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Old 07-01-2014, 22:46
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I thought Sherlock pointed him out to her as a possible choice because he would otherwise be going home alone.
Okay, that may be so. I know that when I watched it again I had to rewind parts of it again to catch much of the dialogue which I couldn't quite hear as I found it to be a bit too fast in some parts.

I guess that's a minor criticism and I would have preferred the dialogue to be a bit easier to hear. When dialogue is being delivered very quickly and swapping from person to person it's not always easy to hear everything that's being said. Especially when it's being accompanied by fast editing.

When Sherlock was eliminating people from his list of potential targets sat in the reception area, it was great visually, but I was watching and rewinding that part more than any other part during the episode. I found it way too fast to catch everything being said in one viewing, or two viewings.
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Old 07-01-2014, 22:49
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She wanted him to find her a bloke, which he did
I was going to put it that way:
she wanted him to filter out the ones with potential problems.
I thought he was going to try and pull her at the end (i know, uncharacteristic; let's not go there now).
Well, she would have gone for it if he tried i think.
Who thinks she was planted there by the shadowy figure?
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Old 07-01-2014, 22:51
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I was going to put it that way:
she wanted him to filter out the ones with potential problems.
I thought he was going to try and pull her at the end (i know, uncharacteristic; let's not go there now).
Well, she would have gone for it if he tried i think.
Who thinks she was planted there by the shadowy figure?
I'm not sure about the bridesmaid, but I strongly suspect that David the usher was. The one who Sherlock believed to be Mary's ex.
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Old 07-01-2014, 22:54
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I knew that Tessa the client who contacted Sherlock about the Mayfly man was familiar. But it was only on the second viewing where it struck me who she was.

She was played by Alice Lowe. Who is also a writer as well as an actress.
She's been in quite a few things way back from Darth Merenghi's Darkplace, and co-wrote and starred in Ben Wheatley's recent film called Sightseers, which is about a couple of ramblers who are also serial killers.
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Old 07-01-2014, 23:01
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I knew that Tessa the client who contacted Sherlock about the Mayfly man was familiar. But it was only on the second viewing where it struck me who she was.

She was played by Alice Lowe. Who is also a writer as well as an actress.
She's been in quite a few things way back from Darth Merenghi's Darkplace, and co-wrote and starred in Ben Wheatley's recent film called Sightseers, which is about a couple of ramblers who are also serial killers.
Probably a friend of Moffart's.
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Old 07-01-2014, 23:03
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Going by the speculation in this thread, especially the recent one which connects Mycroft with the guardsmen, I'm wondering if this wedding reception was still the rehearsal, and that Mycroft is the actual intended main target?

If you treat these three episodes as one story instead of individual episodes then I guess you'd have to take into account events in episode one.
Mycroft is highly connected to the government and there was a terrorist attack on the Houses of Parliament.
When Mycroft tells Watson he holds a minor position in the British government, Sherlock interjects: "He is the British government, when he's not too busy being the British secret service or the CIA on a freelance basis

There must surely be a link between Lord Moran and what he was doing in North Korea as well.
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Old 07-01-2014, 23:04
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Probably a friend of Moffart's.
Oh, dear - I do hope she had a proper audition. I can't go through all that again.
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Old 07-01-2014, 23:04
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A little bit. It appeared as though his face was almost registering a puzzled expression as he touched his waist. So not that odd, but just enough to hint that something was going on there.
I took it to be Mycroft's dismay that after burning all of those calories he still hadn't made any headway in getting rid of his belly. I think we were supposed to find it 'funny', like them playing Operation.
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Old 07-01-2014, 23:08
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I took it to be Mycroft's dismay that after burning all of those calories he still hadn't made any headway in getting rid of his belly. I think we were supposed to find it 'funny', like them playing Operation.
Yes, well that would be the literal way of reading it.
I'm not saying that there definitely is anything more to it, but I think the other poster makes a good point if his connection to the guardsmen is correct.

If we dismissed everything we'd have no clues to go on at all, and as this series always demonstrates there are subtle clues all over the place which are revealed later on.
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Old 07-01-2014, 23:10
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Probably a friend of Moffart's.
How many pages shall we use to talk about nepotism this time?
Four? Five?
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Old 07-01-2014, 23:12
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Thing is if you look at it from a TV writer's point of view, why would they even bother having that scene in it at all where he puts the manuscript back into an envelope marked 'Dr and Mrs Watson'?

Somebody must have deliberately written that into the scene. And if there was no reason why bother with even inserting that into the scene at all?

Could well be something he's written on the back of the music manuscript which is a message he wants to get to them as he has to leave the reception. Possibly urgently?
Yes. I agree. Why was it so important for him to leave the letter on display for them not too miss.
It has to be the piece of music he was supposed to be composing at the beginning of the programme when Mrs Hudson walks into his room with a cup of tea, he tells Mrs Hudson he was composing yet as far as I can see he is playing a recording and transcribing the music notation. maybe he did write the music but I am not taking that for granted. could be a red Herring but why 2 scenes concerning the music notation. mystery is if it is a clue . name of the a piece of music etc. why would this mean anything to someone who can't play a musical instrument. as you say he may have just scribbled a quick message on the back of something he knew they would know is important, have to wait till Sunday and they will probably not even mention it.lol
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Old 07-01-2014, 23:16
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Have they changed the writers? This show has seriously deteriorated.
Totally agree, Sunday's episode was awful.
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Old 07-01-2014, 23:26
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Yes. I agree. Why was it so important for him to leave the letter on display for them not too miss.
It has to be the piece of music he was supposed to be composing at the beginning of the programme when Mrs Hudson walks into his room with a cup of tea, he tells Mrs Hudson he was composing yet as far as I can see he is playing a recording and transcribing the music notation. maybe he did write the music but I am not taking that for granted. could be a red Herring but why 2 scenes concerning the music notation. mystery is if it is a clue . name of the a piece of music etc. why would this mean anything to someone who can't play a musical instrument. as you say he may have just scribbled a quick message on the back of something he knew they would know is important, have to wait till Sunday and they will probably not even mention it.lol
I know Sherlock is not used to weddings but it's still a very risky surroundings to leave a letter if it was important. It's not long in a wedding party that people are drunk and messing about everywhere.
And for the recording he was listening to when he told Mrs.Hudson about the composing, i thought he said 'this IS me playing!'. My impression at that time was that he had recorded his own playing to put it to score later.
As i said before in a jest, perhaps there's a secret code in the score that he expect Mary to discover!
I think i'm going paranoid
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Old 07-01-2014, 23:37
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I knew that Tessa the client who contacted Sherlock about the Mayfly man was familiar. But it was only on the second viewing where it struck me who she was.

She was played by Alice Lowe. Who is also a writer as well as an actress.
She's been in quite a few things way back from Darth Merenghi's Darkplace, and co-wrote and starred in Ben Wheatley's recent film called Sightseers, which is about a couple of ramblers who are also serial killers.
She also was in Life In Film with Andrew Scott (Moriarty). She played his other half. don't know how I remember that but she does. I recognised the name

Anyone think there's something off about Molly's boyfriend. When they were kissing before he photo he looked a bit like he was holding back...and he looks a bit like the spinner who was planted on John. (If the theory Sherlock told Anderson is correct, Mycroft knew the sniper and got him to reconsider...could be related maybe not).
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Old 07-01-2014, 23:52
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Anyone think there's something off about Molly's boyfriend. When they were kissing before he photo he looked a bit like he was holding back...and he looks a bit like the spinner who was planted on John. (If the theory Sherlock told Anderson is correct, Mycroft knew the sniper and got him to reconsider...could be related maybe not).
First reflex; for that to work, you would need to assume that Molly was desperate and would fall for anyone looking like Sherlock.
On the other hand, i suppose it's not always a grand masterplan with 100% possibility of success. Criminal organisations must throw a lot of lines in the water to catch the right fish!
Perhaps they tried and it worked. Not sure myself. It would need, like in court, other fact to cross with that one. So far not for this one.
When we know the result on sunday, if at least part of the plot hasn't been found by someone here, my head will explode!
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Old 07-01-2014, 23:53
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Totally agree, Sunday's episode was awful.
Funnily enough that's the very word my sister used to describe it when I asked her what she thought. She's got both the first two series on DVD but when I asked her about Sunday's episode she said "It was awful. Just boring." She didn't think much of the first episode either.
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Old 08-01-2014, 00:04
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I know Sherlock is not used to weddings but it's still a very risky surroundings to leave a letter if it was important. It's not long in a wedding party that people are drunk and messing about everywhere.
And for the recording he was listening to when he told Mrs.Hudson about the composing, i thought he said 'this IS me playing!'. My impression at that time was that he had recorded his own playing to put it to score later.
As i said before in a jest, perhaps there's a secret code in the score that he expect Mary to discover!
I think i'm going paranoid
Well Sherlock did leave the letter on the stage out the way but i agree if it was vital you think he could of thought if something better.
Wondering if it has something to do with the timing of the music rather than the notation,
Don't waltzes have to be played to a strict time, that's why Sherlock was dancing in his room the first place i think, to make sure the timing was correct. it may be something that is significant to Watson or his wife. think am getting a bit paranoid myself as well.
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Old 08-01-2014, 00:17
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First reflex; for that to work, you would need to assume that Molly was desperate and would fall for anyone looking like Sherlock.
On the other hand, i suppose it's not always a grand masterplan with 100% possibility of success. Criminal organisations must throw a lot of lines in the water to catch the right fish!
Perhaps they tried and it worked. Not sure myself. It would need, like in court, other fact to cross with that one. So far not for this one.
When we know the result on sunday, if at least part of the plot hasn't been found by someone here, my head will explode!
She might have found him accidentally like Russ in friends . (but it being a set up). I'm speculating due to tumblr and many rewatching! I don't know for sure...also I kind of want to know what sherlock deduced from him but didn't say :P.
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Old 08-01-2014, 00:20
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Well Sherlock did leave the letter on the stage out the way but i agree if it was vital you think he could of thought if something better.
Wondering if it has something to do with the timing of the music rather than the notation,
Don't waltzes have to be played to a strict time, that's why Sherlock was dancing in his room the first place i think, to make sure the timing was correct. it may be something that is significant to Watson or his wife. think am getting a bit paranoid myself as well.

Another musical code then, like in The Reichenbach Fall...
...but i thought Moriarty said there was no code...
...perhaps it's the code of life...
...perhaps we're all being rewritten by a waltz composed by a fictional character...
Aaaaaaargh !!!
Ok, paranoid seizure has pass !
Sorry about that
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Old 08-01-2014, 00:21
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She might have found him accidentally like Russ in friends . (but it being a set up). I'm speculating due to tumblr and many rewatching! I don't know for sure...also I kind of want to know what sherlock deduced from him but didn't say :P.
Good one.
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Old 08-01-2014, 00:32
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Another musical code then, like in The Reichenbach Fall...
...but i thought Moriarty said there was no code...
...perhaps it's the code of life...
...perhaps we're all being rewritten by a waltz composed by a fictional character...
Aaaaaaargh !!!
Ok, paranoid seizure has pass !
Sorry about that
Lol, I think we are both better off sticking to watching Dixon of dock green from now, i feel like one of Mycrofts Goldfish working it all out.
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Old 08-01-2014, 00:40
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Lol, I think we are both better off sticking to watching Dixon of dock green from now, i feel like one of Mycrofts Goldfish working it all out.
What do you mean 'both'?
It's nice to fell special but i refuse to believe we're only two like that!
I'll have to check this Dixon but in the short run, the much simpler show coming up for me is Father Brown.
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Old 08-01-2014, 01:16
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Didn't the photographer at the end tell Sherlock that he was arresting the wrong person and mention the name of somebody else?
Sorry but I couldn't hear what name he said.
Although I understand that he was seeking revenge for his brother, it did suggest that he may also have been following orders from some higher authority.

Like I say, I couldn't quite hear what he said so apologies if it was explained properly but I didn't quite catch it.
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Old 08-01-2014, 01:26
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Didn't the photographer at the end tell Sherlock that he was arresting the wrong person and mention the name of somebody else?
Sorry but I couldn't hear what name he said.
Although I understand that he was seeking revenge for his brother, it did suggest that he may also have been following orders from some higher authority.

Like I say, I couldn't quite hear what he said so apologies if it was explained properly but I didn't quite catch it.
Sorry, it's me again.
My recollection is that he was accusing Major Scholto of being the real criminal.
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Old 08-01-2014, 01:34
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Not saying what you wrote isn't possible. Just what i remember.
In fact, when i first saw him dress-up for the wedding, i thought for a second that it was the same man at the end of TEH.
Perhaps Major Scholto's role in this is not finished.
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