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Perhaps Holmes dosed Moriarty with HOUND gas at Baker Street while making him tea, and the whole thing is a fantasy inside Jim's head - a horror unfolding where he realises he can beat Holmes yet feel hollow and empty after Sherlock's death.
Makes no sense, but hey, let's throw it out there anyway. |
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Interesting tweet from Mr Gatiss to consider :
http://twitter.com/Markgatiss randallwrites @Markgatiss On second viewing, I think if Moriarity'd really shot off a gun inside his mouth more of his head would be missing. #Sherlock Markgatiss @randallwrites You're forgetting something important. |
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I think the important part might be we don't get to see the back of his head.
Even so if Moriarty faked his suicide (firing a blank into one's mouth is likely to be fatal in any case!) to what end here? To me the biggest unanswered question is not how Holmes faked his death but why the young girl screamed. |
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I think the important part might be we don't get to see the back of his head.
REMINDER BBC3 is showing the last episode again tonight at 20.00. |
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I think Star Trek is meant to start shooting in March but as the villain and not the main star he may only have to film a few scenes even if he has to do all the pre-production training for a month or so before.
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To me the biggest unanswered question is not how Holmes faked his death but why the young girl screamed.
Two options: 1) Moriarty wore a mask of Sherlock's face, or someone else did or had had surgery to look like Sherlock, which is more likely. Sherlock found the mask or the man with his face and put a corpse with it/the dead lookalike on the pavement. 2) Moriarty used images of Sherlock and some sort of brainwashing to make the girl fear him. But then, that would not be significant for the ending. 3) Sherlock did hurt the kids. But no. He is the hero, whatever he says. Any other explanations? |
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What are the chances that Moriarty really was an actor hired by Moriarty? Maybe even one who looked like M himself? And he was forced to commit suicide much like S was?
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What are the chances that Moriarty really was an actor hired by Moriarty? Maybe even one who looked like M himself? And he was forced to commit suicide much like S was?
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I think the important part might be we don't get to see the back of his head.
Whether this is a plot twist, or a nod by the producers to the tastefulness of what they could show in a TV broadcast, who knows? (But they didn't have to make him shoot himself through the mouth) |
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Why did SH not check Moriatys body when he shot himself? Surely he would want to make sure he was dead.
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Though we do see the "body" just before Holmes jumps.
Even so if Moriarty faked his suicide (firing a blank into one's mouth is likely to be fatal in any case!) to what end here? To me the biggest unanswered question is not how Holmes faked his death but why the young girl screamed. my feeling is that SH and moriarty are in on it all , they're faking both their deaths to fool someone else |
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This has been explored. The question it asks is what was the specific hold that M had over his proxy (to commit suicide on demand) and where was this alluded to in the foregoing 80 minutes?
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btw, this is just speculation. i think there is more evidence for it really being moriarty. unfortunately i don't trust s.moffat anymore to play by the rules (see dr who finale, where everything pointed at the doctor's death, including the acting of the cast). he loves those unlikely solutions which make everyone's effort to find the most logical solutions seem an utter waste of time. So i tend not to bother with logic anymore and simply list options - however likely. it's a different kind of fun. not as satisfying as when you know that if you think hard and long enough, you may actually deduce the correct answer, though.
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One thing that's been puzzling me - how did Moriarty manage to make those films threatening the jurors' loved ones when he was in prison on remand?
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I'd love to know how Holmes can identify glycerol under an optical microscope. It is not as if you can see the molecular structure!
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Something strange I noticed while watching about ten minutes ago - did Sherlock forget Molly's name? That does seem very out of character.
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Something strange I noticed while watching about ten minutes ago - did Sherlock forget Molly's name? That does seem very out of character.
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Does the met use cufflinks with chain links?
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I think the young girl screamed because moriaty brainwashed her. Showing her photos of him and telling her that he (Sherlock) will kill her next time her. All this was to plant the idea in the heads of the police as to Sherlock being a fraud. No other reason.
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Personaly I think the 'thing everyone has missed' clue that has been mentioned by Steven Moffat is just before M. shots himself, he shakes Sherlocks hand. It had been well established during the episode that the assassins assigned to protect Sherlock were shoot after direct contact, we were actualy shown this when Sherlock shook one of thier hands, hence showing of M. shaking Sherlocks.
I don't think it has been THE Moriarty we have been seeing, after all if they want the series to run longer why kill of the only arch nemesis so early on. I think the 'I O U' was not a threat but a repayment of a as yet unknown previous encounter.
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One thing that's been puzzling me - how did Moriarty manage to make those films threatening the jurors' loved ones when he was in prison on remand?
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So he used molly to get a fake dead body to fake his death, but how did he not die after it clearly showed john watching him jump from that height?
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Just watched the ep again - that scene at the graveside had my bottom lip wobbling...
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Personaly I think the 'thing everyone has missed' clue that has been mentioned by Steven Moffat is just before M. shots himself, he shakes Sherlocks hand. It had been well established during the episode that the assassins assigned to protect Sherlock were shoot after direct contact, we were actualy shown this when Sherlock shook one of thier hands, hence showing of M. shaking Sherlocks.
I don't think it has been THE Moriaty we have been seeing, after all if they want the series to run longer why kill of the only arch nemesis so early on. See M. Gatiss' conversation with "randallwrites" on twitter. Quote:
I think the 'I O U' was not a threat but a repayment of a as yet unknown previous encounter.
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Personaly I think the 'thing everyone has missed' clue that has been mentioned by Steven Moffat is just before M. shots himself, he shakes Sherlocks hand. It had been well established during the episode that the assassins assigned to protect Sherlock were shoot after direct contact, we were actualy shown this when Sherlock shook one of thier hands, hence showing of M. shaking Sherlocks.
I don't think it has been THE Moriarty we have been seeing, after all if they want the series to run longer why kill of the only arch nemesis so early on. I think the 'I O U' was not a threat but a repayment of a as yet unknown previous encounter. ![]() |
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