It seems he's not concerned with the "general performance" which the averages you took the time to compile show.

If the poster can find one Emmerdale showing that went higher than one Eastenders showing then that is enough to warrant the response it seems. One show out of however many years of episodes isn't of much concern. The averages give a much better indication of performance over time.

How can I be ridiculous for merely stating a point?

And I might add I picked out WHOLE storylines not EPISODES.

For the "Why do you care so much?" question, I've always been brought up to give credit where credit is due.

As for that record low, thank you, you saved me from looking for it myself.

What were the two soaps' averages during that period?

Looking at my monthly reports from back when the plane crash happened, ED was ahead of EE by 570k for that month, and around 120k behind CS.

Where is this from? Because BARB doesn't go back that far with their weekly Top 30's...

Did Emmerdale have a plane crash when Kathleen Hutchison was in charge of EastEnders?

I love that because it makes me think of this:



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dastard...lying_Machines

"Stop the Midwife.
Stop the Midwife.
Stop the Midwife... NOW!"

Any ratings for Montalbano on BBC4 last night?
Thanks

Spotted this on the RTE website re Mrs Brown's Boys:

http://www.rte.ie/ten/2012/0206/ocarrollb.html

Suggests a 3rd series in September, which seems a bit of a quick turnaround.

Either way, it looks like he will be on the Norton show, as himself, in the autumn before s3 returns.

RTE's top show...
http://www.rte.ie/aertel/348-01.html

Series 3 was commissioned at the same time as Series 2 (March 2011)

right on the subject of Casualty, im not sure a revamp is ever going to send ratings sky rocketing, its too much like the Bill, a revamp will only ever a) kill the ratings b) increase them slightly.

I think Casualtys main problem at the moment is Brookside nurse, and the fact no one cares about her kids. Also I dont buy Lara 2.0 and House 2.0 as a couple.


dont suggest anything so horrible.

anyways ratings.

I think the Magicians needs to go, it wont find an audience after another revamp. Joe Swash calling himself the actor is probably the funniest thing he has ever said, and shows that the show needs a better booking agent, if it most use Celebs.

Casualty is not flopping, its just not showing any real improvement.

Take Me Out, is doing fine but again last weeks contestant is a scandal, why most every episode have some sort of scandal attached? Ross appeared to have some decent guests, but could not equal that of Norton in an earlier time slot.

The new series of The Gadget Show starts at the end of April, filming of which begins tomorrow. As part of a major revamp, it will be broadcast in high-definition for the first time.

https://twitter.com/#!/JasonBradbury

took them long enough.

That's nice.

Wow, some of the attitudes of some posters in this thread leaves me in no doubt why some of the "big" posters are generally steering clear

Africa Cup Of Nations Final (ITV4, British Eurosport) has gone to extra-time, and maybe penalties.

Can't remember that, but I know after the plane crash and when Farm was ditched from the title, it almost doubled its audience. ITV were seriously considering dropping it 20 years ago as its demos were bad and ITV were going through a phase where they were ditching shows that were considered too elderly and downmarket. Swines, they scrapped Bullseye for this reason even though it was getting good ratings, yet persisted in the Border region with awful old Highway to Heaven.

Emmerdale must be one of the very few soap/drama revamps which actually worked - can't think of any others off hand.

P.S. Noticed on DoI footage of Sam and Mark filming Sport Relief does Glee Club - can't see that bumping Pointless out of the 5.15pm slot this year.

Hollyoaks ratings have been bad lately and failed to keep viewers after the Silas storyline. Hollyoaks would rate good for E4 exclusively and then they could put a gameshow at 6.30pm on Channel 4 because not everyone likes watching the news on BBC1 or ITV1.

You said you think Emmerdales going to overtake EastEnders, when do you think this will happen?

Its a shame really because from what I've seen the revamp has produced a much better show for this second run. And it would have been nice if a format fronted by a new primetime face had found greater success. I do wonder if they can maybe salvage something from this format to make it work in an earlier slot. I think there's potential for it to be a decent performer in the tea time slot and would allow them to be less reliant on Total Wipeout throughout the year.


I think the issue is that for whatever reason chat shows just don't work on ITV. The audience just doesn't appear to be there for them. In recent years they've had Al Murray, Paul O'Grady, Piers Morgan and now Jonathan Ross all fronting shows that play on the chat show theme and none of them have been particularly impressive. It might just be time for ITV to throw in the towel on this and try find other uses for the likes of Ross.

Also for the time of year, its a very poor figure for H&A. It should be close to 1m every night really. As for the finale episode, it didn't really feel like a finale episode for me. Just a bog standard episode and at the end Charlie got shot. The 2010 finale was much better, and I remember what happened still - it just worked in 2010. The 2011 final week was just a normal week IMO. In terms of the overall quality of the show at the moment, I do think its good. It's not often H&A is bad, but things will probably pick up I imagine. All soaps go through bad patches.

I don't think there's as much of an issue here as people are making out. EE and Holby will continue, but is there anything else? Songs of Praise, maybe, but who would really notice? The One Show will be on summer break, Panorama could easily take 2 weeks off air, and there won't be any long, multi-part 9pm series running because it's only 3 weeks since the Euro's. (Those weeks can be filled with a stripped drama or two, a couple of 2/3 part docs, Olympic related one-offs like Bert and Dickie / Ab Fab, and some trusty repeats).

As far as EE is concerned, I know what you're saying about the clash (and I'm sure EE would be the one to suffer in it), but there's no easy alternative. Keep it in a BBC One primetime slot and it'll be chucked around like confetti as events unfold - delayed, cancelled, switched to 2 at the last minute, and accidentally clashing with Corrie. A guaranteed way to annoy sports and soap fans alike. Stick it on BBC 2 at regular times and the devotees are happy and the BBC managers don't have to take to blog posts every morning to explain the previous night's chaos.

The ratings will be hit on BBC 2, but so will the ITV soaps during that fortnight anyway, and they'll recover. Plus, you don't provoke World War III with the anti-Olympic viewers or newspaper editors, which is surely the point of keeping EE on-air in the first place.

Solo skating on Dancing On Ice next week and it sounds like it could be for the whole routine which could be interesting. Of course, the fact it's tied in with the early start/Coronation Street move has nothing to do with it...

That Sunday Night Show was absolutely bonkers tonight; I hope it rates well though I somehow doubt it will.

Another decent night from BBC One and The Voice's first task will be to defeat the filler in the ratings; if it can only muster 4.5m they may as well have stuck to other stuff which is clearly cheaper to make. I'm sure it will manage it though. Casualty seems to be struggling at the moment considering it was getting that kind of figure against tougher opposition in the autumn...when the weather was nicer!

TV Burp lost viewers on last week and ITV1 will be hoping that it holds up and not dip any further; it'd be help if they moved the show to start alongside The Magicians instead f 15 minutes after it. However, as someone else mentioned, it may be better to move everything later with All Star Family Fortunes airing around 7.15; Jonathan Ross would do much better at 10pm though maybe at the expense of the male audience; many of whom would flee to Match Of The Day.

The Million Pound Drop didn't disgrace itself on Channel 4 with a reasonable rating and Crocodile Dundee II did ok in the early evening slot; as previously proven, older films do still have a following. Channel 5 held up across the night with stable figures above 1m and BBC Two did the same with Pompeii. Take Me Out: The Gossip is providing ITV2 with another relatively successful spin off.

I think the issue with EastEnders is whether or not the BBC want to stick with four episodes a week (or two hours a week). If they're intending to run with a business as usual approach it seems unlikely to say the least that they'll be able to coherently schedule it on BBC1. However I think it would be a mistake to do that. I'm of the opinion that for the two weeks of the Olympics it might be better for both EastEnders and the BBC if it were to only produce a 2 or 3 episodes which you could probably schedule in key slots around the Olympics on BBC1. That would potentially give the show a huge boost over the summer and I think if you package it with the right storyline it would work well.