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TheFridge
28-07-2012
Originally Posted by Electra;59919344[B:
“]I think Uran was looking back to see how close the chasers were[/b]. Vino just saw the opportunity & took it. Anyone with any sense would have done the same. Vino would probably have out sprinted him anyway but why take the chance?”

He surely knew that info , they both knew it was between them from a lot further out imo.
Electra
28-07-2012
Originally Posted by TheFridge:
“He surely knew that info , they both knew it was between them from a lot further out imo.”

We see them do it all the time though
pixel_pixel
28-07-2012
Just saw the BBC News and someone asked Cavendish was the TdF/tiredness a factor in him loosing. He did not take that question too well. Seemed like a perfectly good question to me to ask him. Am I missing something here?
afx237vi
28-07-2012
Mail on Sunday tomorrow: http://twitpic.com/acu1xe

Wow... just wow.
Electra
28-07-2012
Originally Posted by afx237vi:
“Mail on Sunday tomorrow: http://twitpic.com/acu1xe

Wow... just wow.”

*speechless*
VincentH
28-07-2012
Lol. Sadly cycling's confusing team tactics (which makes it the best sport to watch) is also it's downfall.

Cavendish was right to complain about that question, as it wasn't about being tired from the TdF (he'd already said he felt good compared to last year after the tour), it was about the other teams, particularly the Germans with a strong contender in their team, not giving a fig to help the Brits out. It was as if they couldn't be bothered to even try winning. That's what Cavendish was upset about I imagine.

As for Vino being a nobody...you gotta laugh at the hopeless hack who wrote that. Makes a change from 'drug cheat' which would almost certainly be the slant the Mail would usually take.

Is it wrong that's there's a part of me that hopes that cycling remains baffling to the public at large, so they can go back to watching football, and we can enjoy cycling in peace...
swingaleg
28-07-2012
Originally Posted by VincentH:
“Is it wrong that's there's a part of me that hopes that cycling remains baffling to the public at large, so they can go back to watching football, and we can enjoy cycling in peace...”

There's been a lot of genuine enthusiasm from newbies in the Olympic forum and on here during the TdF.........

I'm quite happy to answer questions as best I can because I want other people to understand and enjoy a fantastic sport !

One of the newbies on the Olympic forum came out with 'blimey, this is chess on wheels'.............which is a well worn cliche, but he didn't know that !

That pleased me................it felt like we had a convert.
swingaleg
28-07-2012
That Mail front page sums up the Daily Mail
John Dough
28-07-2012
Originally Posted by Electra:
“ *speechless*”

A 'nobody' has spoilt the first day narrative but it's The Mail so here's a large pinch of salt............:sleep:

The 'essence' of a competition is that people 'compete' on an equal basis right?
pixel_pixel
28-07-2012
Its a shame the on screen graphics did not work. I imagine it would be something similar to F1 etc.
TheFridge
29-07-2012
Originally Posted by afx237vi:
“Mail on Sunday tomorrow: http://twitpic.com/acu1xe

Wow... just wow.”

I really f***** hate the press in this country i really do ,

The whole thing needs levelling.
TheFridge
29-07-2012
Originally Posted by Electra:
“We see them do it all the time though”

Really you see that all the time ?

Im fairly new to cycling getting interested in 2008 because of the Olympics/Cavs rise , i've never seen anything like that before.

Millars stage win in the Tour is what it should of ended like , even if one is a big underdog in the sprint you at least try don't you ?
walterwhite
29-07-2012
Originally Posted by TheFridge:
“I really f***** hate the press in this country i really do ,

The whole thing needs levelling.”

Shows what the Mail know, how can a sprinter be hot favourite in a race that is very rarely won by sprinters?
daisy08
29-07-2012
That Mail frontpage just shows what an ignorant load of idiots they are.

The BBC showing Fabian Cancellara crying at the end of the race whilst going on about how it's good for Wiggins' for the time trial annoyed me as well. You don't have to be pleased with someone else hurting themselves. Although maybe I'm just being overly touchy.
borodave
29-07-2012
*facepalm at DM*...

Havent seen any other papers but I bet they all go down the doping route.
borodave
29-07-2012
Originally Posted by VincentH:
“Is it wrong that's there's a part of me that hopes that cycling remains baffling to the public at large, so they can go back to watching football, and we can enjoy cycling in peace...”

Im undecided, on one hand I would love it if as a country we really got into cycling.

On the other hand, im already getting irritated by people who clearly know nothing about the sport thinking they are experts after watching two stages of the TDF and the Olympic RR.
aggs
29-07-2012
Originally Posted by walterwhite:
“Shows what the Mail know, how can a sprinter be hot favourite in a race that is very rarely won by sprinters?”

You can only win in a sprint if you are there at the end ... Germany <side eye and heavy emphasis>
Electra
29-07-2012
Originally Posted by TheFridge:
“Really you see that all the time ?

Im fairly new to cycling getting interested in 2008 because of the Olympics/Cavs rise , i've never seen anything like that before.

Millars stage win in the Tour is what it should of ended like , even if one is a big underdog in the sprint you at least try don't you ?”

We often see riders looking around in the final stretch, to see how far ahead they are. I often find myself shouting at them to stop doing it & just RIDE

I think Uran was just showing his inexperience tbh.
borodave
29-07-2012
Have been away for a while, so dont know if this has been posted, I've checked a few pages back and couldnt see it, so apologies if it has.

Greipel and the German track sprinter (who's name I cant remember) had a quad-off.

Greipel lost

https://twitter.com/#!/RobbieHunter/...com%2FRVWD5b2p
jcafcw
29-07-2012
In the women's road race the Germans are trying to pull back a breakaway after letting it go.

Who is deciding the German tactics?
Duncan J
29-07-2012
That guy on the motorbike just wrote up the time gap between the leaders and peloton. I thought at the Olympics they weren't supposed to know that information?
John259
29-07-2012
Originally Posted by jcafcw:
“In the women's road race the Germans are trying to pull back a breakaway after letting it go.

Who is deciding the German tactics?”

Good question. In the Tour de France the Directeur Sportif (team manager) would decide and tell the riders over their radios but I don't think radios are permitted in the Olympics.

The question of team radios is somewhat controversial. For example Phil Liggett is against them and I'm certainly not going to dispute his judgement.
fluffed
29-07-2012
They are supposed to get time gaps, as there's no radios, the motorbike with a chalkboard is the only way. Stuart O'Grady was having a right whinge yesterday during the race, about not getting the gap frequently enough.

Edit: The tactics will of been decided by the team beforehand, the riders themselves will change them as events unfold, with the captain (Millar yesterday, not sure who for the GB women today) being in charge on the road.
Duncan J
29-07-2012
Originally Posted by fluffed:
“They are supposed to get time gaps, as there's no radios, the motorbike with a chalkboard is the only way. Stuart O'Grady was having a right whinge yesterday during the race, about not getting the gap frequently enough.

Edit: The tactics will of been decided by the team beforehand, the riders themselves will change them as events unfold, with the captain (Millar yesterday, not sure who for the GB women today) being in charge on the road.”

Thanks
Jules 1
29-07-2012
During the time HTC was the dominant, racing was getting a bit boring, part of this was their dominance but team radios played their part.

This season saw more breakaways in the tour staying away, and if [I think this is planed] team radios are banned, then racing would get a lot more interesting.
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