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The Pro Cycling Thread
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cmq2
15-07-2012
The Codifis DS is being quoted on Twitter alleging tacks on the road.
jcafcw
15-07-2012
Good to see they can sit up and let Evans catch up now that have caught the idiot Rolland.

Tacks on the road who would have thought it?
dmuk
15-07-2012
Tackgate.
cmq2
15-07-2012
Okay start the tacky headlines competition....

Was thinking about a Sanchez joke after his gestures yesterday but probably not a good idea to post until the real culprit is caught.

Sagan now has 333 pts in the green jersey competition compared to Cavendish's final tally of 334pts last year.
Mark F
15-07-2012
Good moment of sportsmanship by Wiggins and co to wait for Evans considering it would have been easy for him to attack like the French bloke did.
batdude_uk1
15-07-2012
Today did seem very odd indeed, this tour has had its fair share of incidents to say the least.
I always wonder why the organisers allow the fans to run alongside the riders, and to even touch them, in no other sport can I think of, is this even remotely considered acceptable.

Yesterday it was flares and today it is tacks, what is it to be next?

Why are the fans not behind barriers, like at the finish? It makes no sense really.
What is to stop some maniac just pushing someone off of their bike, just for the hell of it, and to get on tv?
Eater Sundae
15-07-2012
Originally Posted by batdude_uk1:
“Today did seem very odd indeed, this tour has had its fair share of incidents to say the least.
I always wonder why the organisers allow the fans to run alongside the riders, and to even touch them, in no other sport can I think of, is this even remotely considered acceptable.

Yesterday it was flares and today it is tacks, what is it to be next?

Why are the fans not behind barriers, like at the finish? It makes no sense really.
What is to stop some maniac just pushing someone off of their bike, just for the hell of it, and to get on tv?”

100+ kms of road to be barriered, each day. Even if they were to do this, it would then need to be policed to stop anyone just ducking under it.

Has there been any further news about the flare incident? Presumably he (or she?) is on tape. Was it a protest against Wiggins, or against the "yellow jersey" as a symbol of the race, or just a bloke with a flare who in his excitement happened to catch Bradley?
grassmarket
15-07-2012
It's bizarre, there were hundreds of people there, someone must have seen it.
batdude_uk1
15-07-2012
Originally Posted by Eater Sundae:
“100+ kms of road to be barriered, each day. Even if they were to do this, it would then need to be policed to stop anyone just ducking under it.

Has there been any further news about the flare incident? Presumably he (or she?) is on tape. Was it a protest against Wiggins, or against the "yellow jersey" as a symbol of the race, or just a bloke with a flare who in his excitement happened to catch Bradley?”

Why do they allow people to get soo close that they can actually touch the riders, and do who knows what else to them?
It is very lax by the organisers.
Someone needs to sort this out I would have thought.
afx237vi
15-07-2012
Originally Posted by batdude_uk1:
“Why do they allow people to get soo close that they can actually touch the riders, and do who knows what else to them?
It is very lax by the organisers.
Someone needs to sort this out I would have thought.”

Think you're over-reacting slightly. You can't put barriers on the entire 3,000 km of the route, and even if you did you couldn't stop a determined nutcase from interfering with the race.
batdude_uk1
15-07-2012
Originally Posted by afx237vi:
“Think you're over-reacting slightly. You can't put barriers on the entire 3,000 km of the route, and even if you did you couldn't stop a determined nutcase from interfering with the race.”

But surley you can do more than they are doing at the moment?
swingaleg
15-07-2012
Originally Posted by batdude_uk1:
“But surley you can do more than they are doing at the moment?”

In a sense barriers could be more dangerous......if a nutter jumps over a barrier he's trapped amongst the riders

As it is nutters can run along but if a group of riders comes up behind he can quicklyjump back off the road.............

It's only a problem on the mountains where the riders are only going 10-12 MPH. On the open flat stages nobody jumps out alongside the riders when they'e going 25-30 MPH

You've probably noticed that they tend to barrier off the final few kilometres up a climb........I suppose extend that another kilo or two

Fact is that the sport has been going for over a hundred years and it's always taken place on public roads where spectators don't have to book or get a ticket or pay anything.........and the number of serious incidents is minimal. I expect the sport is willing to accept the minimal risk for the huge benefit of getting spectators close up to the action and making it an 'event'
batdude_uk1
15-07-2012
Originally Posted by swingaleg:
“In a sense barriers could be more dangerous......if a nutter jumps over a barrier he's trapped amongst the riders

As it is nutters can run along but if a group of riders comes up behind he can quicklyjump back off the road.............

It's only a problem on the mountains where the riders are only going 10-12 MPH. On the open flat stages nobody jumps out alongside the riders when they'e going 25-30 MPH

You've probably noticed that they tend to barrier off the final few kilometres up a climb........I suppose extend that another kilo or two

Fact is that the sport has been going for over a hundred years and it's always taken place on public roads where spectators don't have to book or get a ticket or pay anything.........and the number of serious incidents is minimal. I expect the sport is willing to accept the minimal risk for the huge benefit of getting spectators close up to the action and making it an 'event'”

Just because something has been going for over a hundred years is no excuse for change and to try and keep the riders as safe as possible.
We all want to see good racing, and for the teams and riders to do as well as possible, what we don't want to see is them having to dodge spectators, worry about what spectators are going to do to them etc.
What if that flare had been something more dangerous, or if someone was alergic to the chemicals in the flare, and had to pull out because of that, would that have been considered fair?

There should be an opportunity for the fans to see and watch as much of the action as possible, but the first consideration should be to keep the riders and teams as safe as possible, so that all they have to think about is the race and nothing else.
Electra
15-07-2012
Originally Posted by Mark F:
“Good moment of sportsmanship by Wiggins and co to wait for Evans considering it would have been easy for him to attack like the French bloke did.”

Such a contrast to that cheating little git Contador.
sherer
15-07-2012
take out tackgate and it wouldn't have been that exciting a stage.

LLS attacks while Sagan is eating and pack in the peloton Sky wait while Evans punctures.

The steep climb ended up being nothing and Wiggo didn't have to put up with any attacks really.

Froome was misquoted by L'Equipe
grassmarket
15-07-2012
Originally Posted by swingaleg:
“In a sense barriers could be more dangerous......if a nutter jumps over a barrier he's trapped amongst the riders”

Plus the riders could hit them...
klunk
15-07-2012
Sky should bring in Jimmy Carr. To advise them about avoiding tacks.
Eater Sundae
15-07-2012
Originally Posted by klunk:
“Sky should bring in Jimmy Carr. To advise them about avoiding tacks.”

Boom Boom
Electra
15-07-2012
Originally Posted by sherer:
“take out tackgate and it wouldn't have been that exciting a stage.

LLS attacks while Sagan is eating and pack in the peloton Sky wait while Evans punctures.

The steep climb ended up being nothing and Wiggo didn't have to put up with any attacks really.

Froome was misquoted by L'Equipe”

If tackgate hadn't happened then Wiggins may well have come in for attacks from Evans & Nibali, particularly on the descent. Maybe holding up the peloton wasn't enitirely altruistic
Electra
15-07-2012
Originally Posted by klunk:
“Sky should bring in Jimmy Carr. To advise them about avoiding tacks.”

Apparently Rangers FC are putting in a team next year.
cmq2
15-07-2012
Without gendarmes every few metres barriers proved a fat lot of good on Stage 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Q-r1lZdy20&feature=plcp

Liggett was sharp on live commentary on Rolland's attack after Sky sat up: "He only speaks French"

ITV highlights clearly showed a worse case of selfishness: Tejay Van Garderen hearing Evans at the top of the climb and looking round for another BMC rider to stop for him.
fluffed
15-07-2012
Yep, Tejay VG will have copped an earful from his director for that "oh, you meant me? I just thought you meant.. um someone else.. er, who wasn't there" manoeuvre.
klunk
15-07-2012
Originally Posted by Electra:
“Apparently Rangers FC are putting in a team next year.”

I was waiting for Gary Imlach to work in a "tacks evasion" gag, but it never came. Ah well, he missed one punning opportunity. I still love the guy.
sherer
15-07-2012
Originally Posted by cmq2:
“Without gendarmes every few metres barriers proved a fat lot of good on Stage 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Q-r1lZdy20&feature=plcp

Liggett was sharp on live commentary on Rolland's attack after Sky sat up: "He only speaks French"

ITV highlights clearly showed a worse case of selfishness: Tejay Van Garderen hearing Evans at the top of the climb and looking round for another BMC rider to stop for him.”

he was interviewed after the finish and I think he knew he was going to cop and earfull on the team bus. Couldn't believe it when I saw he was still in the lead group when his team leader needed a wheel.

real shame for Kiserlovski too
swingaleg
16-07-2012
Pictures underway on eurosport

124K to go

several attempts to get a breakaway going........David Millar has gone off again, but nothing established yet

Fairly flat stage, should be one for the sprinters providing the breakaway can be kept in check

Sky might have an easy day if Sagan, Griepel and Goss get their teams on the front to pull back the break
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