Originally Posted by
Mrs Nicky Wire:
“Evening all 
Hope you're all well.
There's loads of posts I'd have liked to respond to but there's prob too many!!
Qwerty - like it or not he does point out the obvious rather a lot & yes it kinda is in a p*ss take way but I'd much rather read tweets like that as opposed to horrible vile hatred tweets which are sent.
Sounds like Josie is having a lovely holiday, good for her!
Oh and in response to Augusta (I think!) I wouldn't see it as 'sad' to belong to either muckers or loys, it's everyones choice. It's just a shame the few people within each group cause the problems that seem to occur & I'll say one thing I don't really like - the need for those 'mods' of these groups to keep info/pics etc a secret, not when many supporters aren't members of the group.
Anyways I personally don't see myself as either, I'm still a joint supporter and hopefully always will be. Neither John or Josie should be placed on a pedestal, they ain't perfect & they ain't heroes. They're them - thank fooook! x x”
Actually I do agree with you....but im not personally prepared to take info from a private fb page and put it into what often ends up being a pretty hostile public arena....
But i dont actually think that there have been any proper info kept secret though on the loys....

when John wished the loys happy christmas, he put the same message onto twitter as well....
.......there have been a couple of joky pics of John and his friends that have been sent to loys......like the one someone described earlier of John on his phone...
which are just meant as fun snaps....not as anything serious...
they are private pics...not public...
and unfortunately if they get onto somewhere like twitter...these private fun snaps seem to get defaced by people like puck...
and instead of being a bit of fun....the people in them are treated as objects of ridicule..
which is a shame.....
now that photo of John was published on twitter, I cant imagine him releasing anything again on loys.....cos he cant trust a private forum to keep anything private...
and Josie also is going to have to learn to keep secrets, she is actually sharing a lot less with fans than she did just after she had left BB...
so on one level everyone is losing out.......