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GeorgeS cant fault the ratings so he has to try and devalue the show by saying its a copy of something ITV have done. Therefore, its an obvious copy of Heartbeat purely because its set in roughly the same period.
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Correct. Every soap has peaks and troughs. The year Emmerdale's arse of a producer said it would overtake EastEnders he was wrong then. EE generally rates higher and more to the point ED will rarely if ever beat CS or EE in a viewer vote for best soap.
It doesn't have a seat at the top table. ITV/Emmerdale cast and some of it's fans kept saying how Emmerdale would become 1 of the big 2 based on it being the Walford soap once a week during a 30min headstart clash with a stunt. EastEnders begain to pull it's self back around and started to beat Emmerdale during the clashes despite the ITV soap having a 30min head-start and then what Happend? ITV removed the weekly clash. It's simply never going to happen
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Plus the One Show's ratings have been going up and up too...that would be fun if it beat Em now and again..
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Million Pound Drop secured their second 2 million rating this series. Funny that the two shows to hit above 2 million had celebrity games,
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Million Pound Drop secured their second 2 million rating this series. Funny that the two shows to hit above 2 million had celebrity games,
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[quote=cylon6;56496421]ITV are bricking it privately over Call The Midwife. That's all you need to know.[/QUOTE
Too right, they can't accept that DOI is being beaten by a well made period drama. Perhaps if ITV1 stopped their addiction to shows with Z list celebrities, maybe they could score a big success like CTM. After all, I imagine when this series of DOI finishes, most of it will get thrown in a skip as it can't be repeated again, while CTM can have a successful afterlife on UK Gold. |
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[quote=Glenn A;56496963] Quote:
ITV are bricking it privately over Call The Midwife. That's all you need to know.[/QUOTE
Too right, they can't accept that DOI is being beaten by a well made period drama. Perhaps if ITV1 stopped their addiction to shows with Z list celebrities, maybe they could score a big success like CTM. After all, I imagine when this series of DOI finishes, most of it will get thrown in a skip as it can't be repeated again, while CTM can have a successful afterlife on UK Gold. |
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You are annoying me, ITV is FAR from perfect.
As for you comments, well where to begin
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Summary of the Daily Mail article:
- EastEnders, Panorama, Songs of Praise and Holby City moving from BBC One to BBC Two - The One Show and Casualty will be 'rested' Everything else should be rested (and I say that as an EE viewer). Episodes can be made up before/after the games. With EE in particular I think the viewer overlap with the Olympics will be significant. Surely BBC2 should be targetting groups of viewers unlikely to be interested in the Olympics? Putting EE on BBC2 is just going to annoy more viewers who also want to watch the Olympics than please non-Olympic viewers I fear. Plus IIRC BBC3 is meant to be Olympics until 11pm, so the EE repeat is going to be rather late, with 3 days being a 'worknight'. If it was at 10pm like normal it might not be so bad Panorama will probably have shockingly low figures if it stays on Monday 8.30pm against Corrie and the Olympics. BBC2 seems like it will just be a weird mish-mash of BBC1 and BBC2 shows. I guess we could see EE leading into Gardeners World or Holby City leading into Horizon |
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i see the quality of discussion is as wonderful as I remember it here. The point I was making about what I saw of CTM was that it was heavily overlaid with pop songs same as Heartbeat.
As for you comments, well where to begin ![]() http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=818woBC0Yb8 |
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i see the quality of discussion is as wonderful as I remember it here. The point I was making about what I saw of CTM was that it was heavily overlaid with pop songs same as Heartbeat.
As for you comments, well where to begin ![]() |
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How is Call Teh Midwife a copy of Heartbeat? One's about midwives, the others about policemen, You could say it's more similar to The Royal though.
Strange goings on on BBC2 this evening ,Radio Times and all the papers say their is 2 ep of Pan Am this evening, but the Freeview EPG says that there is only 1 ep and the other is next week and everything else on BBC2 is now on 40 minutes earlier. Don't know what thats all about. |
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Too right, they can't accept that DOI is being beaten by a well made period drama. Perhaps if ITV1 stopped their addiction to shows with Z list celebrities, maybe they could score a big success like CTM. After all, I imagine when this series of DOI finishes, most of it will get thrown in a skip as it can't be repeated again, while CTM can have a successful afterlife on UK Gold.
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It's probably just me but DOI seems to bear an uncanny resemblance to a particular BBC show hosted by a certain Sir B. Forsyth.So every show depicting life in the 50s will now be branded as an imitation of Heartbeat ?
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Surely if it culd be accused of being a copy it would be of Where the Heart is which was an ITV show about Midwives/Dictrict Nurses and had Pam Ferris, sure it wasn't based on a nurses memoir and set in the modern day but not that much diiferent other than the facy Midwife is much better,
Strange goings on on BBC2 this evening ,Radio Times and all the papers say their is 2 ep of Pan Am this evening, but the Freeview EPG says that there is only 1 ep and the other is next week and everything else on BBC2 is now on 40 minutes earlier. Don't know what thats all about. |
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ITV are bricking it privately over Call The Midwife. That's all you need to know.
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Panorama will probably have shockingly low figures if it stays on Monday 8.30pm against Corrie and the Olympics.
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I think two CBBs a year could be overkill. There's surely only a limited supply of 'celebrities' who will appear on a show like this and at 2 series per year it won't take them long to work through the list...
And so much for Five not becoming the Big Brother network... Quote:
most of the plagarism has being going the other way these days. Brand new copies of Downton, Heartbeat and X Factor all on BBC1 this year
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I know this is really random, as you ratings geeks will know this
but for people who don't... here are the UKs biggest ever TV audiences of all time:World Cup 1966- 32.30m Princess Diana's Funeral- 32.10m The Royal Family- 30.69m Eastenders (Den's divorce)- 30.10m Apollo 13 Splashdown- 28.60m Eastenders (New Years Day 1987)- 28.00m FA Final Cup Replay (Chelsea VS Leeds 1970)- 28.49m Charles and Diana's Wedding- 28.40m Wedding of Princess Anne and Phillip- 27.60m The most current being Princess Diana's funeral. The last ever thing to get over 20m in the UK as an AVERAGE was Only Fools and Horses in 2001 with 21.35m. As for the US: MASH Finale ever episode- 105.94m (77% share) |
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I know this is really random, as you ratings geeks will know this
but for people who don't... here are the UKs biggest ever TV audiences of all time:World Cup 1966- 32.30m Princess Diana's Funeral- 32.10m The Royal Family- 30.69m Eastenders (Den's divorce)- 30.10m Apollo 13 Crash- 28.60m Eastenders (New Years Day 1987)- 28.00m FA Final Cup Replay (Chelsea VS Leeds 1970)- 28.49m Charles and Diana's Wedding- 28.40m Wedding of Princess Anne and Phillip- 27.60m The most current being Princess Diana's funeral. The last ever thing to get over 20m in the UK as an AVERAGE was Only Fools and Horses in 2001 with 21.35m. As for the US: MASH Finale ever episode- 105.94m (77% share) |
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Two runs of Celebrity Big Brother is certainly overkill particularly if they're also going to continue with the normal version of the show as well. In fact presumably if they're planning two celebrity runs then they'll end up with a similar set up to the one they had last year - Celeb Big Brother running directly into Big Brother (or the other way around). It seems madness for them to even consider that. The only way I could see two celebrity versions a year working was if they ditched the normal version. But that doesn't appear to be the plan.
And so much for Five not becoming the Big Brother network... Its not as if the BBC hasn't always made period drama and wouldn't be making it now if it weren't for Downton. It seems to me that ITV (and Downton fans) want to make believe that Downton invented the genre. It didn't. The house has been the same for 3 series now. I hope they have made changes for this year's summer series as if they keep the same layout and only make minor alterations to the decor again it really will feel like they are doing the show on a cheap budget. |
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I know it's only a small thing but I'm getting sick of them using the same layout of the BB house. That's another reason it shouldn't be on back to back.
The house has been the same for 3 series now. I hope they have made changes for this year's summer series as if they keep the same layout and only make minor alterations to the decor again it really will feel like they are doing the show on a cheap budget. |
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Two runs of Celebrity Big Brother is certainly overkill particularly if they're also going to continue with the normal version of the show as well. In fact presumably if they're planning two celebrity runs then they'll end up with a similar set up to the one they had last year - Celeb Big Brother running directly into Big Brother (or the other way around). It seems madness for them to even consider that. The only way I could see two celebrity versions a year working was if they ditched the normal version. But that doesn't appear to be the plan.
And so much for Five not becoming the Big Brother network... Its not as if the BBC hasn't always made period drama and wouldn't be making it now if it weren't for Downton. It seems to me that ITV (and Downton fans) want to make believe that Downton invented the genre. It didn't. |
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I know this is really random, as you ratings geeks will know this
but for people who don't... here are the UKs biggest ever TV audiences of all time:World Cup 1966- 32.30m Princess Diana's Funeral- 32.10m The Royal Family- 30.69m Eastenders (Den's divorce)- 30.10m Apollo 13 Splashdown- 28.60m Eastenders (New Years Day 1987)- 28.00m FA Final Cup Replay (Chelsea VS Leeds 1970)- 28.49m Charles and Diana's Wedding- 28.40m Wedding of Princess Anne and Phillip- 27.60m The most current being Princess Diana's funeral. The last ever thing to get over 20m in the UK as an AVERAGE was Only Fools and Horses in 2001 with 21.35m. As for the US: MASH Finale ever episode- 105.94m (77% share) The Morecambe and Wise Christmas Show 1977 had an official audience of 28.83 million The two EE figures are aggregates including the Sunday omnibus, which is not included now, nor is the BBC3 repeat. The trouble is we are not comparing like with like as the research companies and sampling methods have changed so much over the years - the first audience research (which produced the 1966 figure) was going out into the street and asking people what they had viewed the previous night. |
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ITV were right to axe Heartbeat and The royal because they had less energy than a tortoise on Heroin. However ITV have failed to replace these shows and they should have been thinking of a replacement 2-3 years in advanced to axing them.
ITV need to get commissioning now. But what they do commission may take years to grow an audience. |
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It could though be the catalyst which revives ITV's Sunday nights though as surely the race will be on for them to find a new Sunday night pre-watershed drama of their own. They were right to axe Heartbeat and The Royal - but in the Spring and Summer they do need something to hold the audience as entertainment formats have failed spectacularly.
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I'd have thought Panorama would be rested - it doesn't air every week so missing two weeks won't be an issue. Indeed they skipped a couple of weeks at the beginning of the year.
The fact that BBC1 are moving some big shows to BBC2 over The Olympic period shows that they aren't always chasing ratings.
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I know this is really random, as you ratings geeks will know this
but for people who don't... here are the UKs biggest ever TV audiences of all time:World Cup 1966- 32.30m Princess Diana's Funeral- 32.10m The Royal Family- 30.69m Eastenders (Den's divorce)- 30.10m Apollo 13 Splashdown- 28.60m Eastenders (New Years Day 1987)- 28.00m FA Final Cup Replay (Chelsea VS Leeds 1970)- 28.49m Charles and Diana's Wedding- 28.40m Wedding of Princess Anne and Phillip- 27.60m The most current being Princess Diana's funeral. The last ever thing to get over 20m in the UK as an AVERAGE was Only Fools and Horses in 2001 with 21.35m. As for the US: MASH Finale ever episode- 105.94m (77% share) Quote:
The total audience for the World Cup Final was 36 million with 32 million watching on the BBC.
The Morecambe and Wise Christmas Show 1977 had an official audience of 28.83 million The two EE figures are aggregates including the Sunday omnibus, which is not included now, nor is the BBC3 repeat. The trouble is we are not comparing like with like as the research companies and sampling methods have changed so much over the years - the first audience research (which produced the 1966 figure) was going out into the street and asking people what they had viewed the previous night. Ratings are so confusing.
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but for people who don't... here are the UKs biggest ever TV audiences of all time: