Anyone defending the decision... have you gone utterly bonkers? Heidi didn't skate. She got picked up, carried around and looked pretty. Get over. Yes, Mark was the worst; but at least he gave it a go. Same with Andi.

You would think after quite a few series of DOI, people could figure out the crap skaters when they're spending more time being dragged around/in the air/anything not to do with skating.

The show is dancing on ice. Its not about proving you can skate a bit on your own. The word skating never appears in the title - because skating without dancing would be totally boring. Contestants also have to skate the routine they are told to. If T and D write you a routine to be carried around a lot, you have to be marked on how well you perform your routine - not someone elses. Heidi did her routine well - including getting in and out of lifts. Andy was messy, gangly and out of sync with the music and his partner and his lifts stuttered. He scores for doing somethings she didn't do at all - but she scores for doing more of her routine accurately. Its essentially exactly the same as any exam - if all questions carry the same marks, you don't do as well if you do more difficult questions but less well.

Very well said!!! Case closed IMO

I agreed with Heidi staying over Andy A. I actually thought Andy A did the worst performance on the night but with him being third on the leaderboard (way overmarked, in my opinion), I thought he'd be safe. I'm glad he wasn't as his performance was a mess. Just because a performance is "fast", doesn't excuse the sloppiness. He made even more mistakes in the skate off, whereas Heidi improved.

Whilst Heidi was "carried around" for much of her routine, that isn't her choice. It's not SCD where the pros decide the routine, the routine is given to them by Chris & Jayne.

The judges should always base their vote on the skate off, as otherwise what's the point of it? Heidi performed much better and showed potential, whilst Andy's performance was a even bigger mess than his first.

Mark is from Wolverhampton.

Great post and agree completely.

She did skate and you seem to be implying that being picked up, carried around and looking pretty all at the same time is easy....it isn't, its rather hard to maintain the correct position during the course of the lift, while in the air and while returning to the ice.

What on earth do you do on ice if you don't skate? I'm not saying being picked up is easy, but its a lot easier than skating on your own trying to put your own moves on the ice. Don't you agree? Andi may not be a natural dancer, but Heidi didn't make her own moves at all unless she was being dragged around or being picked up by her partner. It isn't just about being marked on doing the routine perfect. It's the technicalities witnessed and presented of how they skate also. If you can barely skate on your own, of course you deserve a low mark; regardless how good it is. That's why I rated Andi above Heidi. No way was Andi's routine perfect, but he had much more potential in his ability.

I dare you to watch the finals of each of the series again. If this ain't a skating competition, then you and ITV have got me fooled.

I'd say it was the worst skate off result ever. Andy was head & shoulders better than Heidi and had loads more potential such a shame he's left. Yes he was a tad sloppy but he was much better on the ice and gave a great performance too, with lots of personality. Heidi was slow, stiff and boring to watch. To those saying that she only did what TnD gave her to do, I suspect based on what we saw on the VT that that was deliberate. They played to her strengths which is looking elegant whilst being aided & abetted by her partner. Still based on tonight's performance & her lack of votes i doubt she'll last much longer.

Very well said Case closed IMO.

Agreed.

On one level I am glad Heidi stayed - having had to deal with a change of partner just 2 weeks ago.

However am surprised she was judged better - as with a lot of the weaker female skaters who progress she never once skated solo. Andrei basically carried her the whole way.

At least Andy did solo skating - and seemed a lot more confident as well.

A good male pro can make almost any female celeb look good - but weak male celeb has no such protection.

Also I think Andy's sloppiness is easier to fix than Heidi's lack of skating and tentativeness on the ice as we saw with Kerry last year.

I hope someone from ITV is reading all this. Andy was robbed.

I agree with this. Of course many people would disagree and feel that Andy should have been saved, but I thought he was sloppy as well as floppy and that, once Heidi improves in confidence, her ability will improve as well.

It is the nature of the competition that we will like some aspects of the performance more than others - just as Katarina preferred Andy's performance but Louie and Robin didn't. What I don't understand at all is the assertion from some forum members that just because they disagree with the decision it must have been a fix. *shrug*

I'll be completely honest , I get a bit pee'd of with comments like 'she got out of the lift excellently' 'she didn't choreograph the routine', as someone that knows f**k all about skating , I want to be entertained, Heidi was not entertaining, it was boring. I was so disappointed. I really felt robin 'sold out' on this one, reminded me of the vanilla ice/Jennifer metcalfe, he picked who he wanted to see again as they were more entertaining. Hope she improves or she will be out fairly early, hope I don't offend , just my opinion.

I like Heidi but I didn't like her performance much. It was tentative and rather dull. Andy was more gung ho (the control will come later with practice). He had greater potential.

Also, to those saying Heidi only did what T & D choreographed, you have to ask the question WHY did they choreograph the way they did. If there wasn't much (solo) skating, is it because Heidi isn't confident/capable enough yet? That sounds faesible to me because T & D explicitly said the new judging panel would be expecting the celebrities to demonstrate more basic skating. And I think Andy did a better job of doing that tonight.

Well you said it.

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I was literally raging at that comment ?! You were going to get it both barrels then! Amazing what a smiley face can do! I don't like 'elitist' comments that happens on the scd/doi forum, I represent 95% plus of the bp, my opinion still counts. Heidi was in my top 5 before her performance.

Actually the comment above has p**sed me off, clearly I'm just an imbecile , whose opinion doesn't matter because 'her lift was so beautiful'.

Very disappointed in Robin going for the pretty but dull girl who can't skate over the guy who can skate pretty well with speed and lift his partner well and i thought his dance moves were rather nice. Yes he needs a bit of finessing but the basics were there and he looked to have lots of potential. Heidi was incredibly stiff and extremely slow over the ice. She did do a nice spiral held up by Andrei but appeared totally incapable of any independent movement. Dull dull dull and did I say, dull!

Oh and to be honest I thought she came over as totally bland off the ice too - at least Andy had a personality.

I thought it was a hard decision to call and a decent case could be made either way. As such I felt bad for Andy going out and would have felt similarly if it had been Heidi. I certainly don't think it was the clear cut decision or rank injustice some seem to be suggesting. Of course as has been much said elsewhere, it really should have been Mark going out.

Hi five !!!