Hope you dont mind me putting in my penith
A quick question Has it been mentioned any where that John has hearing problems.
When Sherlock jumps John removes the mobile fron his ear, you can clearly see an ear piece in Johns left ear, could some body be choreographing the procedures??

What? Who is Mrs Watson?

I don't think there were any brothers in it, apart from the obvious ones.

Whatever are you smoking, sandy?

sorry, I meant to say Mrs Hudson (wouldn't it be funny if Mrs Hudson married Mr Watson for some reason)and no, I am not smoking anything just going off on a tangent.

In Conan Doyle's books, Moriarty had a brother with the same christian name - James. Can't help wondering if there are two Moriartys in Sherlock - Jim and James.

I'd be surprised if Mr G ignored this and could this play a role in Moriarty's supposed death?

Just conjecture and the more I think about it the more confusing it all gets. But what fun!

I know, I was only teasing you.


Couldn't agree more. I have thought myself into a corner with this one!

Thanks ! I'd missed the bit w. hen Moriarty says that he could call it off. Obviously then, there must have been a signal he could have given. I was probably too busy watching Sherlock !
Would Molly have arranged for Moriarty's body to be removed from the roof ?They couldn't just leave it there for the pigeons. If the body was found wouldn't it be assumed that Sherlock had murdered Moriarty ?

It is odd about Moriarty's body. Another poster on this thread (sorry, can't remember who, and it's a long way back) pointed out that when Mycroft was reading the newspaper at the end no other death was mentioned, which it surely would have been if they had found the body.

Either Molly or Mycroft, or both, may have had a hand in removing it.

The body could have ended up in Sherlock's coffin and been buried?

In one of the scenes where they were showing various news items, wasn't there a story saying Moriarty was missing or something like that. you have to be quick to catch it but it is difficult to read all of it.

When Sherlock tends to shake hands in the last episode, it reminds of that little joke some people say "pull my finger" and instead of farting, he makes a bang noise. does Sherlock usually shake hands with people?

Don't know about the handshakes but did anyone notice the very Alan Rickman type dive Sherlock made to the fireplace when he was looking for his cigarettes ?

Yes, it could. how did it get there though?


He shook hands with the assassin who saved his life. Then the assassin got shot.

Maybe he doesn't usually shake hands with people because they die immediately afterwards.

He shook hands with Sebastian in 'The Blind Banker' but he didn't die as far as I am aware.

Really I don't see how he did it.
I've seen some of the theories people came up with but none seemed adequate enough to explain the whole thing.
The most popular one seems to be the one with Sherlock falling onto the van whick drove off, while Waston mourned over the imposter lying dead on the ground.
This is a wonderful theory, fits almost everything...except one.
Surely from Waston's point of view it would cheat him beautifully, but let's take Sherlock's view. One thing we must understand is that there is a third party involved. Not Sherlock, not Waston, but the killers of Moriaty.
How was Sherlock to know where the killers were? For all he knew, there are three killers waiting to see him jump. But exactly where they were hiding he didn't know! If the theory above is true, what if one of the killers saw exactly what happened and knew he escaped? Sherlock couldn't let it happen!He had to ensure that absolutely no one will see him survive, wherever they were!!!He can't just cheat Waston and be done with it, but every possible witness. So the only theory likely to fit is that he didn't jump at all. Someone else did.But that seemed just as far-fetched as anything! So how on earth did he manage it? Is there an answer at all?

It could be that one is looking at two, three is looking at one and two. four is looking at one, two and three and so on

Also did Sherlock just use the stairs on the roof

I'd like it to be something that we could figure out from the info we have , but going from Dr. Who where he was killed at the start of the season we could not have solved it because we hadn't even been told about Tesselectors etc.

so I do tend to think that there's some info that we just haven't been told yet with Sherlock too

I finally watched this again today. Nothing much to add to the notes already posted in this thread. Lots of great detective work here.

The only thing I did notice which I haven't seen mentioned, although it may have been further back....

When Sherlock is in the hospital talking to John and waiting to meet Moriarty, he is wearing what seems to me to be a dark purple shirt. I think this is the same shirt on the roof. This does not appear to be the same shirt on the body below, which to me looks black. Some pics below. What do you think?

Sherlock in Barts

Sherlock in Barts 2

Sherlock on roof

Sherlocks body

A few people i know think its as simple as him throwing a corpse of the roof and him running down the stairs and changing places wuth the corpse.

I thought him taking a ride in the police car to the court was out of character as he has always insited on taking taxis before

also in the opening scenes the bank manager mentions going into free fall and the prison govener says let them dangle at the end of a rope, these possible references and the hanging manequin make me think of some sort of controlled fall

I am pretty sure it was Sherlock who jumped from the roof. But that it was not Sherlock who hit the pavement. Something happened between the roof and floor which we couldn't see. Perhaps someone rushed out with a big sheet to catch him.

True, but after Let's Kill Hitler we had a chance of working it out.

It looks like the same shirt to me.


That's how the Doctor caught the Angels. I'm not sure it would work with humans.

There must be a ladder involved too.

Stairs, ladder and something soft to land on.

What you mean there was someone who didn't believe all along it was a robot or a replica of some kind despite Moffat's protests to the contrary?

Who is he? The Flash???