So do i

No I think it was 500 days of summer



I think there is a difference between John lieing about something he said when he was confused, tired and conflicted - ie the diary room and completely reinventing the past. John didn't understand how he felt. Whereas Josie has re-written history in terms of their relationship and in relation to the mag article she doesn't seem to know what she thought about marriage or thinks now - that is more understandable.

yeah me

it could simply be that she is like most of us and doesnt no what she wants from one minuet to the next i change my mind with the bleeding weather me

Had a think about those twins they are a bit sneaky but I think they are playing bb in the american bb style were you have to make alliances lie and game play. Our BB is very different in some ways they are just playing the game and being themselves. Unfortunately being themselves includes constantly bigging themselves up lol
No I don't think they will win it isn't the British way overconfidence and that will be their downfall in the end

Maybe Josie isn't sure what went on and what has gone on since - because John has never made it clear to her. When he left she thought he was coming back! She is guessing what was in his head just as much as we are.

Anyway, it doesn't matter now. She is with someone who is on the same wavelength.

they have more or less been saying the same thing on the main forum but obviously they love them

I'm kind of glad that they didn't get voted out, I know they love themselves but I feel sometimes ones who are the most entertaining for whatever reason are voted out first and we are left with the boring ones, like the last week of our BB, the last few days would have been so different if Mario, JJ, and Andrew had been voted out instead of John, Sam and Corin, but don't think they will win think Frankie has a chance of winning xx

so josie cant be confused about what happened at the end if you remember she said she didnt understand him and re the marriage questions today saying it was it was boring and it was different in the house maybe she doesnt like to think of those times and dont think the interviews were that different if you remember she said she wasnt into marriage and all that but then she said when she put a dress on she felt
different

bye got some other things to do maybe see you later

Bye Amanda xx

Was watching a recording of Johnathan Ross this morning, he was interviewing Daniel Radcliffe and they were talking about the press and how when it first came out that he had a girlfriend they watched how the media story went from her Dad's a painter / decorator (actually he's a builder) to her Dad's a painter, to her Dad's an artist to she's an artist with no mention of her Dad.

I'm just throwing this in to illustrate that a lot of celebrity journalism is lazy journalism. Or as John used to post just because it's in a magazine or on a TV screen doesn't make it factual and the more interviews and quotes given by Josie that get moved around and cut and pasted into different editorial pieces with different slants and headlines meant to tempt or catch a reader the more likely it is that things will be contradictory.

Add onto that people can and do change their mind and have different feelings day to day and articles don't always come out in a date order that reflects the interview date order and I'm only suprised there isn't a lot more conflicting information out there than there is.

hurrah youve just said so very elaqantly exactly what ive been trying to say if you read back but i have to hand it to you so much bloody better as ive said earlier ask me a question today and il give you an answer ask me same question tomorrow and il give you another im contrary like that

You always seem to expect so much more of Josie than you do from John gussiecat but there were two people in that relationship, two people who broke it and two people who've continued to publicly take swipes at each other. In the very first interviews Josie gave she did pretty much say "It didnt work out, we were in the end too different but I hope he is doing well" that only really changed after the first Now interview John gave and subsequent tweets, everything that's happened since has just been tit for tat and reaction by one or the other but it takes two people to call a truce and a cease fire, not just one.

The response you're looking for now if it's the truth I'd like to see too but if it isn't i'd rather she was honest about what she feels because I didn't ever support either of them for being PC but because they were real and didn't edit their actions or words in order to present themselves in a good light.

Have I liked the digs at John in articles, no, have I liked the digs at Josie on twitter no, do I understand them, mostly but not all. It's just a real shame all around that it ended up like this.

Hi Carole, I was going to post about this last night, that they seemed to be playing the way BB, Survivor and other American reality shows are....you make alliances, mis-lead others, make people think you are on their side so they don't nominate you, etc....interesting that they kicked this into high gear just when there are going to be no more nominations. But the difference is that the public isn't voting in these US reality shows, the twins haven't really factored in that part ..... I think that might seem a little refreshing to some who are used to BBUK contestants being a little more circumspect in what they say and how they act. I don't think the twins can win playing this way, but they are interesting to watch, even when we are appalled by some of the things they say and how full they are of themselves...that isn't an attractive trait anywhere, the UK or the US.

I actually dont have any expectations of either of them. Certainly not ones when I think they should be above saying what they really feel. However, for clarity I thoroughly disapproved hated teh attitude of John in the break up interview. I thought he was callous, cold and hurtful towards Josie in the way he insinuated it was her fault and let fly with the insinuations of her lashing out. This has been the cause of most unjust hate from SOME of John's fans. I hated the article about the gf , I thought it was a low blow and made to have maximum hurt on Josie. I hated the tweets he has made about her and the stupid you tubes, again designed to hurt. I hated the tweets before Christmas though Iadmit understanding he might have been peed off.
Josie is more than entitled to talk about her relationship with John in anyway she sees fit, she can tell the world he was the worst, most unloyal, unloving boyfriend in the world. Its her life. However, perhaps for me personally its a matter of taste, I know she gets asked questions, a lot of questions about John James, as the JJJ brand made her what she is today in a way. I am also intelligent enough to know that some of the things she says may be misrepresented in the press. However, she must have said some things and perhaps yes , if I was in her shoes, I would like to think I would have risen above it all and thought you know what I have a new boyfriend now, I am in a happier place, what it was is what it was and now I have moved on.
Of course it takes two to make a truce and agree to stop and i certainly understand I know nothing about what went on behind closed doors, however from twitter and mags at least John appeared to let it go for a while up until Dec. Whether it was the constant digs in the mags that made him lose it or the fact that she linked it to winning a competition that rubbed him the wrong way I dont know. I do know he was over the top in his response and a simple private reply would have sufficed but then again as you pointed out John and Josie never edited their feelings/behaviour on BB so why would they start now.

BTW I am almost positive I am not the only one who wishes Josie could find a way not to have yet another dig at John.

I thought it was 50 First Dates

Im sure she now knows whats going on in his head, as they have been in contact, he said she s been emailing, texting him possibly they have spoken on the phone, or face to face, we just dont know about it thats all.
Am not convinced about the new romance, tbh, for several reasons I am not going to put on here as its not worth the flack

I appreciate this post very much, especially as it comes from someone who isn't that much of a Josie fan anymore. This is exactly how I saw it as well.


I remember the same thing, Josie did say they didn't work and she wished him well early on. And then it all went downhill. And I'm sure that she has much more she could say, but has instead just shared how she felt in the relationship.

Today's article had no dig at John. She's talking about Luke.

i think your right about both things i have my own theories

whose romance are you talking about his or hers
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Right I m off, the atmosphere of the thread has changed somewhat may BBL

Would you like to pm me Jacky and tell me what they are and we can see if they are the same as mine, cant say on here now obviously.

reread my post judy ive edited it cant pm you only know how to reply

BIB: I don't get this sentence being thrown around, is it that John doesn't have much more on his own to say?

Ahhh what a shame I thought we were having a good discussion in which we looked at media manipulation and both sides.

Josie never says anything wrong at all. Her words are carefully chosen. She is gorgeous and lovely and funny. I think this is what I am supposed to say.