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I know why they voted to send Andy home last week. |
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I know why they voted to send Andy home last week.
It's obvious the panel were "advised" to save Heidi over Andy because otherwise the majority of the celebs left skating would have been males. They really showed up the females tonight, and last week too.
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It's obvious the panel were "advised" to save Heidi over Andy because otherwise the majority of the celebs left skating would have been males. They really showed up the females tonight, and last week too.
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I don't know why Jorgie got such high marks last week, she didn't do much skating on her own, she just happened to have good lines etc. because she trained as a classical dancer.
However, the point is that so far the male celebs have been far better on average than the females. |
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I think its mainly to do with Heidi being a bigger name...part of sugababes for over 10 years. They should have kept Andy - Heidi is overshadowed by several other females in the competition now.
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The thing is you can't compare a male to a female. A male has to have the strength and the balance on the ice to worry about when doing the lift and all the female has to worry about is the lines and doing the right thing so its a lot easier for a female when doing a lift.
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The thing is you can't compare a male to a female. A male has to have the strength and the balance on the ice to worry about when doing the lift and all the female has to worry about is the lines and doing the right thing so its a lot easier for a female when doing a lift.
Once you get to a certain standard of lifts, its a more level playing field and you can compare Chris being able to do something as difficult as a headbanger with Suzanne doing one. Tonight the boys were working at the easier levels of Heidis routine - not Jorgies difficult moves. |
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As the most memorable bit of the routine is probably the lifts, the female celebs also find themselves competing directly with the female pros, while the female celebs are taking the attention away from how good or weak their male celeb is.
No - i think lifts are often over rated. And yes a flexible girl like Jen can make a lift look amazing and take the emphasis off the actual skating. The man has to skate...end of.. I think both sexes have diffciult areas to contend with but on the DOI level, it is much harder to lift that partner over your head, maintain blance and speed than it is to be lifted. It is scary to do many of the lifts (table springs to mind) and the trust has to be here but the actual execution for some one like Jorgie or Jennifer who are trained dancers is not as difficult as the novice male skater lifting the partner into a table lift or even doing a standard floating spin. |
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Tonight the boys were working at the easier levels of Heidis routine - not Jorgies difficult moves.
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The thing is you can't compare a male to a female. A male has to have the strength and the balance on the ice to worry about when doing the lift and all the female has to worry about is the lines and doing the right thing so its a lot easier for a female when doing a lift.
Andy was better than Hedi last week so should've stayed but in general I don't think the boys where necessarily better. Shemmy and Jogie stood out then and the boys stood out now (this week) it's as simple as that for me. |
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The thing is you can't compare a male to a female. A male has to have the strength and the balance on the ice to worry about when doing the lift and all the female has to worry about is the lines and doing the right thing so its a lot easier for a female when doing a lift.
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I think there are the "big money" signings and the ones which are a little more "throwaway".
The ITV execs want to keep their big names in if possible. |
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As the most memorable bit of the routine is probably the lifts, the female celebs also find themselves competing directly with the female pros, while the female celebs are taking the attention away from how good or weak their male celeb is.
No - i think lifts are often over rated. And yes a flexible girl like Jen can make a lift look amazing and take the emphasis off the actual skating. The man has to skate...end of.. I think both sexes have diffciult areas to contend with but on the DOI level, it is much harder to lift that partner over your head, maintain blance and speed than it is to be lifted. It is scary to do many of the lifts (table springs to mind) and the trust has to be here but the actual execution for some one like Jorgie or Jennifer who are trained dancers is not as difficult as the novice male skater lifting the partner into a table lift or even doing a standard floating spin. |
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Showed this thread to my feminist support group.
They started fuming,something about women have to achieve twice as much as men to get any recognition.
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