loved it ,love the series ,bbc drama at its best
Sherlock - New BBC Drama (Part 2)
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Originally Posted by Veri:
“Has anyone been pleased by any of the "explanations" seen so far?”
“Has anyone been pleased by any of the "explanations" seen so far?”
Its like a magic trick. The beauty is in the mystery and all the speculation. When you pull back the curtain and find a doddery old man it spoils it. I don't want it forensically explained for sure. I would be quite happy if they never say for sure what happened. Its drama and fantasy. Not a documentary.
I loved that, I liked that they spent so much time re-establishing the relationships, if it had been glossed over, I don't think it would be believable, a person can't fake thier own death, disappear for 2 years and then just carry on as if nothing happened. Really looking forward to the next 2 episodes!
The little girl at the bonfire was also in the not going out christmas special (trixiebelle is a very rare name) and has also been cast for a small role in games of thrones.
Originally Posted by garyessex:
“What a horribly smug programme. An 85 minute titwank for Moffatt and Cumberbatch.”
“What a horribly smug programme. An 85 minute titwank for Moffatt and Cumberbatch.”
Why the hell did you watch it then?
Originally Posted by Agent Krycek:
“We've seen 3 (Derren Brown, Moriaty/Sherlock snog and the final one with the him falling ontp the inflatable thingy), he sort of ran through another two during his first meeting with John, so definitely 3, and possibly 5”
“We've seen 3 (Derren Brown, Moriaty/Sherlock snog and the final one with the him falling ontp the inflatable thingy), he sort of ran through another two during his first meeting with John, so definitely 3, and possibly 5”
Thank you.
Originally Posted by saladfingers81:
“Looks like 'style over substance' is the new battle cry to go next to 'complicated story arcs'. Which as you say is bizarre. Sherlock has always been a highly stylised show. That criticism was made by some the minute the text on screen thing first appeared. Others loved it.
Its always been super slick. Were some expecting a gritty kitchen sink drama?”
“Looks like 'style over substance' is the new battle cry to go next to 'complicated story arcs'. Which as you say is bizarre. Sherlock has always been a highly stylised show. That criticism was made by some the minute the text on screen thing first appeared. Others loved it.
Its always been super slick. Were some expecting a gritty kitchen sink drama?”
One thing that you don't need to be Holmes to deduce is that you will always attack people who think differently to you.
Just have confidence in what you like.
If it didn't appeal to a lot of people it wouldn't exist.
But not everybody will like it.
Must be just me then
I thought it was a complete and utter load of rubbish
It made no sense from beginning to end
Sherlock is supposed to solve crimes with his logical brain
And I won't be watching again
I thought it was a complete and utter load of rubbish
It made no sense from beginning to end
Sherlock is supposed to solve crimes with his logical brain
And I won't be watching again
This show is a total embarrassment. I just hope to the Almighty we don't sell it abroad, please someone tell me we don't.
The first couple of episodes from the original series were enough for me, never wasted electricity on it since.. I still wonder if it isn't some badly written and even more badly acted comedy sketch.
The first couple of episodes from the original series were enough for me, never wasted electricity on it since.. I still wonder if it isn't some badly written and even more badly acted comedy sketch.
Originally Posted by Faust:
“This show is a total embarrassment. I just hope to the Almighty we don't sell it abroad, please someone tell me we don't.
The first couple of episodes from the original series were enough for me, never wasted electricity on it since.. I still wonder if it isn't some badly written and even more badly acted comedy sketch.”
“This show is a total embarrassment. I just hope to the Almighty we don't sell it abroad, please someone tell me we don't.
The first couple of episodes from the original series were enough for me, never wasted electricity on it since.. I still wonder if it isn't some badly written and even more badly acted comedy sketch.”
It's a co-production with PBS. Technically it's a British-American show.
And AFAIK it does very well abroad, especially in the US...
Originally Posted by saladfingers81:
“Its like a magic trick. The beauty is in the mystery and all the speculation. When you pull back the curtain and find a doddery old man it spoils it. I don't want it forensically explained for sure. I would be quite happy if they never say for sure what happened. Its drama and fantasy. Not a documentary.”
“Its like a magic trick. The beauty is in the mystery and all the speculation. When you pull back the curtain and find a doddery old man it spoils it. I don't want it forensically explained for sure. I would be quite happy if they never say for sure what happened. Its drama and fantasy. Not a documentary.”
Quite right and I think Gatiss made that point well.
I never bothered about this aspect..there are a million ways it could have been done and the reality is always disappointing..It's the effect that matters.
Originally Posted by fiveinabed:
“I don't know why people are concerned about getting 'the truth'. It's not a documentary!”
“I don't know why people are concerned about getting 'the truth'. It's not a documentary!”
So totally the POINT, which some just don't seem to get.
Originally Posted by saladfingers81:
“Its like a magic trick. The beauty is in the mystery and all the speculation. When you pull back the curtain and find a doddery old man it spoils it. I don't want it forensically explained for sure. I would be quite happy if they never say for sure what happened. Its drama and fantasy. Not a documentary.”
“Its like a magic trick. The beauty is in the mystery and all the speculation. When you pull back the curtain and find a doddery old man it spoils it. I don't want it forensically explained for sure. I would be quite happy if they never say for sure what happened. Its drama and fantasy. Not a documentary.”
And we can speculate and decide. It's ultimately what we think, the truth is NOT out there. It's actually bloody FICTION, and damned enjoyable an' all.
Originally Posted by itunesfestival2:
“I know I'll sound dumb but please can someone explain to me:
1) So how did he actually fake his death? There are 3 ways they shown.
2) Who was the old guy at the end?”
“I know I'll sound dumb but please can someone explain to me:
1) So how did he actually fake his death? There are 3 ways they shown.
2) Who was the old guy at the end?”
1) We don't know yet. These were the fandom theories disguised as Anderson's (I think).
2) I missed the chap at the end.
Originally Posted by fiveinabed:
“I don't know why people are concerned about getting 'the truth'. It's not a documentary!”
“I don't know why people are concerned about getting 'the truth'. It's not a documentary!”
It doesn't need to be a documentary. Some people just like having story threads resolved properly. Rather than a "make your own ending", they like the storyteller to provide a resolution to a story point.
Simply someone's personal preference when it comes to narrative devices. Others like ambiguity and open threads, that's fine too.
But, according to some other posts, this plot point will continue over the next 2 episodes so we may get some form of resolution at some point.
Originally Posted by Faust:
“This show is a total embarrassment. I just hope to the Almighty we don't sell it abroad, please someone tell me we don't.
The first couple of episodes from the original series were enough for me, never wasted electricity on it since.. I still wonder if it isn't some badly written and even more badly acted comedy sketch.”
“This show is a total embarrassment. I just hope to the Almighty we don't sell it abroad, please someone tell me we don't.
The first couple of episodes from the original series were enough for me, never wasted electricity on it since.. I still wonder if it isn't some badly written and even more badly acted comedy sketch.”
Lol, it's airing on PBS in America.
When Watson was talking to the old perv in his surgery a Dr Verner was mentioned
In the original short story The Norwood Builder it was revealed that after Holmes returned from the dead Watson sold his practice to a Dr Verner who it turns out was a distant relative of Holmes
In the original short story The Norwood Builder it was revealed that after Holmes returned from the dead Watson sold his practice to a Dr Verner who it turns out was a distant relative of Holmes
Originally Posted by RobInnes:
“Of anything ever I'd say, possibly except Adventures of Time and Space.”
“Of anything ever I'd say, possibly except Adventures of Time and Space.”
Definitely agree with that.
Originally Posted by eggshell:
“One thing that you don't need to be Holmes to deduce is that you will always attack people who think differently to you.
Just have confidence in what you like.
If it didn't appeal to a lot of people it wouldn't exist.
But not everybody will like it.”
“One thing that you don't need to be Holmes to deduce is that you will always attack people who think differently to you.
Just have confidence in what you like.
If it didn't appeal to a lot of people it wouldn't exist.
But not everybody will like it.”
Its called disagreeing with. Its called an opinion. I have plenty of confidence in what I like thanks and quite frankly the opinions of others are meaningless when it comes to my enjoyment. I am interested in all types of opinion when they are well made and argued.
You seem to have basically criticised yourself in your own post. You seem to have a problem with my opinion which is what you are calling me out on. Funny that.
Originally Posted by Benjamin Sisko:
“Lol, it's airing on PBS in America.”
“Lol, it's airing on PBS in America.
”
And lauded, as it should be.
But it's not for everyone of course.
Originally Posted by Veri:
“Has anyone been pleased by any of the "explanations" seen so far?”
“Has anyone been pleased by any of the "explanations" seen so far?”
No, but I'm pass caring. Next time I shall over look the hype, (whatever form it takes) and simply look forward to the actual story and how the characters develop. Should have known better: such expectations tend to disappoint, greatly.
Originally Posted by wizzywick:
“Why the hell did you watch it then?”
“Why the hell did you watch it then?”
The girl wanted to watch it. I didnt have a choice tbh plus i was intrigued by the interest
Good episode. I preferred the last two season openers but it was still good in its own right.
Please don't say we'll never find out how he jumped off the roof? That would be a massive cop out.
Please don't say we'll never find out how he jumped off the roof? That would be a massive cop out.
Didn't realise it was Benedict's real parents
http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2014-...sherlock-cameo
http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2014-...sherlock-cameo
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