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Old 01-01-2014, 22:35
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Disappointing. Style over substance. Too much time wasted.
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Old 01-01-2014, 22:35
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Wonderful to see this back. Cumberbatch was superb but Martin Freeman was the Star of that episode for me. Such a great pairing.
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Old 01-01-2014, 22:36
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Bet Gatiss penned episode for sure.
Of anything ever I'd say, possibly except Adventures of Time and Space.
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Old 01-01-2014, 22:37
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Una Stubbs was hilarious. I think even Cumberbatch was getting a kick out of her performance.
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Old 01-01-2014, 22:37
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So, if there are 13 scenarios, how many did we have tonight? Was anybody counting?

Just wondering how many more we have to see before the TRUTH comes out.
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Old 01-01-2014, 22:38
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Bravo, Mr. Gatiss and Mr. Moffat. Worth the two years, I say!
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Old 01-01-2014, 22:38
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How many people watched tonight solely on hype?

Seems to be a lot of people surprised about the style of the series.
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Old 01-01-2014, 22:39
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What's the fact it's fiction got to do with it?

He's merely asking when we'll know the actual resolution to a mystery will be revealed which was created by the writer of this particular piece of fiction.
I think the point that Moffat was trying to make (in that scene when Sherlock Holmes was getting interviewed), was that it really doesn't matter which flashback is the 'correct' one, they are all plausible and that no one explanation will please everyone (the viewers).
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Old 01-01-2014, 22:39
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How many people watched tonight solely on hype?

Seems to be a lot of people surprised about the style of the series.
I'm not sure what you mean. Are you thinking people watched tonight who hadn't watched earlier episodes and so were "surprised about the style of the series"?
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Old 01-01-2014, 22:40
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Patience. It's a throwback to the original books.
If I wait will she get a new voice and personality?
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Old 01-01-2014, 22:40
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Loved it! Glad its back, well worth the wait.
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Old 01-01-2014, 22:40
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I know I'll sound dumb but please can someone explain to me:

1) So how did he actually fake his death? There are 3 ways they shown.
2) Who was the old guy at the end?
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Old 01-01-2014, 22:40
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Den of Geek review
http://www.denofgeek.com/tv/sherlock...e-empty-hearse
(spoilers, obv)
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Old 01-01-2014, 22:40
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So, if there are 13 scenarios, how many did we have tonight? Was anybody counting?

Just wondering how many more we have to see before the TRUTH comes out.
We've seen 3 (Derren Brown, Moriaty/Sherlock snog and the final one with the him falling ontp the inflatable thingy), he sort of ran through another two during his first meeting with John, so definitely 3, and possibly 5
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Old 01-01-2014, 22:41
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I know I'll sound dumb but please can someone explain to me:


2) Who was the old guy at the end?
http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2014-...pening-episode
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Old 01-01-2014, 22:41
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How many people watched tonight solely on hype?

Seems to be a lot of people surprised about the style of the series.
Looks like 'style over substance' is the new battle cry to go next to 'complicated story arcs'. Which as you say is bizarre. Sherlock has always been a highly stylised show. That criticism was made by some the minute the text on screen thing first appeared. Others loved it.

Its always been super slick. Were some expecting a gritty kitchen sink drama?
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Old 01-01-2014, 22:41
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I think the point that Moffat was trying to make (in that scene when Sherlock Holmes was getting interviewed), was that it really doesn't matter which flashback is the 'correct' one, they are all plausible and that no one explanation will please everyone (the viewers).
Has anyone been pleased by any of the "explanations" seen so far?
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Old 01-01-2014, 22:42
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I'm not sure what you mean. Are you thinking people watched tonight who hadn't watched earlier episodes and so were "surprised about the style of the series"?
I'll be frank, I was one of these people! I need to watch these episodes, but I loved tonight either way!
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Old 01-01-2014, 22:42
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How many people watched tonight solely on hype?

Seems to be a lot of people surprised about the style of the series.
The surprise for me was all the nods to the fanfiction slashers (which doesn't interest me), but I think it was good that Messrs Moffat and Gatiss included them - even if it's to get them out of the way for the episodes to come. I hope, anyway.
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Old 01-01-2014, 22:42
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Looks like 'style over substance' is the new battle cry to go next to 'complicated story arcs'. Which as you say is bizarre. Sherlock has always been a highly stylised show. That criticism was made by some the minute the text on screen thing first appeared. Others loved it.
But it hasn't always been style over substance. Tonight it was.
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Old 01-01-2014, 22:43
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Moffat, Moffat, Moffat, oooh Moffat..


It was written by Mark Gatiss, sorry.
True, but I'm sure both Moffat and Stephen Thompson had a significant amount of input.
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Old 01-01-2014, 22:43
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I don't know why people are concerned about getting 'the truth'. It's not a documentary!
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Old 01-01-2014, 22:43
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Brilliant episode and as a massive sherlolly fan I have been sated. Their never going to get together so that little sequence at the beginning is the closest we'll get.

long live sherlolly.
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Old 01-01-2014, 22:43
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The whole bombing parliament plot was a bit iffy, from the train bloke's contrived job to the whole uncoupling a tube carriage thing... Tube trains aren't steam trains!

But this episode was never really about the crime of course. Nor was it even about the How-Did-Sherlock-Do-it? It was all about Sherlock and John. And on that basis, it was fantastic stuff.
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Old 01-01-2014, 22:43
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I really enjoyed it, even if it was just a massive middle finger to the audience...
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