[duffsdad]

Originally Posted by kat180

Why didn't they give Paolo any brandy! Why!!

He was probably happy to go quietly in case there was a sequel.

[Fudd]

Originally Posted by duffsdad

According to one programme this afternoon, they stopped the wages of the crew who survived from the moment of the crash as "they weren't working"..

I thought it was the moment it sunk - as there wasn't a ship to work on from then.

Originally Posted by AJ21

ITV's titanic could have been great, it started off well but unfortunately became a damp squib

It did? Were you watching the right show?

[JasonMason]

Originally Posted by duffsdad

He was probably happy to go quietly in case there was a sequel.

Plus they knew that his intended was planning to become Doctor Who's latest companion so they wanted to spare him certain heartbreak, also saving brandy.

[AJ21]

Originally Posted by Fudd

I thought it was the moment it sunk - as there wasn't a ship to work on from then.



It did? Were you watching the right show?

the first episode was good

[woot_whoo]

Originally Posted by JasonMason

Plus they knew that his intended was planning to become Doctor Who's latest companion so they wanted to spare him certain heartbreak, also saving brandy.

Well, the brandy had to be spared to bring Patrick Crawley back to life in Downton Abbey (it didn't cure his WWI burned face though, and it gave him a Canadian accent).

[woot_whoo]

Originally Posted by AJ21

the first episode was good

I thought the first episode was as dreadful as the last. I have absolutely no desire to watch this show again.

[Fudd]

Originally Posted by AJ21

the first episode was good

I preferred the third. I felt it was close to working at that point. The first had promising moments but didn't take advantage of them; very much like the fourth. The second was very weak.

[JasonMason]

Originally Posted by woot_whoo

Well, the brandy had to be spared to bring Patrick Crawley back to life in Downton Abbey (it didn't cure his WWI burned face though, and it gave him a Canadian accent).

Jeez, this is some tincture!

[stvn758]

Might have been better if they doubled up the episodes, only watched the last one but it was pretty rushed. For such an event an hour minus breaks doesn't give much time to show anything in great detail.

[stargazer61]

Originally Posted by stvn758

Might have been better if they doubled up the episodes, only watched the last one but it was pretty rushed. For such an event an hour minus breaks doesn't give much time to show anything in great detail.

Don't think there was much detail to be shown and much of what was, was so dark it was almost impossible to see. Guess it covered up the poor sets and paucity of passengers

[AJ21]

Originally Posted by stargazer61

Don't think there was much detail to be shown and much of what was, was so dark it was almost impossible to see. Guess it covered up the poor sets and paucity of passengers

surely the producers and editors would have seen how dark it was and that you could not properly follow what was happening because of how dark it was

[CD93]

For the record, I had no issues with the brightness - so I can't comment on that....

[violetcrawley]

The iceberg was the best thing about this series.

[cbcdesign]

So hit and miss! The actual exterior of the ship looked pretty good. Sets though we're poor and very inaccurate.

The lack of wave motion they can almost get away with. The night Titanic sank the water was dead calm. A number of captains commented on how unusual the conditions were that night in fact. I have seen this myself just once in the Severn estuary many years ago. It's quite weird!

It was not that dark though. In fact many survivors mentioned that the number of stars visible was tremendous. Titanic was visible against the star lit sky too and A survivor mentioned light from the stars helping him surface when he testified at the inquest. I guess they went for the dark look for cost reasons.

No way would crew have criticised the speed either. Many captains testified that travelling at 21 knots on a calm clear night even with burgs around was normal practice. Ice burgs big enough to sink ships were usually visible well before they presented any sort of hazard in such conditions. In fact the latest theory is that very unusual conditions caused a mirage effect that masked the ice burg which is why fleet didn't,t see it until they were almost on top of it.

I think if they had gone for a more linear story telling approach, spent a bit of money on cgi for bodies, stars etc and got their facts right, this could have been a very good series. As it was, it was all a bit disappointing frankly.

[roddydogs]

So why was there no Noise when they struck the Berg?, would they really have just watched it and done sweet FA?

[CD93]

Originally Posted by roddydogs

would they really have just watched it and done sweet FA?

What other measures would you have performed other than steering the ship out of the way (despite that being an awful move now)? Begun throwing passengers on to the iceberg to wait for rescue, perhaps, or taking every life jacket and bed mattress and using them to plug the holes, maybe? - as James Cameron & co suggested in his "Final Word."

Actually, lets all play that game now. You know the ship is sinking and you don't have long - using what we know today, how would you save as many passengers as possible?

Order the crew to build rafts using furniture? (as we saw Mario and Paolo attempt to do I'll add ) Try to steer the ship towards nearby vessels for as long as possible? Attempt to block the flooding as much as possible? Reverse back and pile people on to the iceberg? Attempt to head towards the ice fields? Go back in time and prevent Scotland Road from ever being designed?

[SparklingEyes]

For something that I was looking forward to so much, this mini series has been the most massive disappointment.
I recorded last night's episode and watched it later in the evening. I actually fast forwarded a lot of the scenes because I was so incredibly bored with the whole programme and couldn't care less who was saved and who drowned.
I have never felt less involved in a show or the characters, I only continued watching because this was a real story of historic importance.

[sarahj1986]

overall a pretty rubbish show. I thought episode 3 was the best out of the bunch but the fourth was still ok. The CGI effects were rubbish and I cant believe a little brandy brought Manton back! overall a disappointing series

[seejay63]

Originally Posted by coffeetwosugars

I need to exorcise the Fellowes debacle .. I like facts. And Richard E Grant

My husband grew up in Swaziland, like REG did, and remembers him from the Theatre Club there (when he was still Richard Esterhuizen). REG was a couple of years older than him so they weren't friends, but apparently REG used to put puppet shows on for the younger children.

[seejay63]

Originally Posted by CD93

Actually, lets all play that game now. You know the ship is sinking and you don't have long - using what we know today, how would you save as many passengers as possible?

Well for a start I'd begin the filling of the lifeboats earlier than they did - I read a timeline yesterday and the first lifeboat wasn't launched until over an hour after hitting the iceberg, despite the captain being told by the designer within 20 minutes that the ship would sink within a couple of hours.

[Abbasolutely 40]

The problem with the whole show for me was I didnt give a fiddlers who lived or died .I had no connection with anyone , didnt care if they drowned or sank .

[Richupton]

Originally Posted by Andagha

Wow nasty trevor from EE turned out to be quite a nice chap in the end

I don't wish to be a pedant but it was Owen from Eastenders (married to Denise , father of Libby and bumped off by Lucas ). Apologies if this has already been posted

[Kapellmeister]

Originally Posted by seejay63

Well for a start I'd begin the filling of the lifeboats earlier than they did - I read a timeline yesterday and the first lifeboat wasn't launched until over an hour after hitting the iceberg, despite the captain being told by the designer within 20 minutes that the ship would sink within a couple of hours.

I think tests afterwards showed that the big lifeboats could actually be lowered holding over 100 people, and they had all been tested at Belfast. Either way, letting the boats leave the ship with only 20 or 30 people on board was criminal negligence. The standard capacity for all the boats was 1178. Some of the collapsible ones weren't even launched properly by the time the ship sank!

[Dawn Sun]

Originally Posted by AJ21

the first episode was good

Have you been at the Wonder Brandy??

[violetcrawley]

I agree with the poster who said it was very disrespectful for ITV to mention the only way is Essex was on next whilst the credits were still rolling.

I was shocked they could be so insensitive.