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Old 20-01-2012, 01:01   #1
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Um...who blew up the Tardis?

It's occurred to me that we still don't know why the Tardis blew up in series 5 (leading to the cracks in the universe etc). Or was this explained and I missed it? Was it the Silence?

Has this been forgotten - or will Mr Moffat explain this at some point?
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Old 20-01-2012, 01:03   #2
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Presumably it was the Silence.

There was also no explanation of how River Song got to the Ponds wedding, given there was no doctor in that universe at that point. I don't suppose there ever will be.
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Old 20-01-2012, 01:22   #3
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No you've missed nothing there... same as who in the Tardis says 'Silence will wall'

Anyone who pretends they have sussed it are guessing ... the Moff is a genius I'm sure of it
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Old 20-01-2012, 01:56   #4
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Of course there's the extra scene on the series 6 dvd where Amy complains her life does not make sense and the Doctor tells her to go buy an ice cream. Maybe that's all you need. Probably all we're getting.
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Old 20-01-2012, 03:07   #5
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The Silence blew up the TARDIS, in one of their apparently many attempts to kill the Doctor. We don't know by what method, although it's interesting to note that River was the only one present in the TARDIS at that point, just as she was the agent by which their other assassination attempts took place. Just sayin'. Don't mean nuthin'.
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Old 20-01-2012, 03:14   #6
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Presumably it was the Silence.

There was also no explanation of how River Song got to the Ponds wedding, given there was no doctor in that universe at that point. I don't suppose there ever will be.
There is the line after Amy asks what will happen to them after the second big bang. The Doctor says that they will end up where they are supposed to be. River should be with her parents, after all...
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Old 20-01-2012, 03:49   #7
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There is the line after Amy asks what will happen to them after the second big bang. The Doctor says that they will end up where they are supposed to be. River should be with her parents, after all...
This makes no sense.


(Goes to buy ice cream).
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Old 20-01-2012, 07:35   #8
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IMO none of this has been explained yet! The origins of the voice, the exploding Tardis and who was piloting the Tardis will no doubt be explained at some point...I hope!
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Old 20-01-2012, 08:21   #9
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I thought Moffat mentioned that it was The Silence. Oh well. If not, then it probably was, I was hoping this would have been put to rest by now - I don't want the arc to continue as it is, in to Series 7.
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Old 20-01-2012, 09:06   #10
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IMO none of this has been explained yet! The origins of the voice, the exploding Tardis and who was piloting the Tardis will no doubt be explained at some point...I hope!
No, it hasn't been explained yet. We can speculate, yes, but there was no definite answer. I honestly don't believe that the silence were responsible for it a) because River was the only one in the Tardis at the time (very inefficient if they wanted to kill the Doctor), and b) we would not have had the whole of series 6 where the Doctor had to be killed at a specific point in time and place. Presumably, the Silence always intended to kill him at the Lake.
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Old 20-01-2012, 09:18   #11
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I think it was a villain. It wouldn't really make sense if it was a hero. Or a good guy.
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Old 20-01-2012, 09:44   #12
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No, it hasn't been explained yet. We can speculate, yes, but there was no definite answer. I honestly don't believe that the silence were responsible for it a) because River was the only one in the Tardis at the time (very inefficient if they wanted to kill the Doctor), and b) we would not have had the whole of series 6 where the Doctor had to be killed at a specific point in time and place. Presumably, the Silence always intended to kill him at the Lake.
Nope, it was just the last in a series of attempts, the long war that Kovarian spoke about. Although I have to say, accidentally shattering the entire universe in an attempt to kill one man seems like a bit of a cock up...
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Old 20-01-2012, 11:20   #13
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s moffat has stated it was the silence - but they've never actually made it clear in the show

this is what i find hard to understand. surely when they're writing something they know they need to explain it at some point (also the voice in the tardis). do they just forget?
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Old 20-01-2012, 11:48   #14
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Perhaps we'll find out in the 50th anniversary special, but I'm not holding my breath!
I also thought that blowing up the TARDIS when the Doctor wasn't at home was a bit of a cock-up by whomever was responsible. It's possible that it was some sort of time-bomb that was set to go off at a particular moment, and it didn't occur to them that their target might not be there at the time!
Where are all the good villains when you need them?!
Giving them the benefit of the doubt, perhaps they assumed that just blowing up the TARDIS would destroy the Doctor wherever or whenever he was (along with everything else of course. D'oh!)
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Old 20-01-2012, 12:02   #15
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Giving them the benefit of the doubt, perhaps they assumed that just blowing up the TARDIS would destroy the Doctor wherever or whenever he was (along with everything else of course. D'oh!)
Well if all they want is to stop the Doctor turning up at the Fields of Trenzalore then
  1. Trapping him inside the Pandorica in 126 AD
  2. Blowing up the TARDIS so that even if he does escape he can't Time Travel.
would seem to be enough.

Their plan would have worked as well if it wasn't for that pesky Vortex Manipulator that River left lying about.
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Old 20-01-2012, 14:29   #16
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Their plan would have worked as well if it wasn't for that pesky Vortex Manipulator that River left lying about.
Those bloody things should be banned!
They've been waved around a bit too much like "get out of jail free" cards for my liking.
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Old 20-01-2012, 16:38   #17
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The Silence trying to kill the Doctor so he didn't end the universe. Ironically....
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Old 21-01-2012, 18:53   #18
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This makes no sense.


(Goes to buy ice cream).
Why not? A child should be with his or her parents.
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Old 21-01-2012, 19:51   #19
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To be honest - I don't give a toss! I hope it's all forgotten about like MANY other weird mysteries in the series.
Time to move on !!! Start afresh - otherwise I shall definitely move on and start watching more sensible programmes like Fern Britten watches!
Actually - I'm SERIOUS!! The last two series have been very odd, and I have NOT enjoyed them. I feel terrible saying this - but that is my opinion after watching it since 1965 as a five year old kid!
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Old 21-01-2012, 21:31   #20
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I always thought the destruction of the TARDIS was related to River Song crossing her own timeline because the date she was conceived aboard the TARDIS was the date the TARDIS blows up (unless I've remembered it wrong). Of course, at that point in series 5 we didn't know any of that.

No-one else has really mentioned it, so I am probably wrong about it and I'll shut up now.
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Old 21-01-2012, 22:19   #21
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I always thought the destruction of the TARDIS was related to River Song crossing her own timeline because the date she was conceived aboard the TARDIS was the date the TARDIS blows up (unless I've remembered it wrong). Of course, at that point in series 5 we didn't know any of that.

No-one else has really mentioned it, so I am probably wrong about it and I'll shut up now.
That's certainly a new and unexpected interpretation!
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Old 21-01-2012, 22:34   #22
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It's occurred to me that we still don't know why the Tardis blew up in series 5...
You mean Ten's exit? I always thought that it was the ferocity of his regeneration due to the amount of radiation he had in his body.
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Old 21-01-2012, 22:35   #23
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I always thought it was River ( on the Doctor's instructions) who blew it up to re-set time. The voice was just something coming through the crack. I never really saw a great mystery but that could be me not paying close enough attention.
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Old 21-01-2012, 22:36   #24
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I always thought it was River ( on the Doctor's instructions) who blew it up to re-set time. The voice was just something coming through the crack. I never really saw a great mystery but that could be me not paying close enough attention.
But it was the TARDIS blowing up that caused all the problems that needed re-setting.
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Old 21-01-2012, 23:02   #25
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A wizard did it.


Or maybe the TARDIS realised that in the future/past/whenever River will be/has been/is working for the Silence and so self destructed to make sure she couldn't hurt the Doctor.
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