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And now we have this.
"Live+7 figs (consolidated &iPlayer) show 3 #BBC1 xmas day shows viewed by more than 12m: #DoctorWho 12.88 #EastEnders 12.8, #AbFab 12.47" https://twitter.com/#!/Sam_Hodges/st...53934741659649 |
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What - you've heard of both of them?
Awful line up (for both) - absolute proof Britain has run out of celebrities. And to think CBB used to be able to get names like Maggot and Tracey Bingham. |
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Was BBC1's omnibus rating, which featured the EE Christmas Day episode, included in the Live +7 figures?
Don't forget the ITV1 repeat though which was shown within 7 days after initial transmission. I suspect that rated around 1m. |
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if we are counting repeats within 7 days, then there are two repeats of Doctor Who you could also count. On the 27th and the 28th.
Of course (and same for the Downton repeat) working out how many of those viewers are new viewers watching the show for the first time, would be tricky. Its near on impossible to get a true total rating, for either show. Don't BARB record which individuals watched a programme (apart from generic "guests") so they know if someone is watching for the first or subsequent times. Trickytree will know if that's true and therefore if the "Live+7" stats take this into account... K |
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Was BBC1's omnibus rating, which featured the EE Christmas Day episode, included in the Live +7 figures?
Edit: Was there even an omnibus airing for the Christmas Day episode? I'm not sure. Quote:
Don't forget the ITV1 repeat though which was shown within 7 days after initial transmission. I suspect that rated around 1m.
Yes the Downton figures would go up as well...but the ITV player is a bit crap so people ditch it.
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I managed 14 mins on the turgid ITV Player before it decided to buffer then continue but also play the audio from the beginning over the video. At least I have had a reminder why never to use this piece of crap ever again.
From those 14 mins, I thought it was pretty poor, I think weird is the kindest word I could use to describe it. Fair play to ITV for airing something that isn't just a basic cop drama but there is making something a bit different and going totally left field. This is certainly the latter. |
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if we are counting repeats within 7 days, then there are two repeats of Doctor Who you could also count. On the 27th and the 28th.
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And now we have this.
"Live+7 figs (consolidated &iPlayer) show 3 #BBC1 xmas day shows viewed by more than 12m: #DoctorWho 12.88 #EastEnders 12.8, #AbFab 12.47" https://twitter.com/#!/Sam_Hodges/st...53934741659649
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Those Live+7 figures do count repeats, don't they? I could be wrong, but I doubt Doctor Who had 2.11m on just iPlayer alone.
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BIB.
Don't BARB record which individuals watched a programme (apart from generic "guests") so they know if someone is watching for the first or subsequent times. Trickytree will know if that's true and therefore if the "Live+7" stats take this into account... K Quote:
Those Live+7 figures do count repeats, don't they? I could be wrong, but I doubt Doctor Who had 2.11m on just iPlayer alone.
Again unless we know how many of the reported viewers were new viewers, we cant just add the figures up. |
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And now we have this.
"Live+7 figs (consolidated &iPlayer) show 3 #BBC1 xmas day shows viewed by more than 12m: #DoctorWho 12.88 #EastEnders 12.8, #AbFab 12.47" https://twitter.com/#!/Sam_Hodges/st...53934741659649 Quote:
Those Live+7 figures do count repeats, don't they? I could be wrong, but I doubt Doctor Who had 2.11m on just iPlayer alone. Likewise, Absolutely Fabulous wouldn't have had 3.40m watching on iPlayer - that 12.47m includes the BBC1 repeat. I believe Live+7 incorporates all repeat viewing and iPlayer viewing within 7 days after initial transmission.
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This delay to the ratings is taking the beeswax!!!!!
I want to know how CBB / CBB BOTS did!!!! Hurry up BARB!!!! You're getting worse and worse!!!!! |
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Those Live+7 figures do count repeats, don't they? I could be wrong, but I doubt Doctor Who had 2.11m on just iPlayer alone. Likewise, Absolutely Fabulous wouldn't have had 3.40m watching on iPlayer - that 12.47m includes the BBC1 repeat. I believe Live+7 incorporates all repeat viewing and iPlayer viewing within 7 days after initial transmission.
Probably....
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This delay to the ratings is taking the beeswax!!!!!
I want to know how CBB / CBB BOTS did!!!! Hurry up BARB!!!! You're getting worse and worse!!!!! |
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The Xmas Eve, Day and Boxing Day EE were on BBC1 early afternoon on Tues 27th iirc. Doubt it got that many viewers. I would imagine the Xmas Day EE+BBC3 same night+iPlayer figure would have outdone the DA +ITV1+1 +ITVPlayer number though, surely?
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I don't know whether the current 7 day timeshift means "by the end of the 7th day" or "within 168 hours of first transmission". It's an interesting point though, does anyone know?
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Calm down, panic over, Downton still won!
Probably.... ![]() .
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Interestingly Steven Moffat had this to say about Live+7 ratings.
https://twitter.com/#!/steven_moffat...47184940515329 "The Live+7 figure for DW Xmas special (basically adding iPlayer) is 12.88. BBC's winner for the day." This ratings debate will run & run. I've always felt that iPlayer success is knocking some show's ratings down on BARB. Live+7 is NOT the consolidated +iplayer, it's the consolidated plus ALL narrative repeats in the week plus iPlayer. Therefore, it includes the Christmas day showing (10.8m), the BBC1 repeat on the 27th (1.3m) and the BBC repeat on the 28th (0.5m). Please bear this in mind when the BBC issue the Live+7, it includes the repeats on TV. There is no way, not in a million years, that 2m people watched Doctor who on the iplayer. |
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Arrrrrggggh!!!
Live+7 is NOT the consolidated +iplayer, it's the consolidated plus ALL narrative repeats in the week plus iPlayer. Therefore, it includes the Christmas day showing (10.8m), the BBC1 repeat on the 27th (1.3m) and the BBC repeat on the 28th (0.5m). Please bear this in mind when the BBC issue the Live+7, it includes the repeats on TV. There is no way, not in a million years, that 2m people watched Doctor who on the iplayer. 10.8+1.3+0.5=12.6, leaving only <300k for iPlayer (DW episodes regularly get over 1m "requests", IIRC) so either: Duplicate BARB viewers weren't counted or Requests compared to watching whole prog is a severe overestimate or... K |
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BIB.
Don't BARB record which individuals watched a programme (apart from generic "guests") so they know if someone is watching for the first or subsequent times. Trickytree will know if that's true and therefore if the "Live+7" stats take this into account... K |
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Interesting...
10.8+1.3+0.5=12.6, leaving only <300k for iPlayer (DW episodes regularly get over 1m "requests", IIRC) so either: Duplicate BARB viewers weren't counted or Requests compared to watching whole prog is a severe overestimate or... K |
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Love the ever more new and interesting ways to count the Christmas day ratings.
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Trickytree1979, I know it's a long shot - are you able to find out how many viewers who watched Sherlock on Sunday just gone also watched Wild at Heart on 9th January 2011? I'm just curious how much the crossover audience is. If that's not possible, do you have the separate Live + Same Day overnight data for the Sherlock episode just gone (how many watched it properly between 8.10-9.40pm)? Thanks.
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does there needs to be a new news article?
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Arrrrrggggh!!!
Live+7 is NOT the consolidated +iplayer, it's the consolidated plus ALL narrative repeats in the week plus iPlayer. Therefore, it includes the Christmas day showing (10.8m), the BBC1 repeat on the 27th (1.3m) and the BBC repeat on the 28th (0.5m). Please bear this in mind when the BBC issue the Live+7, it includes the repeats on TV. There is no way, not in a million years, that 2m people watched Doctor who on the iplayer. EDIT: My mistake they can measure how much of an iPlayer request is watched. I read the blog I linked too.
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