The Ratings Thread (Part 30)

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cylon6

11-01-2012

Originally Posted by allthingsuk:
“Excellent news. I suspect the number of episodes will be cut to around 40 instead of 48-49 episodes. And going back to basics is great - they're not tampering with a formula that so clearly works. And viewing figures were great when they last had a revamp for the start of Series 22 in September 2007; some episodes in that series hit 8 million and the highest was 8.47 million (the last time it went over 10 million was 2004), so it shows Casualty's potential and there is heaps of life left in this show.”

I agree.

The number of episodes are being cut and not the budget. More event episodes, more promotion Casualty could get more viewers. I think there is the potential for Casualty to grow its audience and make a bigger impact with fewer episodes but more focused on watercooler moments. We'll soon see.

Charnham

11-01-2012

Originally Posted by cylon6:
“I agree.

The number of episodes are being cut and not the budget. More event episodes, more promotion Casualty could get more viewers. I think there is the potential for Casualty to grow its audience and make a bigger impact with fewer episodes but more focused on watercooler moments. We'll soon see.”

I hope that is the case as well.

One thing I will say however, is that it cant keep almost blowing up Holby, as that kind of thing is going to seem absent when Holby City airs, and its unfair for Casualty to keeping forcing Holby City to reference it. More to the point Casualty can not afford Kiefer Sutherland to keep saving Holby. 24: Holby being the logical spin-off of 24

C14E

11-01-2012

Originally Posted by cylon6:
“As for BBC3, I knew that was happening when Controller Zai Bennett alluded to it on Points Of View. Very sad to see though. ”

I was a bit surprised that he ever left ITV - their digital channels have been going from strength to strength and he had a far wider remit (overseeing ITV2, ITV3, ITV4 and all US acquisitions). Looks like he might have a tough job at BBC3 not to mention the continuing questions over its future.

jake lyle

11-01-2012

Originally Posted by C14E:
“I was a bit surprised that he ever left ITV - their digital channels have been going from strength to strength and he had a far wider remit (overseeing ITV2, ITV3, ITV4 and all US acquisitions).”

Mmm overseeing the spend of £87m on original Comedy, Drama and Factual shows like a proper channel boss or overseeing the scheduling of crime drama Repeats, films and Peter Andre documentarys.

However did he decide

Originally Posted by C14E:
“ Looks like he might have a tough job at BBC3 not to mention the continuing questions over its future.”

Where?

jake lyle

11-01-2012

Originally Posted by Jonwo:
“Empire seems to be sitting on the shelf, Upstairs Downstairs will probably air on February 5th so Empire will likely air after that in March or April. Marr also has History of the World but I don't that is going to air until 2013.”

We will have a hissy fit from Paxo any day now.

C14E

11-01-2012

Originally Posted by jake lyle:
“Mmm overseeing the spend of £87m on original Comedy, Drama and Factual shows like a proper channel boss or overseeing the scheduling of crime drama Repeats, films and Peter Andre documentarys.

However did he decide”

I'd imagine the pay packet must have presented a very convincing argument.

I'm not sure where he'll find time for all that programming in between Family Guy, Eastenders and Top Gear repeats. Plus, 90% of factual programming has to be about teenage sexuality.

A week in primetime for BBC3:

Don't Tell The Bride, Cherry Healy: Like A Virgin, The Real Hustle: Celebrity Scammers (with G4's Jonathan Ansell!), Russell Howard's Good News, World's Craziest Fools (a clip show), Most Annoying People 2011, Edinburgh Comedy Fest Live 2011, How Sex Works and Coming Out Diaries.

Plus a lot of Family Guy, American Dad, Eastenders and Top Gear repeats. More chance winning a BAFTA at ITV2 with the award winning The Only Way Is Essex.

But seriously - the drama budget is obviously being cut. And he had opportunities in every genre (plus sport) at ITV. Even ITV3 was dabbling in original scripted fare. I guess there's money (and career progression) at the BBC. But it wasn't the most obvious move. Nor was he the most obvious choice for BBC3 (which presumably wants to at least pretend it's not trashy).

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“Where?”

Seems to be an eternal question - at least it keeps the broadcasting forum going anyway!

C.M.W.

12-01-2012

BAFTAs are on the 12th. Upstairs Downstairs is due for March, unless it is getting edited on the fly.....

cylon6

12-01-2012

Originally Posted by allthingsuk:
“Well not having Spooks or Waking the Dead has cleared the way for some fresh blood, but they were both perfectly reliable performers. Only time will tell whether this fresh blood will do the business for BBC1. What the BBC need is more 6-7m dramas other than New Tricks, Doctor Who and Sherlock. I'd say for the BBC, there are too many dramas lingering in the 4-5m range.”

That is very true. Too many solid performers and not enough great performers.The problem with Luther & Sherlock is their irregular nature plus they are short series. Also too many BBC1 dramas seem dour & worthy good though they are. Yes Accused and Public Enemies I'm looking at you. Why doesn't BBC1 have a Mount Pleasant or Mad Dogs?

BBC1's biggest drama successes are the ones with a bit of wit and lightness to them. Namely New Tricks, Doctor Who and Sherlock.

Jonwo

12-01-2012

Originally Posted by C.M.W.:
“BAFTAs are on the 12th. Upstairs Downstairs is due for March, unless it is getting edited on the fly.....”

Seems odd to advertise UD if it's not due to March. Wonder what's airing in February?

ibatten

12-01-2012

Originally Posted by rzt:
“War Of The Roses (?): epic drama set on the backdrop of one of this country's most bloody periods”

That's interesting. The BBC have already announced that they're going to produce Richard II, Henry IV Parts 1 and 2 and Henry V in 2012, with a good cast, helmed by people who know what they're doing. It would seem odd to produce an "epic drama" in the territory that the three parts of Henry VI (particularly the third) cover, unless they've already decided that they're not going to do those plays, in which case they're probably also saying no to Richard III.

ChipChomper

12-01-2012

hello

I know the ratings for the main channels are putup everyday
could you tell me please will the Ratings for the hour of live BB coverage on 5* be part of that?

thank you

rzt

12-01-2012

2.1 million (exc +1) viewers for last night's Celebrity Big Brother eviction. 352K average watched the BB live feed on 5*.

Man City vs Liverpool peaked at 7.9m

Source: dsrealitybites

Apart from Home & Away, Alphas and a few other occasions, I don't think 5* get those sort of ~350k ratings so yesterday's live feed did well for the channel.

Dancc

12-01-2012

Super peak for the football.

Not bad for the CBB eviction considering that doesn't include +1 and the competition was tough last night at 9.

Excellent rating for the live streaming on 5*. Even Alphas was rating lower in the overnights.

rzt

12-01-2012

A couple of other ratings:

Freddie Flintoff: the Hidden Side of Sport (BBC1): 1.3m (11.4%)
Benidorm ER (C5): 1.3m (5.3%) , +1: 33,255 (0.1%)

Source: Attentional

all_night

12-01-2012

Well that live feed rating dispels the myth that there is not a need for Big Brother Live. Hopefully if figure like that continues they will think of adding a few more hours here and there.

derek500

12-01-2012

Originally Posted by ibatten:
“That's interesting. The BBC have already announced that they're going to produce Richard II, Henry IV Parts 1 and 2 and Henry V in 2012, with a good cast, helmed by people who know what they're doing. It would seem odd to produce an "epic drama" in the territory that the three parts of Henry VI (particularly the third) cover, unless they've already decided that they're not going to do those plays, in which case they're probably also saying no to Richard III.”

A mainstream, accessible drama is a different beast to Shakespeare!!

Mike Teevee

12-01-2012

Emmers - 6844 + 422
TULC - 3736 + 151
Midsomer - 4803 + 209
MOTD Live - 6774

BBC2
TGSRBO - 2527
TMOED - 1669

C4
TFBB - 1114
OBEM - 2605
HTBAGM - 1244

sorry for the abrievations, that's just how I do things

Salv*

12-01-2012

This time, can we have the +1 ratings!

hopefully we can get them..

Very good for the Live Feed, Take that!

rzt

12-01-2012

Originally Posted by Mike Teevee:
“Emmers - 6844 + 422
TULC - 3736 + 151
Midsomer - 4803 + 209
MOTD Live - 6774”

Terrific rating for MOTD - quite similar to the 7.3m who watched a Manchester Derby Carling Cup semi final on BBC1 a couple of seasons ago, but there was more pre/post match filler last night to drag down the average. Midsomer rated low - looks like the tough competition knocked it down quite a bit. TMOED also suffered from tough competition, rating almost half of its premiere audience.

rzt

12-01-2012

Wednesday 11th January Overnights
BBC One
06:00- Breakfast: 1.5m (35.4%)
13:45- Doctors: 1.6m (23.1%)
18:00- BBC News at Six: 5.0m (25.7%)
18:30- Regional News and Weather: 5.9m (28.7%)
19:00- The One Show: 4.8m (21.9%)
19:30- MOTD Live: League Cup Semi-Final - Manchester City v Liverpool: 6.8m (27.5%)
* peak: 7.9m
22:00- BBC News at Ten: 4.6m (23.6%)
22:25- Regional News and Weather: 3.3m (19.7%)
22:45- Freddie Flintoff: Hidden Side of Sport: 1.3m (11.4%)

BBC Two
18:00- Eggheads: 2.1m (10.9%)
18:30- Great British Railway Journeys: 2.0m (9.8%)
19:00- Hairy Bikers' Best of British: 2.1m (9.6%)
20:00- The Great Sport Relief Bake Off: 2.7m (10.7%)
21:00- The Mystery of Edwin Drood: 1.8m (6.9%)
22:00- Mock the Week: 1.4m (7.0%)
22:30- Newsnight: 0.7m (5.5%)

ITV1 (inc ITV1+1)
06:00- Daybreak: 0.7m (18.7%)
08:30- Lorraine: 0.9m (19.2%)
09:25- The Jeremy Kyle Show: 1.4m (28.8%)
18:30- ITV News & Weather: 4.3m (20.9%)
19:00- Emmerdale: 7.4m (33.9%)
* exc +1: 7.27m
19:30- The Unforgettable Leslie Crowther: 4.0m (17.9%)
* exc +1: 3.89m
20:00- Midsomer Murders: 5.2m (20.8%)
* exc +1: 5.01m
22:00- ITV News at Ten & Weather: 2.1m (10.9%)
22:35- Payback: 1.0m (10.5%)

Channel 4 (inc C4+1)
18:00- The Simpsons: 1.9m (10.0%)
18:30- Hollyoaks: 1.2m (5.7%)
19:00- Channel 4 News: 0.8m (3.5%)
20:00- How to Cook like Heston: 1.4m (5.6%)
20:30- The Fabulous Baker Brothers: 1.3m (5.2%)
* exc +1: 1.11m
21:00- One Born Every Minute: 3.1m (12.2%)
* exc +1: 2.61m
22:00- How to be a Good Mother with Sharon Horgan: 1.4m (8.6%)
* exc +1: 1.24m

Channel 5 (inc C5+1)
18:30- 5 News: 0.1m (0.5%)
19:00- Cowboy Builders: 0.8m (3.6%)
20:00- Benidorm ER: 1.3m (5.4%)
21:00- Celebrity Big Brother: 2.2m (8.6%)
* exc +1: 2.1m
22:00- Kym Marsh Teen Mums and Me: 0.8m (4.8%)
23:00- Celebrity Big Brother's Bit on the Side: 0.6m (6.0%)

Ratings include HD and are full-slot averages

Salv*

12-01-2012

Expected more for CBB especially with +1. The rating of the night goes to the match obviously, impressive average and very good peak there! Good for Midsomer Murders too. Brilliant for One Born as always!

trickytree1979

12-01-2012

Originally Posted by morph1970:
“Thanks for letting us know, Mike.

Can I ask why there have been all these amendments for programmes of the weeks ending 6 November, 13 November and 20 November? It doesn't seem to have affected any weeks prior to this, has it? Are we going to have changes to the BARB ratings for every week from here on in? It's a bit confusing! ”

The issue related to an incorrect weighting target being used in the system for the month of November, so it will be this period that will be affected, plus the last week of October (those viewing in November, content recorded in the last days of October). BARB has a 6 week amendment cycle anyway, so you often see programme audiences change, but certainly not to this degree clearly.

cylon6

12-01-2012

Channel 4's cooks are no match for a Bake Off. Wasn't Heston rating higher on BBC2?

BBC2
20:00- The Great Sport Relief Bake: Off 2.7m (10.7%)

Channel 4
20:00- How to Cook like Heston 1.4m 5.6%
20:30- The Fabulous Baker Brothers 1.3m 5.2%

fmradiotuner1

12-01-2012

Looks like Five is ahead of Channel 4 again.

cylon6

12-01-2012

Originally Posted by all_night:
“Well that live feed rating dispels the myth that there is not a need for Big Brother Live. Hopefully if figure like that continues they will think of adding a few more hours here and there.”

Originally Posted by Salv*:
“This time, can we have the +1 ratings! hopefully we can get them..

Very good for the Live Feed, Take that!”

The fans said the live feed was important and they were proved right.

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