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Or how about one which covers the professional and personal lives of the crew of a Royal Navy ship?
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Great comment I wanted to share from the incomparable Caitlin Moran in The Times today, describing Wild At Heart - "Emmerdale with giraffes"
![]() Didn't catch EE, but watched Hustle. Not one of the best episodes I have to say, perhaps it is right to call it a day if it has now run out of steam. I wonder if the Beeb's extended EE could backfire a little as huge numbers of people PVR Corrie and start watching it at 8.40pm, thus missing the first 5 mins or so of Hustle? Be interesting to see a full 5 minute breakdown for Hustle tomorrow. |
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Yet another Take Me Out scandal in tomorrow's Mirror. It'll be interesting to see how it does tomorrow night. It's had a hell of a lot of coverage this week, but it hasn't exactly been positive. I thought ITV should be trying to get more coverage for TMO this year but these sort of scandals aren't exactly what I had in mind. I can't see it having a massive effect on the numbers, but it should hold steady at 5m or so.
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Yet another Take Me Out scandal in tomorrow's Mirror. It'll be interesting to see how it does tomorrow night. It's had a hell of a lot of coverage this week, but it hasn't exactly been positive. I thought ITV should be trying to get more coverage for TMO this year but these sort of scandals aren't exactly what I had in mind. I can't see it having a massive effect on the numbers, but it should hold steady at 5m or so.
As for people time-shifting Corrie hurting Hustle, I wouldnt think there is a big crossover between Corrie and Hustle, besides as we all know Corrie fans are little old ladies, who are possibly confused by their mobile phones, yet alone working out how to use a PVR. Also if you can work a PVR to record Corrie, you could work it to record Hustle, and start watching your recording of Hustle after you've finished watching your recording of Corrie. Quote:
Or how about one which covers the professional and personal lives of the crew of a Royal Navy ship?
or in the 1970s Warship or down under Sea Patrol |
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I'm hoping they'll keep it up for 2014 and beyond, as they haven't done it in previous years without a major football tournament. I guess it might just be a one-off thing, but ITV do seem more committed to drama now than they were a couple of years ago so I hope they stick with it.
They're fairly easy ways to fill the slot as they rate very well generally (and repeat well too) so the risk is pretty limited so I can see why they'd want to do it. You're right about sitcoms. Benidorm, Miranda, Mrs Brown's Boys, Gavin and Stacey and Outnumbered amongst others all started in lesser slots/channels, so they'll need to stick with any sitcom that shows signs of being a potential hit (so ratings of 3.5-4m+ in the second half of the series basically). I rememeber the first series of Benidorm settled on c3.5m and they recommissioned it so hopefully they'd show similar patience with any new sitcoms. The soap viewers do seem to like Vernon's gameshows, so they could fill the slot nicely. It'd probably be worth getting Paul O'Grady to do one as well (possibly a revival of an old show) as that'd probably do alright too. Basically they've definitely got cheaper options (obviously they can't afford scripted stuff there all year round) that won't go sub-3m. Maybe a bit. ![]() Waterloo Road has always been an 8pm show but it was definitely more 'gritty' and less 'soapy' in the earlier series than it is now. It began with an 8 episode run in Spring 2006, before returning with 12 episodes in Winter 2007 and a further 20 from October 2007, and now they do 30 per year. If ITV were to try one I think they'd need to do something similar and start relatively small and build it up, but I agree that it'll be pretty difficult for them to find anything, so they might just be better off finding a couple of good 6-10 episodes per year hits for that slot. EDIT: rzt beat me to it with the WR info! The nurses idea could work, or maybe something that cuts across all of the emergency services and the links between them, focussing on a few police, a few doctors, maybe a bit of fire brigade etc (a bit like Law and Order but with the emergency services I guess). They have the Doctors and The Police and at times the Forensics too
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I would read Rzt, Score's and other posts on ITV's pre-watershed drama problems but dont have time now, hopefully tomorrow.
All I will say is ITV could do a lot worse than bringing The Bill back. I still think it could be worthwhile and has more chance than any other new drama in pre-9pm slots. I know it wont happen for several reasons but think it could work. |
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yes what is it with Take Me Out, do they have a policy of recruiting contestants from hookers websites?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-16531752 They need to be more careful about who they put on screen I think...
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Work It axed, Cougar Town still MIA from schedule
Link: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/liv...work-it-281801
Not surprisingly, ABC has cancelled the awfully reviewed sitcom, Work It. Last Man Standing repeats will take over for now. Cougar Town is still unscheduled and looks like it is still set for a March premiere. |
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I think Waterloo Road did start at 8pm and it was up against The Bill in its first series with ratings around the mid 4's IIRC. I think it is possible to launch a new continuing drama these days but the approach has to be like how Waterloo Road worked: so about 8 episodes in series 1, have it back in the next half of the year with 10 episodes, then back in the next half of the year with 15 episodes, etc. So slowly increasing the number of episodes per series so it's only a gradual increase in committment viewers have to give to the show rather than a sudden major year-round committment which would be too major a step.
If they do go down that route though, not sure what could work. Pretty much everything which is about a community of people working in one place (hospital, police, school) has been done as you've said. Maybe a different slant on the hospital genre, focussing on nurses rather than doctors? That's all I can think of. Quote:
Angels was originally a British television seasonal drama series dealing with the subject of student nurses and was broadcast by the BBC between 1975 and 1978. The show's format then switched to a twice weekly soap opera format (although still seasonal) from 1979 to 1983. The show's title derived from the name of the hospital where the series was originally set, St. Angela's, Battersea, although in the early 1980s the scenario changed to Heath Green Hospital, Birmingham. The series was devised by Paula Milne. Early producers included Morris Barry and Ron Craddock. The first episode was directed by Julia Smith who became the show's producer in 1979. Her script editor on the later series was Tony Holland. Julia Smith enlisted Tony Holland as Angels script editor after the show became a twice-weekly soap. Smith and Holland went on to create EastEnders in the 1980s. Angels, in its 1979 to 1983 weekly soap format, tackled issues such as contraception, alcoholism and promiscuity as part of the nurses' lives. Angels received criticism for its unglamorous depiction of the nursing profession, but Smith defended the programme, arguing the need to address such subjects in the series. Indeed, with its sometimes hard-hitting portrayal of young nurses facing up to the demands of the profession, Angels, particularly in its soap format days of 1979 to 1983, was grittily authentic. To this end, each actress taking a part was required to work on a real hospital ward to gain experience and thus contribute to the realism of the production.
The series also provided valuable early TV exposure for a variety of young actresses who have gone on to become famous faces and seasoned players on British TV such as Fiona Fullerton, Lesley Dunlop, Julie Dawn Cole, Clare Clifford and Pauline Quirke. Additionally, Kathryn Apanowicz, Shirley Cheriton and Judith Jacob all went on to appear in EastEnders, with Cheriton playing the particularly prominent role of Debbie Wilkins. |
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Interesting point on last night's Big Brother's Bit on the Side.
Brian admitted that during last night's eviction show he was prepped for what to do if the vote ended in a draw. That suggests to me voting numbers must be very low for that to enough of a possibility to worry producers. It doesn't surprise me, I think the vast majority of people are past voting on Big Brother. I know they are trying this Facebook voting thing, but I do wonder if its time to switch to a free website vote - the potential ad revenue for the website must be verging on being as valueable as the premium votes from the hardcore fans who still bother. |
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yes what is it with Take Me Out, do they have a policy of recruiting contestants from hookers websites?
As for people time-shifting Corrie hurting Hustle, I wouldnt think there is a big crossover between Corrie and Hustle, besides as we all know Corrie fans are little old ladies, who are possibly confused by their mobile phones, yet alone working out how to use a PVR. Also if you can work a PVR to record Corrie, you could work it to record Hustle, and start watching your recording of Hustle after you've finished watching your recording of Corrie. are you making reference to Making Waves which stared Trevor Morgan from EastEnders? or in the 1970s Warship or down under Sea Patrol |
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Interesting point on last night's Big Brother's Bit on the Side.
Brian admitted that during last night's eviction show he was prepped for what to do if the vote ended in a draw. That suggests to me voting numbers must be very low for that to enough of a possibility to worry producers. It doesn't surprise me, I think the vast majority of people are past voting on Big Brother. I know they are trying this Facebook voting thing, but I do wonder if its time to switch to a free website vote - the potential ad revenue for the website must be verging on being as valueable as the premium votes from the hardcore fans who still bother. |
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EDIT: rzt beat me to it with the WR info! The nurses idea could work, or maybe something that cuts across all of the emergency services and the links between them, focussing on a few police, a few doctors, maybe a bit of fire brigade etc (a bit like Law and Order but with the emergency services I guess).
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Surely that suggests a few thousand votes, if that?
Doesn't sound too dreadful to me. If they were that bothered about voting revenue they wouldn't have switched to vote to save. Last night was unfortunate in that sense because two dislikeable characters were up which would have had an effect. |
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I would read Rzt, Score's and other posts on ITV's pre-watershed drama problems but dont have time now, hopefully tomorrow.
All I will say is ITV could do a lot worse than bringing The Bill back. I still think it could be worthwhile and has more chance than any other new drama in pre-9pm slots. I know it wont happen for several reasons but think it could work. |
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ITV scheduling murdered The Bill - why would they bring it back ?
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Celeb BB Eviction: 2.3m/9.4% peaking at 2.71m/11.1%
Celeb BB's Bit on the Side: 653k/5.3% World's Toughest Trucker: 1.19m/4.9% Celeb Wedding Planner: 860k/4.5% |
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Thanks Dancc.
Another good night for C5 on the whole. CBB did pretty well (perhaps a touch lower than they'd have liked after how it did on Thursday but then the competition was tougher last night), whilst World's Toughest Trucker is doing well. BOTS as solid as ever although Wedding Planner is a disappointment. I doubt they'll bring that one back.
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Hustle returns with a average of 5.1m viewers - the highest rating show at 9pm last night.
EastEnders was the highest rating show of the day, averaging 9.1m viewers. Stella averages 548,000, peaks 623,000 Sources: Sam Hodges, John Williams |
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Thanks rzt.
Slightly lower than last year for Hustle at 9pm, but still very solid. Law & Order will have dented it slightly (as it did when they clashed 2 years ago) and it'll be interesting to see how the latter held up. Looks pretty good for EE (maybe they were hoping for closer to 10m?) and Stella is doing well for Sky. Yet again, why aren't BBC1 or ITV1 airing this? I'm sure Ruth Jones would rather have her show on a more popular channel, but it seems like Sky are making much more of an effort than either with comedy.
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Friday 13th January - Soap Overnights
BBC One 13:45- Doctors: 1.53m (22.4%) 20:00- EastEnders: 9.14m (37.2%) ITV1 19:00- Emmerdale: 7.37m (34.0%) 19:30- Coronation Street: 8.76m (37.7%) 20:30- Coronation Street: 6.76m (26.7%) , +1: 254k (1.0%) Channel 4 18:30- Hollyoaks: 933k (4.6%) BBC Three 22:00- EastEnders: 862k (4.2%) E4 19:00- Hollyoaks: 555k (2.6%) Source: DS Ratings include HD and are tape-checked where necessary |
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Celeb BB Eviction: 2.3m/9.4% peaking at 2.71m/11.1%
Celeb BB's Bit on the Side: 653k/5.3% World's Toughest Trucker: 1.19m/4.9% Celeb Wedding Planner: 860k/4.5% |
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Do these include +1?
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Yep, they most likely include +1, as Dancc's figures usually do.
![]() Damn was expecting around 2.5m! |
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Disappointing for EE, disappointing for Hustle.
Had EE been 30 mins I suspect both would have done much better. |
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