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The Ratings Thread (Part 31)
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grahamzxy
16-02-2012
Decent ratings last night considering no CS or EE, BBC1 nice and steady - I went the pub at 8.30pm and it was jam packed (they have a big screen TV tuned to BBC News Channel!), the Arsenal match was basically 'over' by then. Lucky for ITV1 they got the 1st leg, only Gooners will bother with the home tie.

Quote:
“22:45- Kevin Bridges: What's the Story? 1.7m 13.0%”

Winning his timeslot quite comfortably.
Charnham
16-02-2012
spotted this on Broadcast, cant say im surprised.

Quote:
“C5 places double order and eyes wider genres


Channel 5 has ordered a personal history World War II series and an in-house-produced Jedward show for 5*, as it gears up to move beyond its popular factual and fact ent core.”

Roscoe Barnes
16-02-2012
BBC1's 4.6m average across pretty much all its shows does look strange, but at least its consistent. Emmerdale held up well (tape-checked rating of 7.7m as it ended at 19.25 last night), and a decent rating for the football too. One Born Every Minute is a massive hit on C4, and like BFGW on Tuesday night, it picked up a massive +1 figure.

Emmerdale is airing for an hour tonight against EE due to the football. Emmerdale should win when head-to-head as its a fairly big episode which means it could be close 8m tonight. EE is probably looking at about 6m.
kwynne42
16-02-2012
How is a Jedward show moving beyond its Factual and Fact ent core. And what is a factual and Fact ent core anyway
kwynne42
16-02-2012
THe BBC press office week 10, 3-9 march says that Dirk Gently starts on BBC4 for 3 eps and White Heat is on BBC2. There is also a special 3 part Casualty story, it doesn't say if all 3 eps are on that week or just on Saturdays.
Mr Sirs
16-02-2012
Originally Posted by rzt:
“Tuesday 14th February Overnights
BBC One
13:45- Doctors: 1.72m (20.7%)
19:30- EastEnders: 8.45m (37.7%)
20:00- Holby City: 5.42m (23.8%)
21:00- Prisoners' Wives: 4.19m (17.3%)

BBC Two exc HD
20:00- Alex Polizzi: The Fixer: 2.34m (10.3%)
21:00- How to Grow a Planet: 1.53m (6.3%)

ITV1
19:00- Emmerdale: 7.83m (36.0%) , +1: 193k (0.9%)
20:00- The Exit List: 1.83m (8%)
21:00- The Biggest Loser: 2.13m (8.5%) , +1: 201k

Channel 4
18:30- Hollyoaks: 1.09m (5.2%) , +1: 120k (0.5%)
20:00- Gok's Teens: The Naked Truth: 1.28m (5.6%) , +1: 146k (0.6%)
21:00- Big Fat Gypsy Weddings: 4.81m (19.9%) , +1: 858k (4.7%)
* 2011 series opened with 5.61m/21.8%
22:00- Shameless: 1.83m (10.2%) , +1: 305k (3.1%)

Channel 5
13:45- Neighbours: 689k (8.2%)
17:30- Neighbours: 1.07m (6.2%)
18:00- Home and Away: 866k (4.4%)
20:00- The True Story: Saving Private Ryan: 1.15m
21:00- Body of Proof: 1.36m (5.6%)

Primetime Shares
BBC One: 22.6%
ITV1: 12.3% (+1: 0.5%)
Channel 4: 9.9% (+1: 1.5%)
BBC Two: 7.1%
Channel 5 4.6%

Ratings include HD unless stated, and are tape-checked where necessary

Multichannel
5*
18:30- Home and Away: 587k (2.8%)

BBC Three
22:00- EastEnders: 624k (3.1%)

BBC Four
20:00- Duets at the BBC: 436k (1.9%)
21:00- Jo Brand on Kissing: 303k (1.3%)

E4
19:00- Hollyoaks: 748k (3.4%) , +1: 140k (0.6%)

Sky Atlantic
20:00- Friday Night Lights: 38k (0.17%)

Sources: Attentional, DS (1) (2), Share of Voice”



What on earth's happened to EE on BBC3 at 10pm? It used to get 1m + at one time did it not??
Charnham
16-02-2012
Originally Posted by Mr Sirs:
“What on earth's happened to EE on BBC3 at 10pm? It used to get 1m + at one time did it not?? ”

not really no, that rating is pretty much standard, it only gets 1 million when EE airs against an hour long Emmerdale, or a special episode has aired.

Originally Posted by kwynne42:
“There is also a special 3 part Casualty story, it doesn't say if all 3 eps are on that week or just on Saturdays.”

looking at the BBC websie, I think its 3 episodes over 3 weeks.
AlexiR
16-02-2012
At least they finally seem to have realised the celebrity reality shows belong on the digital channels and not the main one.

Originally Posted by cylon6:
“SNL started on NBC in 1975. The original group of "Not Ready For Primetime Players" is still their greatest line up. Dan Aykroyd, Chevy Chase, John Belushi and Bill Murray were among them. Then in the 80s they had Eddie Murphy and Seinfeld's Julia Louis Dreyfuss. In the 90s Mike Myers, Adam Sandler. And recently Tina Fey, Amy Poehler and Kristin Wiig. Quite the production line of talent.”

Should be noted that a lot of that is down to Lorne Michaels who has developed quite a remarkable eye for talent and without whom SNL would be dead in the water.

Originally Posted by C14E:
“Parenthood is a tough one to call although I don't think it'll be down to syndication in the end. But I don't think a 1.6 is so low (for NBC) that it makes it a certainty to be cancelled...”

At this stage I would agree that its the only Tuesday 10PM drama that seems to have a fighting chance of returning. The problem is that its floundering at a mid-1 with (for NBC) relatively strong support from Biggest Loser which would suggest moved to another much more competitive timeslot it would completely collapse. At this stage I would think its best hopes reside in on of two options:

-After the relative success of Grimm on Friday night this season NBC opt to go for two hours of scripted there next year. That would give them Parenthood / Grimm / Dateline.

-Monday night at 10PM in the Fall. Assuming its renewed I suspect they'll want to keep Smash paired with The Voice and I don't think there's any chance of them doubling up on The Voice next season so they'll need something relatively disposable airing Monday nights in the Fall. My guess would actually be something along the lines of Fear Factor / Parenthood

Originally Posted by cherubmattd:
“That means 6 hours will have to be replaced...”

I don't think its quite that big a task

Fall 2012

Monday: Fear Factor / Grimm
Tuesday: Biggest Loser / New Drama
Wednesday: Community / Parks & Rec / New Drama / Law & Order: SVU
Thursday: 30 Rock or Up All Night / New Comedy / The Office / New Comedy / Awake
Friday: Unscripted / Rock Center / Dateline
Saturday: Repeats
Sunday: Football

So Monday is essentially disposable filler until The Voice (and at this point Smash) returns midseason at which point Grimm can either return to Friday or move to another open slot on the schedule. Tuesday is essentially what they have now but with something new replacing Parenthood. In the incredibly unlikely event Fashion Star takes off then it may very well cut Loser down to an hour or replace it completely and cut Loser down to one cycle a year. Wednesday has the 'syndication hour' at 8PM followed by a drama (maybe Hannibal given that name recognition should give it some traction in a tough slot) and SVU. Thursday is basically what it is now (although I remain somewhat undecided on the fates of 30 Rock and Up All Night) and unless it bombs out of the gate then I suspect Awake will get a renewal just so they can renew something for Fall. If it does bomb then Parenthood gets another season and takes Monday night and Grimm goes to Thursday.

So that's two new dramas and two new comedies in the Fall then probably the same again for midseason.

Quote:
“For the other Tuesday 10pm shows, they'll both be cancelled. Hopefully Private Practice can do well on Tuesday's.”

I still think (if they insist on renewing it) Private Practice would be better served with a move to Thursday 8PM where it would still have the Grey's halo to sustain it. A lot of people raise content issues when I suggest this but they'll just have to work around that because I'm fairly sure (and I suspect everyone at ABC is as well) that it will bomb away from Grey's.

ABC however needs to go back to the drawing board on Tuesday nights. In particular they need to work out what they're going to do with Dancing on Tuesday and just as importantly what they're going to do when its not on. It amazes me that they have The Bachelor to fill the Monday void but they've never put any effort into finding something to do the same on Tuesday.
Steve Williams
16-02-2012
Originally Posted by AlexiR:
“Should be noted that a lot of that is down to Lorne Michaels who has developed quite a remarkable eye for talent and without whom SNL would be dead in the water.”

That's true enough, there's a massive Wikipedia page on Saturday Night Live and it talks about the 1980 revamp when Michaels left and they got in a new producer, who apparently had no sense of humour, and a new cast who were rubbish, including someone recommended by Woody Allen who he only recommended because he hated Saturday Night Live and knew she'd be crap at it. Then the producer turned down Eddie Murphy because they already had a black person on it. The ratings plummeted and then one of the cast said the F word live on air which NBC took as the cue to fire everyone and start again.
Dancc
16-02-2012
Great rating for NCIS and that lead in has boosted Law and Order: Criminal Intent by about 33% compared to what it was averaging on its own in the 9pm slot late last year. Benidorm ER meanwhile might be over for this series but looks certain to be recommissioned with those numbers, finishing third in the competitive 8pm timeslot.
Mr Sirs
16-02-2012
Originally Posted by Charnham:
“not really no, that rating is pretty much standard, it only gets 1 million when EE airs against an hour long Emmerdale, or a special episode has aired.

looking at the BBC websie, I think its 3 episodes over 3 weeks.”



Thanks for the reply. Hopefully the powers that be will hope to see it up around the 1 million mark tonight!
Charnham
16-02-2012
Originally Posted by Mr Sirs:
“Thanks for the reply. Hopefully the powers that be will hope to see it up around the 1 million mark tonight!”

it may increase but i would not expect it to be 1 million.
Roscoe Barnes
16-02-2012
Originally Posted by Charnham:
“it may increase but i would not expect it to be 1 million.”

I think with the Emmerdale clash tonight, 1m is almost a cert for the BBC3 repeat at 10pm.
Charnham
16-02-2012
Originally Posted by Roscoe Barnes:
“I think with the Emmerdale clash tonight, 1m is almost a cert for the BBC3 repeat at 10pm.”

I think many people will be glad of the chance to not watch

Spoiler
Heather (generally), and Whitney throw her life away on one of the Moon brothers, poor Fatz. Still its not all bad, Alife without Kat is more bearable than Alife with Kat.
Hollywood1989
16-02-2012
I did not think Alex Polizzi : the fixer would rate that good, 2.3m is good, did the hotel inspector rate simular on CH5?
mlt11
16-02-2012
Originally Posted by Brekkie:
“Ouch for the final. Are the QF splits decided then?”

Originally Posted by Steve Williams:
“Seems like it. In Euro 2008 they decided before the tournament that ITV would get the Thursday quarter final and the Beeb the Friday one, probably because Thursday was a weaker night for ITV and Friday a weaker night for the Beeb, and then they decided on the other two during the tournament itself. So they could have decided the quarter finals already if they consider the slots more important than the teams in them.”

Quarter-finals:

BBC - 1st and 4th picks
ITV - 2nd and 3rd picks

The whole point is that the BBC chose QF 1st pick as their overall tournament 1st pick, thus allowing ITV to get 2 England group games.

The timeslots can't be known for certain yet as if England make the QF it will be on BBC yet we don't know where England will finish in their group.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/16137701
Andy Parish
16-02-2012
Originally Posted by Andy Parish:
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Consolidated figures for The Royal Bodyguard (Timeshift in brackets) :

Episode 1: 8.35m (+ 1.30m)
Episode 2: 5.23m (+ 0.73m)
Episode 3: 3.54m (+ 0.61m)
Episode 4: 3.10m (+ 0.51m)
Episode 5: 3.26m (+ 0.49m)
Episode 6: 3.33m (+ 0.54m)”

Final episode data added.
eddiemundo
16-02-2012
Originally Posted by rzt:
“Wednesday 15th February Overnights

Sky Atlantic
20:00- Friday Night Lights: 38k (0.17%)
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Despite the constant adverts on Sky these last few weeks - the series has started really low. Just goes to show that no matter how much you plug a show - it'll never always be a success.
Charnham
16-02-2012
Originally Posted by Andy Parish:
“Final episode data added.”

well at least it stayed above 3 million, is not much but it could have been worse.

Originally Posted by eddiemundo:
“Despite the constant adverts on Sky these last few weeks - the series has started really low. Just goes to show that no matter how much you plug a show - it'll never always be a success.”

well S1 did air on ITV 4.

Is another show built around something that is very American, and not something many Brits understand, and yeah the pressure put on those high school students is totally unwarranted.

Its one of those rare TV shows, that is a genuine look at another culture.
Dancc
16-02-2012
Originally Posted by eddiemundo:
“Despite the constant adverts on Sky these last few weeks - the series has started really low. Just goes to show that no matter how much you plug a show - it'll never always be a success.”

Interestingly I'm sure it was on Netflix UK when the service first launched last month but it seems to have vanished now. Typical Sky hoovering up exclusive rights.

In any case, I don't honestly think Friday Night Lights is the sort of show that was ever going to find an audience of note here so quite why they went for it I don't know. Like Six Feet Under which they started reshowing in the 9pm timeslot to disappointing ratings, it will probably get pushed out of primetime before long. In the case of the latter I see tonight's new to Sky Atlantic episode goes out as late as 12.45am. Clearly these are not programmes suited to a linear channel like Sky Atlantic but streaming services like Netflix, Lovefilm and even Sky Go.
Andy Parish
16-02-2012
Top 100 overnights (w/e 12/02/12)

Top 30 overnights BBC2, Ch4, Ch5 (w/e 12/02/12)

Top 30 Timeshifted programmes (w/e 05/02/12)

Demographic Focus - (w/e - 12/02/12)
Dancc
16-02-2012
Originally Posted by Hollywood1989:
“I did not think Alex Polizzi : the fixer would rate that good, 2.3m is good, did the hotel inspector rate simular on CH5?”

At its peak on Monday nights in the summer of 2009 (which, by the way, is where they should schedule it every year if they want to maximise the numbers) The Hotel Inspector was pulling in over 2m in the overnights. It peaked at 2.6m in the officials.

More recently in more competitive slots it has tended to rate around the 1.4m mark, rising to around 1.8m in the officials. Still excellent figures for C5, but admittedly not as good as The Fixer's current numbers. Worth noting though her new show broadens the net a bit to cover all different types of businesses so that could partly explain the increased appeal, as well as the lack of adverts and the fact she's on a higher profile channel now. She is of course a highly watchable TV personality and so it doesn't come as a surprise to me that she's been well received on the Beeb.

However, it doesn't always work out so well. The previous Hotel Inspector to jump ship Ruth Watson now works on a programme called Country House Rescue on Channel 4 which regularly attracts lower ratings than what she used to get on C5.
Mr Sirs
16-02-2012
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“At its peak in the summer of 2009 (which, by the way, is where they should schedule it every year if they want to maximise the numbers) The Hotel Inspector was pulling in over 2m in the overnights. It peaked at 2.6m in the officials.

More recently in more competitive slots it has tended to rate around the 1.4m mark, rising to around 1.8m in the officials. Still excellent figures for C5, but admittedly not as good as the numbers The Fixer is currently doing. Worth noting though her new show broadens the net a bit to cover all different types of businesses so that could partly explain the increased appeal, as well as the lack of adverts and the fact she's on a higher profile channel now. She is of course a highly watchable TV personality and so it doesn't come as a surprise to me that she's been well received on the Beeb.

However, it doesn't always work out so well. The previous Hotel Inspector to jump ship Ruth Watson now works on a programme called Country House Rescue on Channel 4 which regularly attracts lower ratings than what she used to get on C5.”


For me that programme was thoroughly wasted by her use of the F word. Totally unnecessarybecause she was strong at getting her point over anyway, and for a lady quite disappointing.
Jonwo
16-02-2012
I wonder who'll they are going to replace Alex with on The Hotel Inspector, I think they should go for a male inspector or even Alex's mother Olga Polizzi who's a very successful hotelier.

The Restaraunt Inspector is returning as well soon.
newkid30
16-02-2012
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“At its peak on Monday nights in the summer of 2009 (which, by the way, is where they should schedule it every year if they want to maximise the numbers) The Hotel Inspector was pulling in over 2m in the overnights. It peaked at 2.6m in the officials.

More recently in more competitive slots it has tended to rate around the 1.4m mark, rising to around 1.8m in the officials. Still excellent figures for C5, but admittedly not as good as The Fixer's current numbers. Worth noting though her new show broadens the net a bit to cover all different types of businesses so that could partly explain the increased appeal, as well as the lack of adverts and the fact she's on a higher profile channel now. She is of course a highly watchable TV personality and so it doesn't come as a surprise to me that she's been well received on the Beeb.

However, it doesn't always work out so well. The previous Hotel Inspector to jump ship Ruth Watson now works on a programme called Country House Rescue on Channel 4 which regularly attracts lower ratings than what she used to get on C5.”

It's a weird one the channel hopping. Channel 4 poached Watson from 5 and was replaced by Polizzi. Watson bombed on 4.
Then 4 poached Mary Portas from BBC2, and she did a tweaked version of Queen of Shops which did not work, and which bombed too but to a lesser degree.
Now BBC2 have poached Polizzi from 5 and she's basically doing Queen of Shops under a different name, The Fixer.
She's doing better than at 5, but less that Queen of shops was getting on BBC2 before Portas left.
Talk about musical chairs

Have to say I do like Polizzi, especially since she invested in decongestant, she used to sound as if she had a constant blocked nose.
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