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Old 05-01-2012, 17:16
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Something I've often wondered, were Take That the first boyband (who don't play their own instruments etc.)?
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Old 05-01-2012, 17:19
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Weren't New Kids On The Block before Take That?
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Old 05-01-2012, 17:20
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Old 05-01-2012, 17:41
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Boy vocal groups go back a long way.

The Four Tops and The Temptations from the 60s are pretty well known soul groups. Then there are doo-wop groups like The Drifters, The Platters and The Coasters.

(And they are part of a tradition that goes back to the 19th Century at least).
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Old 05-01-2012, 17:42
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Bros?
Beatles?
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Old 05-01-2012, 17:49
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The Osmonds

The Jackson 5

The Monkees

The Bay City Rollers

New Edition

New Kids On The Block

Ah-ha

Boys ll Men

Bros
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Old 05-01-2012, 18:29
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The Beatles played instruments.
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Old 05-01-2012, 18:50
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The Beatles played instruments.

still just a boy band
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Old 05-01-2012, 20:10
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The Beatles played instruments.
As do Take That.
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Old 05-01-2012, 20:17
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The Osmonds

The Jackson 5

The Monkees

The Bay City Rollers

New Edition

New Kids On The Block

Ah-ha

Boys ll Men

Bros
they did play instruments though.
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Old 05-01-2012, 20:22
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they did play instruments though.
Didn't the Rollers? Or where they just miming.
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Old 05-01-2012, 20:34
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I regard New Kids On The Block as the archetypal "boy band"
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Old 05-01-2012, 20:41
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I regard New Kids On The Block as the archetypal "boy band"
This.

Someone mentioned a-ha above but they played their own instruments as did Bros.
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Old 05-01-2012, 20:43
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Aside from Gary, they didn't the first time around though.
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Old 06-01-2012, 10:00
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depends on what qualifies as a boyband. true acts long before new kids on the block fitted the template... but the term wasnt used. it first came to my attention around 1990 when new kids on the block were formed.

earlier acts really werent quite the same, the bay city rollers, osmonds, jackson 5, beatles, monkees a-ha were not boybands...although all acts first had some features that later boybands would employ. (bcr and monkees pretty much manufactured, early beatles had merchandising aimed at kids, osmonds, jacksons, had a 'pretty boy' lead and did dance routines...but they played intruments and created their own music).

bros nearly qualify, they were out just before nkotb, but again were an instrument playing pop group as oposed to a bunch of pretty boy karaoke singers....... but i guess take that kinda evolved away from that as gary barlow composed.... it could be argued that take that werent a real boyband!
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Old 06-01-2012, 14:06
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If you take the generic term of "boyband", or "girlband" for that matter as a vocal group formed to sing songs written for them by composers then in terms of pop music you can go right back to the 1950s, as most groups of that time fitted in to that generic term.

The early days of Motown being a classic example. A song would be written and then the best person to sing that song would be chosen. In those days the singles chart was more about the actual song, rather than who was singing it, so it wasn't uncommon for two or three versions of a song, sung by different artists, to be in the singles chart at the same time.
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Old 06-01-2012, 17:56
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The earliest contenders I can think of were the Mills Brothers who formed in 1928 and had far more top ten hits than take that will ever have. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mills_Brothers
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Old 06-01-2012, 18:07
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The earliest contenders I can think of were the Mills Brothers who formed in 1928 and had far more top ten hits than take that will ever have. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mills_Brothers
And I thought I was doing well with the Drifters and The Coasters!
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Old 06-01-2012, 19:57
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The Beatles played instruments.
still just a boy band
Banging my head on wall

for me "both statements i agree with" (sorry mushy)

But thats my view.... Depends on what individuals think is what matters i suppose.

Anyway moving on people
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Old 06-01-2012, 20:30
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I Think the difference with the Beatles is that if they had not existed as performers their Song writing was of such a standard that they would have been taken seriously in their own write (and draw - as John Lennon would have said)

And, whilst they were marketed as a boy band - their creative songwriting combined with their history as a rough rock and roll outfit on the mean streets of Liverpool and Hamburg meant that they were a lot more than that....
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Old 06-01-2012, 21:29
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The Osmonds

The Jackson 5

The Monkees

The Bay City Rollers

New Edition

New Kids On The Block

Ah-ha

Boys ll Men

Bros
Nnoooooo!! Not A-Ha. They play instruments and don't dance around the stage like prats
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Old 07-01-2012, 00:23
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Aha - weren't they cartoons - I've Never seen them at a Music Festival.... Were they real?
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Old 07-01-2012, 07:26
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Banging my head on wall

for me "both statements i agree with" (sorry mushy)

But thats my view.... Depends on what individuals think is what matters i suppose.

Anyway moving on people
... how can you lump into the same generic class, the group that popularised the template for all rock/pop groups, whos creativity is unequaled, who lead the pop music explosion and evolved from a simplistic pop group (they were called pop groups back then!) and who are regarded by music fans, critics, contemporaries, industry insiders, as the biggest influence on pop music ever.... as a bunch of pretty boy karaoke manufactured puppets?

c'mon! its ridiculous! they are stylistically and musically poles appart! the only simularity is that in the early days, they created simplistic pop that appealled to young girls....they soon evolved way above that .

same with busted and mcfly... they are so much different from westlife, blue, 5ive... they are closer to being rock then a boyband....
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Old 07-01-2012, 07:36
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anyway, i dont know why this article wasnt consulted, it is, for my money pretty much spot on....even if i dont like some of what it says. its a pretty much concise article of the evolution of boybands. please note, id doesnt refer to the beatles as a boyband, but states that they employed some aspects that were later employed by boybands...ie marketing to young girls! and that the term 'boyband' wasnt used before the 90's....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boy_band
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Old 07-01-2012, 08:01
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... how can you lump into the same generic class, the group that popularised the template for all rock/pop groups, whos creativity is unequaled, who lead the pop music explosion and evolved from a simplistic pop group (they were called pop groups back then!) and who are regarded by music fans, critics, contemporaries, industry insiders, as the biggest influence on pop music ever.... as a bunch of pretty boy karaoke manufactured puppets?

c'mon! its ridiculous! they are stylistically and musically poles appart! the only simularity is that in the early days, they created simplistic pop that appealled to young girls....they soon evolved way above that .

same with busted and mcfly... they are so much different from westlife, blue, 5ive... they are closer to being rock then a boyband....
Oooh, and you were doing so well......
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