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#276 |
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Clearly there are various failsafes in the system to try and identify this, although before a panellists even joins the panel there wiill be asked whether they have any connection with a broadcaster, so they clearly lied from the off. There are viewing algorthms that identify strange viewing behaviours so its a shame she hasn't been identified.
you are correct, BARB does not measure viewing in pubs.....no-ones asked them or given them money to.... |
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I would suggest therefore that virtually all TV audiences for football matches (and other major sporting events) are larger than BARB records as there is a significant amount of viewing in pubs (while I doubt many people watch EastEnders in a pub).
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Trickytree - do you have the figured for who watched Downton "live" and who watch later but before 2am on Christmas Day?
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So, 7.52m watched live, 0.985m watched later before 2am giving a Live+VOSDAL of 8.51m.
![]() How does the compare with EastEnders and Absolutely Fabulous? Suggests a lot started watching about ~10pm to finish about ~11:30pm.
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Strange really, you can talk to people at work and the majority have seen the same programme the night before although it barely makes the ratings; a programme almost tops the ratings and virtually no-one appears to have seen it
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That's a lot of VOSDAL!! Do you have the platform breakdown of the VOSDAL viewers?
Analogue terrestrial - 2.7926 Digital terrestrial - 319.4308 Digital satellite - 1106.9705 Digital cable - 470.7971 Other Platforms - 9.3607 |
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So Doctor who had:
10.8m + 1.3m + 0.5m + 0.7m (iPlayer requests) = 13.3m Live +7 figures (taking into account repeat viewers and duplicate iPlayer) suggest: 10.8m + 1.2m + 0.4m + 0.45m (actual iPlayer) = 12.85m Just a rough guide of course
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Shame Something For The Weekend is being axed its the only decent to watch on a Sunday morning.
Now will have to look for something else but its all cartons and soaps on the other channels at that time. |
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I would suggest therefore that virtually all TV audiences for football matches (and other major sporting events) are larger than BARB records as there is a significant amount of viewing in pubs (while I doubt many people watch EastEnders in a pub).
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So, 7.52m watched live, 0.985m watched later before 2am giving a Live+VOSDAL of 8.51m.
That's a lot of potential viewers skipping adverts
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For relevance seeing as there's not much else to talk about from my post here: http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...postcount=1688 Quote:
Downton Abbey - 5-Minute Overnight Breakdown My estimate of 600k not watching live wasn't far off. Plus, in the actual overnights, it was 8.46m (30.43%) excluding commercials versus 7.69m (27.95%) for commercials only. 21:00 - 8.60m (29.4%) 21:05 - 8.91m (30.0%) 21:10 - 8.67m (29.5%) 21:15 - 7.77m (26.7%) <-- commercial, drop of 900k then 1.00m increase 21:20 - 8.77m (29.2%) 21:25 - 8.83m (29.5%) 21:30 - 8.69m (29.0%) 21:35 - 7.71m (26.1%) <-- commercial, drop of 980k then 820k increase 21:40 - 8.53m (28.4%) 21:45 - 8.62m (28.7%) 21:50 - 7.63m (26.0%) <-- commercial, drop of 990k, then 790k increase 21:55 - 8.42m (28.1%) 22:00 - 8.42m (29.4%) 22:05 - 7.72m (28.4%) <-- commercial, drop of 700k, then 370k increase 22:10 - 8.09m (29.9%) 22:15 - 8.33m (30.9%) 22:20 - 8.14m (30.8%) 22:25 - 7.57m (29.2%) <-- commercial, drop of 570k, then 660k increase 22:30 - 8.23m (31.6%) 22:35 - 8.04m (32.0%) 22:40 - 7.74m (31.3%) <-- commercial, drop of 300k, then 590k increase 22:45 - 8.33m (33.7%) 22:50 - 8.33m (33.9%) 22:55 - 8.32m (33.7%) Regardless Andy of "potential viewers skipping adverts", 7.69m is 3.5 million more than what they would have had if you replace Downton with Poriot.
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Regardless Andy of "potential viewers skipping adverts", 7.69m is 3.5 million more than what they would have had if you replace Downton with Poriot.
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the skipping adverts isnt totally true. The last advert in the break has increased value and even the fast fwded adverts still do get watched by viewers at a speeded up rate. Since they have seen the advert at normal speed previously, the value of the advert at fast forward is not dimished by much
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the skipping adverts isnt totally true. The last advert in the break has increased value and even the fast fwded adverts still do get watched by viewers at a speeded up rate. Since they have seen the advert at normal speed previously, the value of the advert at fast forward is not dimished by much
Sponsorship has probably increased in value as its an increasingly sought after slot. |
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US Midseason
New shows and returning shows can change things for the networks and the executives will be talking up their chances at the Television Critics Association Winter Tour.
Fall Ratings (vs last year): #1 - CBS - 3.3 (+5%), 12.5m (+1%) #1 - FOX - 3.3 (+14%), 9.0m (+15%) #3 - ABC - 2.6 (-4%), 9.1m (-1%) #4 - NBC - 2.5 (-11%), 7.3m (-11%) CBS powers along with their Monday and Thursday comedy blocks driving higher ratings in the fall. Not to mention the great number for their NCIS block on Tuesdays and Criminal Minds on Wednesdays. They've also got the #1 new show, Two Broke Girls. FOX have a rare tie for #1 in the fall. X Factor, baseball and New Girl more than making up for substantial declines in House and Glee. To be up 14% is an exceptional performance for a network these days. Once again, they'll easily be #1 for the season thanks to the imminent return of American Idol. ABC was hit by big declines for some returning series, especially Dancing With The Stars. But their Wednesday line-up improved significantly with returning series up and Suburgatory and Revenge delivering good numbers so far. Once Upon A Time and Last Man Standing have been other useful additions that have helped to limit its annual decline to a respectable 4%. Nothing respectable about NBC. Even with record numbers from Sunday Night Football, they're down 11%. Every other night has major problems and Up All Night is the only possible new success so far (and a fairly modest one at that). A lot of hype around The Voice, Smash and The Firm as well as others like Awake (not yet scheduled). Could this midseason herald one of the biggest network revivals in years? |
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So, 7.52m watched live, 0.985m watched later before 2am giving a Live+VOSDAL of 8.51m.
I don't understand. |
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Cheers. So an overall timeshift of around 4.5m for Downton then.
That's a lot of potential viewers skipping adverts ![]() Code:
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It depends on the technology in use. Our PVR has "skip" buttons, currently set at 3m/1m/30s/-15s, so a quick press of 3+1 usually gets from the start to the end of the ads almost spot on, with just the sponsorship to be seen.
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But the reported overnight was 8.13m not 8.51m.
I don't understand. When the officials come out, BARB strip out all the commerical minutes and so you can get in effect a different and higher live+vosdal figure. Does this make sense? |
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New shows and returning shows can change things for the networks and the executives will be talking up their chances at the Television Critics Association Winter Tour.
Fall Ratings (vs last year): #1 - CBS - 3.3 (+5%), 12.5m (+1%) #1 - FOX - 3.3 (+14%), 9.0m (+15%) #3 - ABC - 2.6 (-4%), 9.1m (-1%) #4 - NBC - 2.5 (-11%), 7.3m (-11%) Nothing respectable about NBC. Even with record numbers from Sunday Night Football, they're down 11%. Every other night has major problems and Up All Night is the only possible new success so far (and a fairly modest one at that). A lot of hype around The Voice, Smash and The Firm as well as others like Awake (not yet scheduled). Could this midseason herald one of the biggest network revivals in years? |
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Regardless Andy of "potential viewers skipping adverts", 7.69m is 3.5 million more than what they would have had if you replace Downton with Poriot. ![]() Would Poirot have gotten 3.5/4.5m more viewers on another night? Quote:
the skipping adverts isnt totally true. The last advert in the break has increased value and even the fast fwded adverts still do get watched by viewers at a speeded up rate. Since they have seen the advert at normal speed previously, the value of the advert at fast forward is not dimished by much
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We'll still be talking about Christmas Day 2011's ratings come December...
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And the award for missing the point goes to ....
Would Poirot have gotten 3.5/4.5m more viewers on another night? |
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Here are the minute by minute time shifted audiences....clearly there is a heavy mixture of skipping the ads, or if they're watching via on deman catchup, no ads to skip if you see what I mean. Sadly, BARB at the moment, cannot split out PVR time-shift and on-demand time shift.
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I'm just gonna take BARB's official ratings as face value.
For me, Eastenders won it. |
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