one of the CSIs ended this series, CSI NY being the most likely. No way CSI itself will end this season.

I saw that Daily Mirror front page in a shop this morning, and I almost laughed out loud. Funniest thing since his publicity photos with the half open shirt and giant sunglasses for X Factor in America.

CBS will stick with CBS This Morning, given the dominance of Today and GMA, it's difficult for them to make much of a dent. News and daytime as well as late night is an area which NBC still dominates and CBS lags behind.

I do love a good shock result Salv but tonight we were spoiled with not one but two jaw-dropping exits! It can only be a good thing for the numbers.

The only thing which spoiled it was how completely out of touch the eviction crowd were once again with the opinion of the voters. Anyone who embraces the game element or is even slightly argumentative becomes a villain figure, even when these characters tend to be the most watchable and entertaining in the house. That's frustrating for me and confusing for them.

How embarrassing for NBC.

dont tell me Frankie has gone, my money* is on him to win this.

* ok no actual money

The scheduling for Wednesday's double eviction on Celebrity Big Brother is horrible. They are basically repeating what they did tonight but with a much weaker programme in between in that Jodie Marsh doc, which probably won't get that much of a boost anyway especially with live feed keeping some of the viewers occupied on 5*.

They might be able to get away with 11pm shows on a Friday, but midweek is a different kettle of fish altogether. It's far too late, and I could see that second show really struggling! I really hope they see sense and merge the two shows to make one 90 minute programme from 9pm with the documentary and live feed after at 10:30pm, but I bet they won't.

Nope Kirk and Natalie went.

CBB this year has to be one of the best ever series.

Actually this year's and last year's has to be the top 2.

Denise or Gareth to win!!!

I hope last night had at least 2.5million.

According to Steve Moffatt in The Guardian, some scenes for Series 3 of Sherlock have already been filmed and it could be back before the end of 2012.

Agreed.


How do you work that one out? Bit On The Side rates near 1m when there's an eviction, because of the extra casual viewers tuning in, so..... An eviction at 11pm could easily get 1.5m and win the slot.....


I am glad you agree with me. Channel 5 have pumped a hell of a lot of money into this to keep it fresh.

Ratings have only gone down because the Channel 5 stigma is starting to kick in.

The few weeks we had between BB 2011 and CBB 2012 I went reading through a hell of a lot of forum threads with BB and noticed how some people who shall remain nameless were all for BB on Channel 4 but the day that Channel 5 confirmed they were doing new cycles, a few of these members started the "Oh it's going on Channel 5 it will be rubbish" lines.....

It's on Channel 5..... It's good..... It's better than Channel Snore..... Wake up and get over it people.....

Liam Hamilton

Yet they said 4m was too low for My Family to continue when the new Room 101 gets 0.3m less? The BBC really are strange.....

On the RPG I thought Room 101 was on BBC2 (as it was for many years) and went for 1.7m! To be honest I wouldn't have gone more than 3.0m even on BBC1, so 3.7m against CS is pretty acceptable on a Friday night.

You have a point, I know some people may say that Room 101 is cheaper to produce, but then we'll have to see where ratings go from here to see whether it was a good idea for them to bring it back.....

3.7m in the 20:30 slot is actually quite good for Room 101 against Coronation Street in a slot that has struggled in the past.