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The Ratings Thread (Part 30)
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Jonwo
06-01-2012
Originally Posted by C14E:
“Do we know when Homeland is premiering on Channel 4? I'm up to episode 5 and I'm hooked. A definite big miss from Sky Atlantic, though. They really ought to have Showtime on an exclusive deal as well or at least have made a move for this series. I think it'd be capable of good numbers on Sky Atlantic as well. On Channel 4 I have a feeling it'll struggle. Particularly as it's likely to run until 11.15pm some nights - I've seen running times of 49 minutes for one episode and 57 for another.”

With the right promotion it'd do quite well and given that The Killing got a 9pm slot, Homeland should but I think content wise it's more likely for 10pm.

New Girl has got possibly the worst slot ever, it should have been paired with another comedy. Is 2 Broke Girls going to air on Channel 4 or E4, think Channel 4 has a potential winner with 2BG.
C14E
06-01-2012
Originally Posted by Jonwo:
“With the right promotion it'd do quite well and given that The Killing got a 9pm slot, Homeland should but I think content wise it's more likely for 10pm.”

I'm only a few episodes in but I think some of the content makes it a 10pm show - plus there's the scheduling issue.

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“New Girl has got possibly the worst slot ever, it should have been paired with another comedy. Is 2 Broke Girls going to air on Channel 4 or E4, think Channel 4 has a potential winner with 2BG.”

On one hand, I do like the idea of them putting US sitcoms on Channel 4. But sometimes I think they'd be better on E4. Or else airing The Big Bang Theory at 9pm on Channel 4 with New Girl following (although I'm not a big fan of taking away digital channels biggest hits). Friday at 8.30pm is, as you say, an awful slot for it.
grahamzxy
06-01-2012
Originally Posted by C14E:
“On one hand, I do like the idea of them putting US sitcoms on Channel 4. But sometimes I think they'd be better on E4. Or else airing The Big Bang Theory at 9pm on Channel 4 with New Girl following (although I'm not a big fan of taking away digital channels biggest hits). Friday at 8.30pm is, as you say, an awful slot for it.”

Considering the main channel competition, Lenny Henry, Mastermind, Coronation Street, World's Toughest Trucker - it is actually a plum slot with nothing else going after the 16-25 demo, E4 are showing Desperate Scousewives though. I have gone for 1.3m viewers in the RPG - but it could so easily better that, before millions switch to C5 for CBB at 9.00pm.
Georged123
06-01-2012
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“Gave up on Eternal Law after half an hour. Jeez, it was rubbish, and it takes something for me to slag off a new drama, particularly something different. Looks like the second major TV turkey of the past fortnight after TRB. Expect it will be a ratings stinker, as I just can't see who would have stuck with that for a full hour? I could be wrong of course!”

I managed 14 mins on the turgid ITV Player before it decided to buffer then continue but also play the audio from the beginning over the video. At least I have had a reminder why never to use this piece of crap ever again.

From those 14 mins, I thought it was pretty poor, I think weird is the kindest word I could use to describe it.

Fair play to ITV for airing something that isn't just a basic cop drama but there is making something a bit different and going totally left field. This is certainly the latter.
cylon6
06-01-2012
Originally Posted by GBali:
“Do you have any Christmas Eve AI Scores? (Merlin?)”

Originally Posted by rzt:
“Merlin had 90 on Christmas Eve.”

Originally Posted by Charnham:
“another good thing Merlin has going for it.”

2011 was the year really seemed to grow with the mainstream audience. It's up for a National TV Award for Favourite Drama so the viewers are really responding to it.
JustWonderful
06-01-2012
Originally Posted by Jonwo:
“New Girl has got possibly the worst slot ever, it should have been paired with another comedy. Is 2 Broke Girls going to air on Channel 4 or E4, think Channel 4 has a potential winner with 2BG.”

I agree with the awful scheduling for New Girl- it just gets lost in the line up. Channel 4 are promoting the hell out of it though so it might pull decent numbers.

I didn't realise they had picked up 2 Broke Girls, if that is so, then surely they should have waited and done a comedy double header on a Thurs/Fri night from 9-10...

Or at the very least started with a double episode- so it runs for a full hour.
Cent
06-01-2012
Anyone know what this is?

http://twitter.com/#!/drcasio/status...971073/photo/1

Can broadcasters track live audiences now?
C14E
06-01-2012
FOX have cancelled the results show of So You Think You Can Dance?

From Nigel Lythgoe's Twitter:

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“FOX have cancelled the results show so I will have to change the format of SYTYCD. At least we have another season at the end of May.

Don't worry SYTYCD fans. I'm thrilled we have a new series. We'll do our best to find some great talent starting next week in May.

I'm certainly not mad at FOX they have supported SYTYCD for 9 seasons. With the help of Mike Darnell I think we have some great new ideas.”

It follows declining ratings for the show over the past couple of years. No word on whether or not FOX will expand its reality output next summer.
Sad_BB_Addict
06-01-2012
Originally Posted by Cent:
“Anyone know what this is?

http://twitter.com/#!/drcasio/status...971073/photo/1

Can broadcasters track live audiences now?”

I tweeted Christian about its source (a web site or his own custom software?) but he hasn't replied yet. I think it's counting tweets, or some other data aggregation thing.
grahamzxy
06-01-2012
Originally Posted by Cent:
“Anyone know what this is?

http://twitter.com/#!/drcasio/status...971073/photo/1

Can broadcasters track live audiences now?”

Well it seems to be webtrends. They have zero access to BARB computers, the guy was on BB BOTS some months ago and he claimed his company can track algorithms regarding web trends, ie. how many people are talking about CBB or a football match or a big news story.
grahamzxy
06-01-2012
Originally Posted by C14E:
“FOX have cancelled the results show of So You Think You Can Dance?
From Nigel Lythgoe's Twitter:
It follows declining ratings for the show over the past couple of years. No word on whether or not FOX will expand its reality output next summer.”

I read this 2 days ago, on DS or twitter. Best to keep a declining show as short as possible, so not to deter more viewers.

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“'So You Think You Can Dance' results show killed
Published: Tuesday, January 03, 2012, 11:21 AM
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http://www.nj.com/entertainment/tv/i...nce_res_2.html
BB-mega-addict
06-01-2012
Since he's a social media analyst who works for a company called WebTrends (I read his Twitter background), he's almost definitely looking at stats relating to how much each show is being talked about on the various social networks.
spkx
06-01-2012
His stats were extremely dodgy on BOTS
ftv
06-01-2012
Sir Andrew Lloyd Webber has signed a deal with ITV for a programme hunting for a leading man for his remake of the West End musical Jesus Christ Superstar.He will also search for a performer to play Judas.He has fronted four similar search shows for the BBC but apparently they weren't interested in this latest project.The remake will not play in the West End but will tour including the 02.

Source: The Sun
Steve Williams
06-01-2012
Originally Posted by allthingsuk:
“I'd be interesting to know how The Big Breakfast was doing ratings-wise in the 1990s compared to GMTV and BBC Breakfast News. It was a successful replacement for The Channel Four Daily, and (someone correct me on this) it did beat GMTV quite frequently.”

In 1993 I'm pretty sure it was beating GMTV every day, I know its highest audience was in September 1993 when it had a regular audience of two million, with GMTV and Breakfast News nearer one million (GMTV started off with the same audience as TVam but it plummeted). I remember it was Easter 1994 when GMTV pulled ahead, one reason being that they'd bought Power Rangers and all the kids started watching that instead. Of course, by the end of the decade The Big Breakfast had declined to the point it was the fifth of the five main channels.

Originally Posted by F1Ken:
“They should do more Celebrity Mastermind it's performing well.”

They already do ten a year, and I'm staggered they can find forty people willing to do it. It's all very well saying they should shake up the 7pm schedules and run The One Show less but that just brings back the problem they had before which is you get a mish-mash of stuff, some of which will flop horribly, and with The One Show particularly nobody will know when it's on.

Originally Posted by Brekkie:
“Although 5.15pm is handy for people like myself who have a short commute to work I wonder if when CBBC on BBC1 goes they might be tempted to try and extend it to fill the 5pm hour.”

Hmm, they kept The Weakest Link at 45 minutes for its entire life, even though it was on BBC2 for many years. The Beeb seem to find 45 minutes the right length for its quizzes, Perfection is 45 minutes long as well.

The success of Pointless before Christmas, where it benefited from limited competition and a better lead-in, is almost an exact repeat of when The Weakest Link first took off, because that started in August 2000 but started to pull in really big ratings in September during the Olympics, as it got a decent lead-in from the Olympic coverage (which ran up to 5.15 on BBC2) and there was no Neighbours on BBC1 either.

Originally Posted by Fudd:
“BBC Two had another excellent night which is of little surprise considering the base contained the same programming as Tuesday. Again, like Tuesday, the 10pm programme makes little sense - how would Mock the Week keep the same audience that watched King George and Queen Mary?”

I would have thought most of the audience for that programme would have moved over to BBC1 for the news, hence BBC2's role at 10pm is to offer an alternative. That's why when the news was at nine they used to do lots of comedy at 9pm and documentaries at 9.30, but since it moved to ten it's always been documentaties at nine and comedy at 10pm.

What is a bit hopeless by BBC2 this week is that I think they're showing repeats of panel games every night at ten, which is pretty weak in the middle of winter. And also Delivering Quality First suggested they'd be showing fewer panel games, which would leave a bloody big hole.
Dancc
06-01-2012
Overnights delayed it seems. How predictable!
all_night
06-01-2012
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Overnights delayed it seems. How predictable!”

Nooooo!

I'm hoping for around 3 million or more for CBB Launch
rzt
06-01-2012
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Overnights delayed it seems. How predictable!”

Typical isn't it?! Always happens on the days when the ratings are most interesting!
Dancc
06-01-2012
It's agony. Data delays do my head in. And like you say never does it happen on a quiet day! It can't be a coincidence, can it?
Dancc
06-01-2012
Oh well. Back to work for me. I'll be one of the last to find out again!
rzt
06-01-2012
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“It's agony. Data delays do my head in. And like you say never does it happen on a quiet day! It can't be a coincidence, can it?”

It could be because new channel Chart Show TV +1 began reporting for the first time yesterday and it takes time for BARB to put it into the system? Hence, delayed overnights.
Salv*
06-01-2012
Oh damn, delayed? When they are delayed, what time are they usually released?
rzt
06-01-2012
Originally Posted by Salv*:
“Oh damn, delayed? When they are delayed, what time are they usually released?”

When overnights have been delayed previously, they've eventually been released all sorts of different times. Sometimes an hour later, sometimes in the afternoon or evening of that day, sometimes the following day! It's a bit of an unpredictable one.
ftv
06-01-2012
Originally Posted by all_night:
“Nooooo!

I'm hoping for around 3 million or more for CBB Launch”

The Daily Express said the other day that ''TV experts'' had predicted CBB woul get its highest audience ever for this series. I wonder who these experts are - Robbie Sykes perhaps (or Richard Desmond)
D.M.N.
06-01-2012
Originally Posted by rzt:
“When overnights have been delayed previously, they've eventually been released all sorts of different times. Sometimes an hour later, sometimes in the afternoon or evening of that day, sometimes the following day! It's a bit of an unpredictable one.”

I think they may also want to check Channel 5 +1 as I suspect it may be the first time the channel has gone up into several hundred thousands, okay, there wasn't massive competition at 9pm, but the +1 airing may still have got ~300/400k.
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