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ITV were right to axe Heartbeat and The royal because they had less energy than a tortoise on Heroin. However ITV have failed to replace these shows and they should have been thinking of a replacement 2-3 years in advanced to axing them.
ITV need to get commissioning now. But what they do commission may take years to grow an audience. I did a little research on Where The Heart Is and didn't realise it ran for 9 years. Yet it fell into the same trap as Heartbeat, ratings were reasonable, but it was deadly slow and the demos were as bad as Heartbeat's, certainly anyone under 35 avoided it like the plague. |
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And this is the thing when one channel does well it spurs the other on to do well also. The thing is Wild At Heart is a Sunday night pre-watershed drama that does better than many other shows across the week. It's just that CTM has come out of nowhere. It happens sometimes and for the first time in several years, ITV's well performing Winter Sundays have had serious competition. It's just rare for a BBC1 drama to do what ITV's have for years and be huge.
The fact that BBC1 are moving some big shows to BBC2 over The Olympic period shows that they aren't always chasing ratings. July 28 (first day of the Olympics proper) DS thread ''BBC Guilty of Olympics Overkill'' |
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July 28 (first day of the Olympics proper) DS thread ''BBC Guilty of Olympics Overkill'' |
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And this is the thing when one channel does well it spurs the other on to do well also. The thing is Wild At Heart is a Sunday night pre-watershed drama that does better than many other shows across the week. It's just that CTM has come out of nowhere. It happens sometimes and for the first time in several years, ITV's well performing Winter Sundays have had serious competition. It's just rare for a BBC1 drama to do what ITV's have for years and be huge.
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The fact that BBC1 are moving some big shows to BBC2 over The Olympic period shows that they aren't always chasing ratings.
Bar with Panorama and Songs of Praise but they wouldn't perform much worse than some BBC Two fare.
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That M*A*S*H finale has been beaten by the last few Superbowls with the most recent one getting 111.3m. That is amazing considering the multi-channel era we're in now.
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GeorgeS cant fault the ratings so he has to try and devalue the show by saying its a copy of something ITV have done. Therefore, its an obvious copy of Heartbeat purely because its set in roughly the same period.
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Ho ho and everyone should have at least 18 channels to choose from by then. I don't watch a lot of sport, but I know there is always an alternatice. Gone are the days when the two BBC channels showed Wimbledon, ITV had athletics and Channel 4 had racing and there was no alternative.,
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I can see BBC1's Scottish and Welsh audience building strongly given the latest from Rome....
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Exactly. Indeed it's quite possible for the fortnight ITV1's ratings might actually be up on the norm.
However, unlike stuff like the Euros and the 6 Nations, I do enjoy the Olympics. |
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Caitlin Moran in the Times has also described it as 'Heartbeat with nuns and a socialist agenda'. I was waiting for RobbieSykes to quote that with the same immediacy he did her Wild at Heart/Emmerdale comparison...
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US Ratings Friday February 10
CBS claim a narrow Friday night victory in the demo just beating out ABC's unscripted line-up whilst relatively speaking Friday night continues to be one of NBC's better nights. On CBS A Gifted Man edged ever closer to cancellation dropping a tenth week-on-week but the rest of the scripted line-up was up a tenth with Blue Bloods tying ABC's Shark Tank for the biggest demo performer of the night and easily winning with total viewers. Speaking of Shark Tank that was up a staggering three tenths vs. last week whilst What Would You Do climbed a tenth and 20/20 dropped three tenths at 10PM probably due to stronger competition from NBC's Dateline which was up an even more staggering four tenths week-on-week. Sticking with NBC Grimm was back up and now looks certain for a second season (which I doubt anyone predicted at the start of the season) and Who Do You Think You Are was steady with last week. On Fox both Kitchen Nightmares and Fringe were down, Fringe back to a series low tying performance. Its days continue to look numbered and a completely unscripted Friday beckons for Fox next season I'd guess. ABC 8PM: Shark Tank – 1.8 [5.91] 9PM: Primetime: What Would You Do? - 1.5 [4.62] 10PM: 20/20 – 1.4 [5.16] CBS 8PM: A Gifted Man – 1.2 [8.81] 9PM: CSI: New York – 1.7 [10.34] 10PM: Blue Bloods – 1.8 [11.77] Fox 8PM: Kitchen Nightmares – 1.5 [3.56] 9PM: Fringe – 1.1 [3.03] NBC 8PM: Who Do You Think You Are? - 1.2 [5.24] 9PM: Grimm – 1.6 [5.24] 10PM: Dateline – 1.5 [5.88] The CW 8PM: Nikita – 0.5 [1.45] 9PM: Supernatural – 0.7 [1.86] |
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Exactly. Indeed it's quite possible for the fortnight ITV1's ratings might actually be up on the norm.
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I just hope they don't have a re run of last summer with shows that fell below 2 million viewers as they were quite simply rubbish. It's a shame America doesn't make the blockbuster mini series any more that ITV used to schedule against the Olympics. Rich Man Poor Man, V and the like used to be quite good.
However, unlike stuff like the Euros and the 6 Nations, I do enjoy the Olympics. |
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CTM has been a surprise hit and badly damaged the previously invincible DOI, which seems to ailing now. What's to stop the BBC really taking on TXF, as the last series wasn't such a huge success and they know millions of viewers can't stand it? I really do admire the BBC for refusing to wave the white flag against strong opposition, I can still remember when they showed the hopeless Harry and the Hendersons against Coronation St.
However, should ITV's reality/ entertainment big guns really go into decline, the channel should have some decent replacements lined up. I'm of the opinion they should look at their rich heritage of game shows and revive some of them. |
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Given that 2 of 3 are new to Channel 5, that might warrant a "new to Channel 5" trailer, maybe tag Waking The Dead on the end, as its a new series.
This seems to confirm t hat EE will be on BBC 2 over the Olympics. Quite how the nation will survive without The One Show, I will never know. Quote:
It would be much more logical to put the Olympics on BBC2 from about 7 pm, perhaps shared with BBC3. I wonder whether TOS could be ''rested'' permanently ?
Last July was taken up with "The One Show: Best of Britain" which really, really wasn't. Perhaps it would have been better described as "Here's half an hour of incredibly cheap programming as we're showing old VTs with a tenuous connection" ![]() But also given one of the show's regular presenters will be doing commentary & presenting duty at the Olympics which was announced month's ago I kind of doubted he'd be doing double duty presenting The One Show in the evenings... And as for "rested permanently" the only question would be why would they do that? It's actually gained viewers and share over the past few months. When it was down near the 4m mark and 17-18% audience I would have argued it could do with a rethink. Now it's getting 20%+ share, around 5m viewers (at least on Mon-Thu) and some decent publicity (the Rickshaw Challenge, and the Buckingham Palace gig). For what I suspect is a cheap show to produce they're doing pretty well
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Exactly. Indeed it's quite possible for the fortnight ITV1's ratings might actually be up on the norm.
17:30 - ITV Regional News 18:00 - ITV News 18:30 - Gameshow (R) 19:30 - Coronation Street 20:00 - Emmerdale 20:30 - Downton Abbey (R)* 22:00 - ITV News at Ten Gameshow = a rotation between The Chase, All Star Family Fortunes and The Cube. * or shows that were dropped mid-run/never likely to make the screen against proper opposition etc etc
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It depends what sort of Summer we have. If we have a scorching Summer then ITV won't benefit at all, however it will have dull weather through the Olympics then ITV may get more 'anti-Olympics' viewers, although of course BBC will increase to. If I was ITV, I would run this schedule for the two weeks:
17:30 - ITV Regional News 18:00 - ITV News 18:30 - Gameshow (R) 19:30 - Coronation Street 20:00 - Emmerdale 20:30 - Downton Abbey (R)* 22:00 - ITV News at Ten Gameshow = a rotation between The Chase, All Star Family Fortunes and The Cube. * or shows that were dropped mid-run/never likely to make the screen against proper opposition etc etc ![]() |
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Given the Olympics is airing during the month of the year The One Show doesn't air I'm not sure I'd describe it as being "rested"
Last July was taken up with "The One Show: Best of Britain" which really, really wasn't. Perhaps it would have been better described as "Here's half an hour of incredibly cheap programming as we're showing old VTs with a tenuous connection" ![]() But also given one of the show's regular presenters will be doing commentary & presenting duty at the Olympics which was announced month's ago I kind of doubted he'd be doing double duty presenting The One Show in the evenings... And as for "rested permanently" the only question would be why would they do that? It's actually gained viewers and share over the past few months. When it was down near the 4m mark and 17-18% audience I would have argued it could do with a rethink. Now it's getting 20%+ share, around 5m viewers (at least on Mon-Thu) and some decent publicity (the Rickshaw Challenge, and the Buckingham Palace gig). For what I suspect is a cheap show to produce they're doing pretty well ![]() |
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Two runs of Celebrity Big Brother is certainly overkill
Without question a full length summer series + 2xCBB's would be overkill for a show past its peak. But the days of 13 week long runs are a thing of the past with the last series of BB coming in at just 9 weeks. If they were to cut that down a bit more and do say a 6-8 week run during May/June, and then another Celeb BB in say September, that could work with sufficient enough gap between each. It's not as though Celebrity Big Brother is a big commitment for the viewer at just 3 weeks long so I think they could easily get away with two per year. Quote:
particularly if they're also going to continue with the normal version of the show as well. In fact presumably if they're planning two celebrity runs then they'll end up with a similar set up to the one they had last year - Celeb Big Brother running directly into Big Brother (or the other way around). It seems madness for them to even consider that. The only way I could see two celebrity versions a year working was if they ditched the normal version. But that doesn't appear to be the plan.
And so much for Five not becoming the Big Brother network... One thing I can be sure of, whatever the outcome, the response on here will be extremely critical. |
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I know it's only a small thing but I'm getting sick of them using the same layout of the BB house. That's another reason it shouldn't be on back to back.
The house has been the same for 3 series now. I hope they have made changes for this year's summer series as if they keep the same layout and only make minor alterations to the decor again it really will feel like they are doing the show on a cheap budget. We might see some more significant changes this summer as they'll have longer to prepare. |
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I think the best thing for BB is to drop the summer series if it performs as badly as last year and air two celeb versions a year. This will guarantee Channel 5 2-3 million viewers for six weeks of the year.
Actually Channel 5 have been shrewd with BB. Gone are the pointless fanzine shows like BBLB and the through the night coverage, with people asleep. Also cutting the length of the series was a good idea as the whole show was becoming an overlong and unpopular bore on Channel 4. BB still has life in it and I reckon the celeb version should be with us for a few years yet. I'm not in its demographic but fair play to Channel 5 for landing a hit for them. ( ITV1 must be well miffed that their reality offering, The Biggest Loser, was beaten by CBB). |
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Friday 10th February Overnights
BBC One 13:45- Doctors: 1.75m (21.1%) 20:00- EastEnders: 8.27m (34.4%) ITV1 19:00- Emmerdale: 7.75m (35.3%) 19:30- Coronation Street: 9.28m (39.9%), +1 115k 20:30- Coronation Street: 9.23m (37%) , +1: 150k Channel 4 18:30- Hollyoaks: 827k (4%) Channel 5 13:45- Neighbours: 746k (8.9%) 17:30- Neighbours: 1.16m (6.7%) 18:00- Home and Away: 760k (3.9%) Multichannel BBC Three 22:00- EastEnders: 593k (2.9%) E4 19:00- Hollyoaks: 506k (2.3%) DS same day last year: Emmerdale:7.4m up 350k y-o-y Corrie: 9.11m/9.33m up 170k and down 100k y-o-y EastEnders:8.15m up 120k y-o-y same day 2010: Emmerdale:7.96m Corrie: 10.01m/9.67m EastEnders:9.69m |
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Emmerdale only 0.5 million behind Eastenders and had better share. Its got quite close between the two soaps. Emmerdale also up against much harder competition, Eastenders was only up against a rubbish documentary called safari vet school.
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Some more good figures for Corrie, both eps 1m ahead of EE. Emmerdale performed decently for a Friday too. Hollyoaks is low and the H&A season finale episode for 2011 didn't do well at all - 760k is a disaster really. Also why don't DS ever report the H&A 5* rating on Friday's?
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Some more good figures for Corrie, both eps 1m ahead of EE. Emmerdale performed decently for a Friday too. Hollyoaks is low and the H&A season finale episode for 2011 didn't do well at all - 760k is a disaster really. Also why don't DS ever report the H&A 5* rating on Friday's?
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Emmerdale only 0.5 million behind Eastenders and had better share. Its got quite close between the two soaps. Emmerdale also up against much harder competition, Eastenders was only up against a rubbish documentary called safari vet school.
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Bar with Panorama and Songs of Praise but they wouldn't perform much worse than some BBC Two fare.

Last July was taken up with "The One Show: Best of Britain" which really, really wasn't. Perhaps it would have been better described as "Here's half an hour of incredibly cheap programming as we're showing old VTs with a tenuous connection" 
