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Lana del Rey Appreciation Thread
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Veri
07-12-2012
Originally Posted by rbautz:
“Interview and performance of Ride in France in HQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpV-6ZKjRBU”

Does she speak French? She answers in English but doesn't seem to be having the questions translated for her.

I like this comment on the video from tranche2pain:

Quote:
“I couldnt give two craps about her last week, then i watched a music video of Ride on my sister's computer. Now im spending hours watching her interviews.”



(I kinda know what that's like. )

And this one from 22USFBull:

Quote:
“She's not an auto tuned pop star. Lana has a sultry voice that isn't necessarily supposed to be perfect. It's raw, it has imperfections, it has emotion, and in that sense her live performances are more rock and roll and less pop star. Her attitude towards music is general is more rock star. People don't get that. They judge her the same way they would judge Katy Perry or American Idol contestants and it's not like that at all. It's like comparing apples and oranges.”

Veri
07-12-2012
Originally Posted by konebyvax:
“Us Lana obsessives can relax. Second album already in progress. And what a brilliant interview. Very smart lady.

http://stitcher.com/s/player.php?AGiAADwBV&refid=twsn”

That is an excellent interview -- and nearly 20 minutes long.

She knows where "metaphysics" came from too (Aristotle)

I'm not sure I should be surprised, but at least it's pleasantly surprised.
Veri
08-12-2012
Star Lana is real Rey of light

(From the Edinburgh (Scotland) Evening News.)

Quote:
“...

When it comes to the question of whose year it has been, however, Lana del Rey wins hands down, for my money at least.

The New Yorker was first mentioned on these pages a year ago, when just a few of her songs were floating about on the web. With her foxy locks, bee-stung lips and legs that go all the way to heaven, she oozed old Hollywood glamour which, combined with the quality of her haunting retro-pop songs, seemed a winning 
concoction.

And so it proved ...

Not for long, mind. After a dodgy vocal performance on Saturday Night Live ...

A flash-in-the pan? Not so fast.

As the year approaches its end, Del Rey, below, is turning around the opinion of many people with winning live performances as she steps out to promote the release of new eight-song Born To Die spin-off The Paradise Edition, which includes some of her best songs to date.

...”

Veri
08-12-2012
Photek's "Ride" remix: http://soundcloud.com/lana-del-rey/l...-remix/s-aLIlO

Article: Photek Releases Long Awaited Album "Ku:Palm" and Lana Del Rey Remix

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“His genre mixing and vocal sampling shows that he's still at the forefront of the EDM world, even if he's not a constant presence like R3HAB or Aoki. His remix of Lana Del Rey's "Ride" received widespread approval for his preservation of Lana's haunting vocals, while most DJs simply cut and pasted her voice into loops and drops”

DRAGON LANCE
08-12-2012
Whoa! Looks like you have just totally gotten into LDR Veri! Well better joining the party late than never, always nice to have some new people on board. I think that shows the fan base is growing.

To answer your question, no I'm not sure she does speak french. Well maybe a little; if you listen to her track Carmen that famously has her singing in French at one stage in the background.

But I think the drill is on foreign TV shows they actually tell you the questions before hand. That way the person being interviewed can come up with an interesting answer. I think they also have the person being interviewed wearing an earpiece and what's been said gets translated into that, just as the answers are being translated back to the TV audience into their native language.

She does seem to be rather popular in France, which is nice. I think they "get" her.

As for your point about Metaphysics she should know all about it as she's (famously) got a degree in it. She's a very intelligent woman!
Veri
09-12-2012
Hi, DRAGON LANCE.

Yes, I am getting into her, and there's a lot to get into. There's like a whole world of Youtube clips of Lana in her various incarnations.

I like a lot of her live performances. She has a very expressive voice and some great songs.

BTW, wondering about her degree took me to Wikipedia which took me to this from SPIN:

Deconstructing Lana Del Rey.

Do you know it? It's easily the best thing I've read about Lana so far.
trevvytrev21
09-12-2012
Originally Posted by Veri:
“Hi, DRAGON LANCE.

Yes, I am getting into her, and there's a lot to get into. There's like a whole world of Youtube clips of Lana in her various incarnations.

I like a lot of her live performances. She has a very expressive voice and some great songs.

BTW, wondering about her degree took me to Wikipedia which took me to this from SPIN:

Deconstructing Lana Del Rey.

Do you know it? It's easily the best thing I've read about Lana so far.”

I was going to PM you a Lana unreleased YouTube link but you're already on your way.
Veri
09-12-2012
Originally Posted by trevvytrev21:
“I was going to PM you a Lana unreleased YouTube link but you're already on your way.”

Thanks for the thought.

It looks like new clips keep appearing all the time too, even when she hasn't done anything new: remixes, cover versions of her songs, new copies of songs already up (sometimes with a fan-made video), and even how-to-look-like-Lana makeup guides.
DRAGON LANCE
09-12-2012
There certainly is a whole world of Lana You-Tube vids, you'll have a lot of fun going through them!

That Spin article is a fair enough perspective on Lana I suppose. The person who has written it has actually done some research and not just come up with a load of B.S. like so many others do. As you've probably already gathered from that and what others say about her, she's had to take a ridiculous amount of hate, probably the most I have ever seen a credible artist take in the whole of music history.

Most of it hinges on the simple fact that she's lucky enough to have a rich dad. Off the back of this with no form of verification what-so-ever a load of US music press and internet blogs made up a load of codswallop that rich dad had somehow paid for his little princess to be the "manufactured Britney Spears" of Indie music and she's just a major label puppet. Internet trolls have parroted this ever since.

As you might have also gathered from Spin its all complete nonsense. There's a whole host of evidence that proves she slogged her guts out for years before being lucky enough to get a major label deal. She's really one of the most self-made artists on the planet and has a very distinct style she's created herself. I really do not know how you "fake" that!

Just for your Info Veri if you want a loose playlist to You-Tube of what Lana's done over the years;

Her first (known) album is called Sirens and she recorded it under the name of May Jailer. People seem to think she did it when she was 19. It’s an acoustic record, just her singing and playing guitar. Some people might say it’s a Lo-Fi work but I think it’s beautiful.

There's MySpace page under the name of Sparkle Rope Jump Queen which is her again, and has demos of acoustic tracks Elvis and Axel Rose Husband. The last one is a very telling song title as gossip mags seem to think she's having some sort of fling with the old rocker! Its perhaps worth saying her actual confirmed boyfriend is a young chap called Barry James O’Neill from Scottish Folk Rock band Kassidy.

Indeed the track Bel Air from the Paradise Edition has all sorts of Axel Rose references in its lyrics, make of that what you will. She's obviously quite fond of him either way.

You then get the one we call the Lizzy Grant album, the infamous album that she pulled the plug on at the last minute and bought off the record company before it got fully released. It’s a great album though; some of her best work is on there.

And then we get Born to Die + The Paradise Edition which you should be aware of.

Oh and on top of that you've got a seemingly endless stream of leaked songs. There literally seems to be a new batch every other week. She claims that people hack her e-mail and steal them, which makes me a little sad if that's true. But (not that I'm knocking her one bit for doing it if this is the case) a lot of fans think she's got to be putting them out there herself. Again draw your own conclusion.

The point is the quality of these unreleased songs is stunning! Try You-Tubing the following tracks: On Our Way, Driving in Cars with Boys, You Can Be the Boss, Kinda Outta Luck, Never Let Me Go, Serial Killer, Ooo Baby, Summer of Sam, Children of the Bad Revolution, Paris and Damn You, as a taste of them.

It’s quite painful from a fans point of view to think that many of these probably will just remain on the Web only and never get put on albums. But that lot should keep you going for some time!
rbautz
09-12-2012
speaking of leaked songs

Lana Del Rey - Is it wrong?

https://soundcloud.com/van-vogue/lan...ey-is-it-wrong



Lana Del Auto-tune - Making out


https://soundcloud.com/van-vogue/lan...-making-out-v2
Veri
09-12-2012
Is "Making Out" new? There seems to be an auto-tune version (with auto-tune used as an effect) and a non-auto-tune version, as in this clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ot31VMhIuw

BTW, it can be eek: fascinating to go to Youtube, search for lana del rey, and use the filtering to see what was uploaded today (past 24 hours).

For example, the first page of results just now:

Lana Del Rey inspired hair tutorial
Vlogmas - Lana Del Rey Makeup Tutorial - 80's Style!
Mashupbambi - Blue Rain (Lana Del Rey / Moby / Madonna / Sarah Brightman / Emma Hewitt)
Lana del rey - without you (cover)
BLUE VELVET - LANA DEL REY
My Best Days - Lana Del Rey Lyrics
Lana Del Rey - Off To The Races
NOBRA COBRA - RIDE (LANA DEL REY) cover
Cover of Pawn shop blues- Lana Del Rey
Lana Del Rey - Summertime Sadness (Cover)
// Summertime Sadness - Lana Del Rey (Cover) //
LANA DEL REY - IS IT WRONG (UNRELEASED)
Born To Die by Lana Del Rey (cover)
Lana Del Rey - American (Video)
"Body Electric" - Lana Del Rey cover
Lana Del Rey- Blue Jeans (Cover by Jaime & Salem)
Lana Del Rey Blue Jeans Cover - by Sharon Rachman
Lana Del Rey - Blue Jeans (KaZak remix) HD
1000 words | lady gaga, lana del rey, nicki minaj, natalia kills
Lana Del Rey: Serial Killer (DJ EZ$ REMIX)
Veri
09-12-2012
I like this: Lana Del Rey - Is It Wrong? (Full Song Leaked)
Veri
10-12-2012
Originally Posted by DRAGON LANCE:
“There certainly is a whole world of Lana You-Tube vids, you'll have a lot of fun going through them!

That Spin article is a fair enough perspective on Lana I suppose. The person who has written it has actually done some research and not just come up with a load of B.S. like so many others do. As you've probably already gathered from that and what others say about her, she's had to take a ridiculous amount of hate, probably the most I have ever seen a credible artist take in the whole of music history.

Most of it hinges on the simple fact that she's lucky enough to have a rich dad. Off the back of this with no form of verification what-so-ever a load of US music press and internet blogs made up a load of codswallop that rich dad had somehow paid for his little princess to be the "manufactured Britney Spears" of Indie music and she's just a major label puppet. Internet trolls have parroted this ever since.

As you might have also gathered from Spin its all complete nonsense. There's a whole host of evidence that proves she slogged her guts out for years before being lucky enough to get a major label deal. She's really one of the most self-made artists on the planet and has a very distinct style she's created herself. I really do not know how you "fake" that!”

I hope the SPIN article is a sign that people will see things differently if they actually bother to look beyond superficial appearances and prejudices.

I'm glad I encountered Lana's music in the way I did, hearing her on 6 Music and Later, then exploring Youtube, rather than coming to it with negative ideas in my head from the press.

Quote:
“Just for your Info Veri if you want a loose playlist to You-Tube of what Lana's done over the years;

Her first (known) album is called Sirens and she recorded it under the name of May Jailer. People seem to think she did it when she was 19. It’s an acoustic record, just her singing and playing guitar. Some people might say it’s a Lo-Fi work but I think it’s beautiful.

There's MySpace page under the name of Sparkle Rope Jump Queen which is her again, and has demos of acoustic tracks Elvis and Axel Rose Husband. The last one is a very telling song title as gossip mags seem to think she's having some sort of fling with the old rocker! Its perhaps worth saying her actual confirmed boyfriend is a young chap called Barry James O’Neill from Scottish Folk Rock band Kassidy.

Indeed the track Bel Air from the Paradise Edition has all sorts of Axel Rose references in its lyrics, make of that what you will. She's obviously quite fond of him either way.

You then get the one we call the Lizzy Grant album, the infamous album that she pulled the plug on at the last minute and bought off the record company before it got fully released. It’s a great album though; some of her best work is on there.

And then we get Born to Die + The Paradise Edition which you should be aware of.

Oh and on top of that you've got a seemingly endless stream of leaked songs. There literally seems to be a new batch every other week. She claims that people hack her e-mail and steal them, which makes me a little sad if that's true. But (not that I'm knocking her one bit for doing it if this is the case) a lot of fans think she's got to be putting them out there herself. Again draw your own conclusion.

The point is the quality of these unreleased songs is stunning! Try You-Tubing the following tracks: On Our Way, Driving in Cars with Boys, You Can Be the Boss, Kinda Outta Luck, Never Let Me Go, Serial Killer, Ooo Baby, Summer of Sam, Children of the Bad Revolution, Paris and Damn You, as a taste of them.

It’s quite painful from a fans point of view to think that many of these probably will just remain on the Web only and never get put on albums. But that lot should keep you going for some time!”

Thanks!

I have found many of those things, but not all. I like "Damn You" a lot.

The May Jailer songs are interesting. I like the way she plays the guitar (finger picking(?)), and that the wistfulness of her voice contrasts with some of the lyrics; but i would like the hear the songs -- not more "produced", but -- with better sound quality (all too often a problem with Youtube clips).

It's too bad she's acquired a reputation for being unable to sing live. (It's very unfortunate that the SNL performance, which I haven't see and am not inclined to seek out, came before people had much else to go on.) I hope that reputation fades as she does more live performances and more people go to the events or listen to the clips.

I think I prefer some of the live versions of the Born to Die songs to the album ones. I like the band she plays with, and the strings. There may still be effects. In one of the interview clips, the interviewer says (though not to criticise) "why does she sound like she's in a tunnel" when she says something into her singing mic (it's just reverb). But it's still a plainer approach, and I think the natural subtleties of her voice come through better that way, live.
Clancey83
10-12-2012
Favourite Lana leak in a while: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxfU4vRbSr4
DRAGON LANCE
10-12-2012
Like those latest ones rbautz, stunned again that these songs just keep flooding out. Keep 'em coming!

Glad you like Damn You, Veri it’s a track that does seem to have gone down rather well with most fans. It’s an overlooked thing that she can actually play guitar. She is indeed a very good finger picker of the instrument. As for her voice, the only effects are just a bit of standard mic reverb or echo (which everybody uses). It’s all her own voice and she really can sing that well! She has an incredible amount of vocal range and I love how she plays around with that when she sings. The things she can do just blow me away and I doubt many other singers could sing like she does. Only time she's using autotune or similar pitch shifting effects is on some of the hip hop /dance styled songs to give it that Kesha style warble. She doesn't use any of that live.

Indeed if you want to get technical about it I remember reading an interview with production duo "Robopop" (who produced Born to Die) in music production mag Sound on Sound and they confirmed the above, plus also said all they used on top of that was a bit of compression on the mix to make it sound crisper. Which is again a pretty standard music production trick and nothing dodgy leading to voice warping/cheating. They actually stressed that they did very little with the recordings apart from add their synths and electro sounds, sometimes they speeded up some of the songs too.

Video Games itself was actually just a demo they put together from her singing and her co-writer Justin Parker playing piano. Next thing the Robopop chaps knew the "demo" had been released and become a worldwide hit!

As you've seen from the You-Tube vids the whole "she can't sing live" claim is b*llocks. I've seen her myself, she's amazing, and I would highly recommend (if you haven't done so already) get yourself a ticket for one of the live shows she's doing next year.

I think most fans are sick to death of hearing haters dribble on about bloody SNL now. It’s like continually rating a great football player off a goal they missed early in their career and ignoring everything good they've done that's great since. It wears rather thin that LDR keeps taking abuse over it when she's proved countless times she can not only sing live, but she can sing rather incredibly well live to boot.

If there was a flaw it’s that she got stage fright from hell and her nerves were overwhelming her on things like SNL. But (and it’s something I admire about her tremendously) she came back from that. She’s knuckled down, played small gigs and built up her confidence again and now she's playing decent sized venues without any hiccups at all. It’s been wonderful watching her find her feet and grow.

The other thing is SNL happened at the height of all the internet hate bullsh*t and I think it affected her. She does come across as a very, very shy sensitive person and a lot of that was probably very hard for her to take. She just didn't deserve it.

But I suppose on an upswing of that it galvanised the fan base and made a lot of people that do like her (such as the ones on this board) come out in support.

And yes that shy sensitive person seems a totally bizarre contradiction to the confident bad girl you hear on the records. Oh the bad girl is there too, you'd be naive if you didn't acknowledge that. She's got a tough girl side too and if nothing else is a survivor. But it’s coupled with someone who genuinely seems to be one of the nicest, warmest, sweetest people on the planet. She often goes out of her way to meet fans and sign autographs. Many people who have met her have remarked upon how incredibly nice she is and you can that and you can see it in interviews. She's just all in all quite an extraordinary person!
DRAGON LANCE
10-12-2012
And another darned nice track, thank-you Clancy83!
konebyvax
10-12-2012
Originally Posted by DRAGON LANCE:
“Like those latest ones rbautz, stunned again that these songs just keep flooding out. Keep 'em coming!

Glad you like Damn You, Veri it’s a track that does seem to have gone down rather well with most fans. It’s an overlooked thing that she can actually play guitar. She is indeed a very good finger picker of the instrument. As for her voice, the only effects are just a bit of standard mic reverb or echo (which everybody uses). It’s all her own voice and she really can sing that well! She has an incredible amount of vocal range and I love how she plays around with that when she sings. The things she can do just blow me away and I doubt many other singers could sing like she does. Only time she's using autotune or similar pitch shifting effects is on some of the hip hop /dance styled songs to give it that Kesha style warble. She doesn't use any of that live.

Indeed if you want to get technical about it I remember reading an interview with production duo "Robopop" (who produced Born to Die) in music production mag Sound on Sound and they confirmed the above, plus also said all they used on top of that was a bit of compression on the mix to make it sound crisper. Which is again a pretty standard music production trick and nothing dodgy leading to voice warping/cheating. They actually stressed that they did very little with the recordings apart from add their synths and electro sounds, sometimes they speeded up some of the songs too.

Video Games itself was actually just a demo they put together from her singing and her co-writer Justin Parker playing piano. Next thing the Robopop chaps knew the "demo" had been released and become a worldwide hit!

As you've seen from the You-Tube vids the whole "she can't sing live" claim is b*llocks. I've seen her myself, she's amazing, and I would highly recommend (if you haven't done so already) get yourself a ticket for one of the live shows she's doing next year.

I think most fans are sick to death of hearing haters dribble on about bloody SNL now. It’s like continually rating a great football player off a goal they missed early in their career and ignoring everything good they've done that's great since. It wears rather thin that LDR keeps taking abuse over it when she's proved countless times she can not only sing live, but she can sing rather incredibly well live to boot.

If there was a flaw it’s that she got stage fright from hell and her nerves were overwhelming her on things like SNL. But (and it’s something I admire about her tremendously) she came back from that. She’s knuckled down, played small gigs and built up her confidence again and now she's playing decent sized venues without any hiccups at all. It’s been wonderful watching her find her feet and grow.

The other thing is SNL happened at the height of all the internet hate bullsh*t and I think it affected her. She does come across as a very, very shy sensitive person and a lot of that was probably very hard for her to take. She just didn't deserve it.

But I suppose on an upswing of that it galvanised the fan base and made a lot of people that do like her (such as the ones on this board) come out in support.

And yes that shy sensitive person seems a totally bizarre contradiction to the confident bad girl you hear on the records. Oh the bad girl is there too, you'd be naive if you didn't acknowledge that. She's got a tough girl side too and if nothing else is a survivor. But it’s coupled with someone who genuinely seems to be one of the nicest, warmest, sweetest people on the planet. She often goes out of her way to meet fans and sign autographs. Many people who have met her have remarked upon how incredibly nice she is and you can that and you can see it in interviews. She's just all in all quite an extraordinary person!”


All backed up by video evidence! One of many on youtube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfDjO_lZG8s
Veri
11-12-2012
I just want to make sure I have this right. Is the Paradise edition of Born to Die identical to the original except for having more songs? Or are there differences in the Born to Die songs?
trevvytrev21
11-12-2012
Originally Posted by Veri:
“I just want to make sure I have this right. Is the Paradise edition of Born to Die identical to the original except for having more songs? Or are there differences in the Born to Die songs?”

Born To Die: Paradise Edition has two discs. The first, BTD, is identical to the deluxe version of her debut. It has three or four extra songs than the standard edition of BTD. The second disc has the eight brand new songs including "Ride". It's a steal!
Veri
11-12-2012
Originally Posted by trevvytrev21:
“Born To Die: Paradise Edition has two discs. The first, BTD, is identical to the deluxe version of her debut. It has three or four extra songs than the standard edition of BTD. The second disc has the eight brand new songs including "Ride". It's a steal!”

Thanks.
HelloRain
11-12-2012
Just popped in to let everyone know I've got this song on repeat at the moment

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evkbfminHGY

I think I like it better than the album version
trevvytrev21
11-12-2012
Originally Posted by HelloRain:
“Just popped in to let everyone know I've got this song on repeat at the moment

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evkbfminHGY

I think I like it better than the album version ”

Thank you, that is brilliant!

I love the remedy/memory/melody bridge in Dark Paradise, so I missed that a bit in the demo you posted but the production and feel is better than the album version, I agree.
HelloRain
11-12-2012
Originally Posted by trevvytrev21:
“Thank you, that is brilliant!

I love the remedy/memory/melody bridge in Dark Paradise, so I missed that a bit in the demo you posted but the production and feel is better than the album version, I agree.”

No problem I think her vocals sound better in the demo, not that they're that much different to the final version, but I just liked that particular vocal take better, I think.
Makson
11-12-2012
As per usual, another case where the demo is even better than the final version!
Love the chorus in the demo version of Dark Paradise.
Veri
11-12-2012
What's the name of this song?

Lana Del Rey LIVE for Mulberry
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