Originally Posted by swingaleg:
“my point though related to wether or not he would have won multiple TdF if everyone in the peloton was riding clean
I reckon he probably would because it's naive to think that other organisations were too stupid or too backward not to have doping regimes that were every bit as good as Armstrongs
and if the doping equalled out then he was still rider around with the best team tactics to win the Tour
that's what I think is the sadness.............that he would have won anyway if the sport was clean”
“my point though related to wether or not he would have won multiple TdF if everyone in the peloton was riding clean
I reckon he probably would because it's naive to think that other organisations were too stupid or too backward not to have doping regimes that were every bit as good as Armstrongs
and if the doping equalled out then he was still rider around with the best team tactics to win the Tour
that's what I think is the sadness.............that he would have won anyway if the sport was clean”
I'm not sure Armstrong would have won if the sport was clean. There have been very good junior riders who never made it as pro cyclists because they refused to dope. Graham Obree quit his road team because he refused to dope. We don't know how riders like that would have performed if the sport was clean so to just make an assumption that they were all at it so Armstrong would have won anyway is the wrong way to look at it in my opinion.





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