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Anyone else find Chemmy's performance a little distasteful?
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lynniebe
22-01-2012
Did she have false teeth in?? She was pretty poor. As for the nun thing, it wasn't as if she did anything rude to 'disrespect' the habbit, so does it matter? It isn't real, after all
bouncer11
22-01-2012
Originally Posted by Mr_XcX:
“Okay hear me out peeps.

I know its movie night but did they really need to have 3 nuns jumping and prancing around. I thought it was a little disrespectful ”

Are you for real???
reclinewithme
22-01-2012
Nuns aside, I tried not to dislike Chemmy this week and I was doing quite well until she came out with her "I attempted a lift that no-one else would have tried at this stage in the competition" line. That was as cringe-worthy as "It's important that people know my story". She gets one more chance, if she comes out with any more clangers next week, then I officially don't like her.
jagged_death
22-01-2012
Originally Posted by reclinewithme:
“Nuns aside, I tried not to dislike Chemmy this week and I was doing quite well until she came out with her "I attempted a lift that no-one else would have tried at this stage in the competition" line. That was as cringe-worthy as "It's important that people know my story". She gets one more chance, if she comes out with any more clangers next week, then I officially don't like her.”

Is that even true, surely Jorgie has done more difficult lifts anyway.
kochspostulates
22-01-2012
I thought it was rude for Katarina to call her a larger lady.
E05297535
22-01-2012
She won't be given any lifts that's for sure!! She will be pulled up on this the actual weeks she's still on the show!!
Jim Kowalski
22-01-2012
As long as they don't make a habit of it
(groan away,I don't care )


Originally Posted by reclinewithme:
“Nuns aside, I tried not to dislike Chemmy this week and I was doing quite well until she came out with her "I attempted a lift that no-one else would have tried at this stage in the competition" line. That was as cringe-worthy as "It's important that people know my story". She gets one more chance, if she comes out with any more clangers next week, then I officially don't like her.”

Yeah.....might be the competitive sportswoman side coming through there.A shame really as she showed something of a fun persona on the ice first week and it would be a pity if she then wiped out memory of that with her off-ice comments.
Jem19876
22-01-2012
Originally Posted by kochspostulates:
“I thought it was rude for Katarina to call her a larger lady.”

No it wasn't. She is a larger lady and there isn't anything wrong with it, but it is relevant to the sort of skating moves she can do.

She isn't fat, and Katerina didn't say she was. It isn't Katerina or Chemmy's fault that people often use "larger" when they really mean fat, but sometimes large means just that.

Chemmy knows she's bigger than average, and much bigger than a normal professional woman ice-skater. She's talked about it herself, and it wasn't news to her. People are just picking up on this because Jason said the same about Sharon, and even though it wasn't rude when he said it either, people decided that because he said it, it must have been nasty.

There was nothing offensive about having the nuns on. I saw a documentary in which various nuns talked about how much they loved the film "Sister Act", much as a lot of Catholic priests think that "Father Ted" is hilarious. Being religious doesn't give you a sense of humour failure and if anything, it's patronising and offensive to those people to presume as much of them.
Pandy65
22-01-2012
Originally Posted by Jem19876:
“No it wasn't. She is a larger lady and there isn't anything wrong with it, but it is relevant to the sort of skating moves she can do.

She isn't fat, and Katerina didn't say she was. It isn't Katerina or Chemmy's fault that people often use "larger" when they really mean fat, but sometimes large means just that.

Chemmy knows she's bigger than average, and much bigger than a normal professional woman ice-skater. She's talked about it herself, and it wasn't news to her. People are just picking up on this because Jason said the same about Sharon, and even though it wasn't rude when he said it either, people decided that because he said it, it must have been nasty.

There was nothing offensive about having the nuns on. I saw a documentary in which various nuns talked about how much they loved the film "Sister Act", much as a lot of Catholic priests think that "Father Ted" is hilarious. Being religious doesn't give you a sense of humour failure and if anything, it's patronising and offensive to those people to presume as much of them.”


This^^^ Personally I was astonished when Katerina got booed. She knows what shes talking about after all.
rubyred25
22-01-2012
Originally Posted by Jem19876:
“No it wasn't. She is a larger lady and there isn't anything wrong with it, but it is relevant to the sort of skating moves she can do.

She isn't fat, and Katerina didn't say she was. It isn't Katerina or Chemmy's fault that people often use "larger" when they really mean fat, but sometimes large means just that.

Chemmy knows she's bigger than average, and much bigger than a normal professional woman ice-skater. She's talked about it herself, and it wasn't news to her. People are just picking up on this because Jason said the same about Sharon, and even though it wasn't rude when he said it either, people decided that because he said it, it must have been nasty.

There was nothing offensive about having the nuns on. I saw a documentary in which various nuns talked about how much they loved the film "Sister Act", much as a lot of Catholic priests think that "Father Ted" is hilarious. Being religious doesn't give you a sense of humour failure and if anything, it's patronising and offensive to those people to presume as much of them.”

I agree Katerina was giving constructive advice, from her own professional experience. I wish she didn't get booed
Pandy65
22-01-2012
Originally Posted by rubyred25:
“I agree Katerina was giving constructive advice, from her own professional experience. I wish she didn't get booed”

100 per cent in agreement
Fatima502
22-01-2012
They never do lifts like that in competitive Ice Dancing anyway
puffin1962
22-01-2012
I didn't see anything offensive about the routine - I mean it's impossible to skate to a film about nuns without errm seeing a nun!!

I didn't think that the routine was very well constructed for Chemmy as that type of lift seemed wrong for a skiier with muscles compared to one of the willowly dancer types - I think that T&D would be better constructing her more of a skater routine - perhaps with some jumps

However I cannot imagine how that training fall must have felt for someone recovering from such a catastrophic leg injury
Jem19876
22-01-2012
I wonder how she's feeling after the death this week of Sarah Burke. I know it's not exactly the same, but it must have been distressing.
Tiger Rose
23-01-2012
Originally Posted by Jem19876:
“No it wasn't. She is a larger lady and there isn't anything wrong with it, but it is relevant to the sort of skating moves she can do.

She isn't fat, and Katerina didn't say she was. It isn't Katerina or Chemmy's fault that people often use "larger" when they really mean fat, but sometimes large means just that.

Chemmy knows she's bigger than average, and much bigger than a normal professional woman ice-skater. She's talked about it herself, and it wasn't news to her. People are just picking up on this because Jason said the same about Sharon, and even though it wasn't rude when he said it either, people decided that because he said it, it must have been nasty.

There was nothing offensive about having the nuns on. I saw a documentary in which various nuns talked about how much they loved the film "Sister Act", much as a lot of Catholic priests think that "Father Ted" is hilarious. Being religious doesn't give you a sense of humour failure and if anything, it's patronising and offensive to those people to presume as much of them.”

Yes I got straight away that katarina meant muscular/athletic as opposed to fat. Also as her & Robin both pointed out Chemmy's strengths lie elsewhere as opposed to the lifts. Jorgie may be the best all round female performer at the moment but as a pure skater Chemmy is easily the best.
norbitonite
23-01-2012
Originally Posted by Jem19876:
“No it wasn't. She is a larger lady and there isn't anything wrong with it, but it is relevant to the sort of skating moves she can do.

She isn't fat, and Katerina didn't say she was. It isn't Katerina or Chemmy's fault that people often use "larger" when they really mean fat, but sometimes large means just that.

Chemmy knows she's bigger than average, and much bigger than a normal professional woman ice-skater. She's talked about it herself, and it wasn't news to her. People are just picking up on this because Jason said the same about Sharon, and even though it wasn't rude when he said it either, people decided that because he said it, it must have been nasty.

There was nothing offensive about having the nuns on. I saw a documentary in which various nuns talked about how much they loved the film "Sister Act", much as a lot of Catholic priests think that "Father Ted" is hilarious. Being religious doesn't give you a sense of humour failure and if anything, it's patronising and offensive to those people to presume as much of them.”

I totally agree with your post.

Why are some people so quick to seek offence - usually on behalf of others - where none is intended?
wordfromthewise
23-01-2012
Chemmy is low on likeability and high on ego for me.....driven sports people don't have to come accross as so full of themselves like she does and 'answering back' a double Olympian and 10 time world or European champion like Katerina on the subject of how you challenge yourself would be a prime reason why she is set for yet another fail in her 'career'.
spannerandpony
23-01-2012
Originally Posted by Pandy65:
“This^^^ Personally I was astonished when Katerina got booed. She knows what shes talking about after all.”

Ugh, that was probably because the production team held up boards saying "Boo!". You know what ITV are like. The minute a judge says even one word which could be construed as negative, ITV want the audience to behave as if it's a Panto. Very disrespectful to such a knowledgeable and constructive panel.
lach doch mal
23-01-2012
Originally Posted by wordfromthewise:
“Chemmy is low on likeability and high on ego for me.....driven sports people don't have to come accross as so full of themselves like she does and 'answering back' a double Olympian and 10 time world or European champion like Katerina on the subject of how you challenge yourself would be a prime reason why she is set for yet another fail in her 'career'.”

I agree with you. I liked her last week, and went off her this week. It was obvious that she couldn't do the lift (also showing that lifting can be difficult for the female contestant). Katherina quite rightly pointed out that she can skate, and that she doesn't need to be in the air.
olivej
23-01-2012
Originally Posted by Jem19876:
“No it wasn't. She is a larger lady and there isn't anything wrong with it, but it is relevant to the sort of skating moves she can do.

She isn't fat, and Katerina didn't say she was. It isn't Katerina or Chemmy's fault that people often use "larger" when they really mean fat, but sometimes large means just that.

Chemmy knows she's bigger than average, and much bigger than a normal professional woman ice-skater. She's talked about it herself, and it wasn't news to her. People are just picking up on this because Jason said the same about Sharon, and even though it wasn't rude when he said it either, people decided that because he said it, it must have been nasty.

There was nothing offensive about having the nuns on. I saw a documentary in which various nuns talked about how much they loved the film "Sister Act", much as a lot of Catholic priests think that "Father Ted" is hilarious. Being religious doesn't give you a sense of humour failure and if anything, it's patronising and offensive to those people to presume as much of them.”

totally this ^^ Chemmy is a larger lady, Katerina is just stating facts and I agree with her, stop doing lifts that are dangerous and that you wont achieve and concentrate on the skating

What I am failing to understand is why T&D would even attempt to put in a lift like that? Surely they would have had some kind of inkling that they BOTH would struggle with a lift like that? Sean is a powerful strong guy but - well - we all saw what happened
gamestats
23-01-2012
Originally Posted by olivej:
“totally this ^^ Chemmy is a larger lady, Katerina is just stating facts and I agree with her, stop doing lifts that are dangerous and that you wont achieve and concentrate on the skating

What I am failing to understand is why T&D would even attempt to put in a lift like that? Surely they would have had some kind of inkling that they BOTH would struggle with a lift like that? Sean is a powerful strong guy but - well - we all saw what happened”

Is it a case of "put it in when you can afford to fail and later when you aren't doing the big lifts, people will realise why and not hold it against you"?
penelopesimpson
23-01-2012
Originally Posted by kochspostulates:
“I thought it was rude for Katarina to call her a larger lady.”

I thought it was funny. She was just being strictly factual.
penelopesimpson
23-01-2012
Originally Posted by Pandy65:
“This^^^ Personally I was astonished when Katerina got booed. She knows what shes talking about after all.”

Because that is what the audience are instructed to do by the floor managers who have somehow convinced themselves that the viewers want this sort of pantomime.
olivej
23-01-2012
Originally Posted by gamestats:
“Is it a case of "put it in when you can afford to fail and later when you aren't doing the big lifts, people will realise why and not hold it against you"?”

not sure!!!! I dont think they should have put it in at all and quite frankly, T&D should have known better IMO
linc52
23-01-2012
im sorry i just cant warm to her at the moment its her ego i think
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