|
||||||||
The Ratings Thread (Part 31) |
![]() |
|
|
Thread Tools | Search this Thread |
|
|
#301 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 10,940
|
My mum's currently watching The Exit List on ITV1+1
Matt Allwright - Nick Knowles lite. That's three new game shows in the last five months where ITV1 haven't helped themselves with their choice of hosts - Gethin Jones in Holding Out For A Hero, Jeremy Kyle in High Stakes, Matt Allwright in The Exit List. They've obviously looked at Knowles and thought "Well, if he can be turned into the new Bob Monkhouse....." Knowles is having a good 2012 so far - top of the Saturday ratings with Who Dares Wins, 5m+ for DIY SOS, Perfection neck-and-neck with Deal Or No Deal in the daytime ratings..... |
|
|
|
Please sign in or register to remove this advertisement.
|
|
|
#302 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Cymru
Posts: 12,702
|
Quote:
My mum's currently watching The Exit List on ITV1+1
Matt Allwright - Nick Knowles lite. That's three new game shows in the last five months where ITV1 haven't helped themselves with their choice of hosts - Gethin Jones in Holding Out For A Hero, Jeremy Kyle in High Stakes, Matt Allwright in The Exit List. They've obviously looked at Knowles and thought "Well, if he can be turned into the new Bob Monkhouse....." Knowles is having a good 2012 so far - top of the Saturday ratings with Who Dares Wins, 5m+ for DIY SOS, Perfection neck-and-neck with Deal Or No Deal in the daytime ratings..... Quote:
Where do all the men go?
If my wife is watching one of her programmes, I'm still in the lounge, surfing the net or reading, but aware of what's on the TV. If I was in a BARB home, would I be counted as a viewer? |
|
|
|
#303 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 1,489
|
Football semi-final goes to extra-time on BBC2. I'm guessing Rhod Gilbert will be postponed.
|
|
|
|
|
#304 |
|
Inactive Member
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 8,397
|
Quote:
That's three new game shows in the last five months where ITV1 haven't helped themselves with their choice of hosts - Gethin Jones in Holding Out For A Hero, Jeremy Kyle in High Stakes, Matt Allwright in The Exit List. They've obviously looked at Knowles and thought "Well, if he can be turned into the new Bob Monkhouse....."
Quote:
. I wonder how many of the aforementioned ITV shows would have got 5m+ on Saturday nights had they been BBC1 lottery shows.
! Secret Fortune is also quite a poor quiz-show but rates well because it is very middle of the road and has the National Lottery name stuck before it. Holding Out for a Hero was just like Secret Fortune but because it wasn't on BBC1, it didn't have the National Lottery name before it, it got a few million fewer viewers. Paul Brassey, who works for the BBC light entertainment department, said as much a few days ago. He said new game-shows these days have almost no chance of succeeding unless they're outside of peak time or are formatted under the National Lottery branding. I do like In It To Win It though which is good fun.Anyone know the last time a new peak time gameshow became a 5+ series ratings hit which didn't have the 'National Lottery' name? |
|
|
|
|
#305 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 5,924
|
Quote:
But what was commissioned first? Super Smart Animals (BBC1) or Super Tiny Animals. (ITV1 - shown late last year)
Why the animals obsession? Quote:
Yes, ITV1 brought us Super Tiny Animals. Now BBC One is bringing us Super Smart Animals. I swear these two channels get more and more alike each and every day, I can't say I'll be rushing to set the series link for this one!
. Super Fluffy animals was a doc looking at the growing popularity of Micro pigs and Handbag dog's. Super Smart animals has been in production at the BBC natural History Unit for nearly 3 years and has filmed experiments around to the world. To determine the IQ and EQ of various animals. |
|
|
|
|
#306 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 5,924
|
Quote:
BBC1 could have the awful Bank Job with the 'National Lottery' name stuck before it and it would probably start with 5million+ , lol
! Secret Fortune is also quite a poor quiz-show but rates well because it is very middle of the road and has the National Lottery name stuck before it. Holding Out for a Hero was just like Secret Fortune but because it wasn't on BBC1,Both flopped with the lottery branding in recent years. Quote:
My mum's currently watching The Exit List on ITV1+1
Matt Allwright - Nick Knowles lite. Knowles is having a good 2012 so far - top of the Saturday ratings with Who Dares Wins, 5m+ for DIY SOS, Perfection neck-and-neck with Deal Or No Deal in the daytime ratings.....
|
|
|
|
|
#307 |
|
Inactive Member
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 8,397
|
Quote:
Er what about Guestimation and This Time Tommorrow??
Both flopped with the lottery branding in recent years. This Time Tomorrow also launched with the default 'National Lottery' audience of over 5 million and had 5 million for episode 6. Again, it was only when it went up against The X Factor that its ratings dropped low: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/This_Time_Tomorrow |
|
|
|
|
#308 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 11,066
|
Quote:
God - he's on 7 times a week at the moment - making Schofield look like a slacker there. I wonder how many of the aforementioned ITV shows would have got 5m+ on Saturday nights had they been BBC1 lottery shows.
|
|
|
|
|
#309 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 12,683
|
Quote:
Paul Brassey, who works for the BBC light entertainment department, said as much a few days ago. He said new game-shows these days have almost no chance of succeeding unless they're outside of peak time or are formatted under the National Lottery branding.
And generally I just struggle with this notion that 5+ million people sit through an hour of In It To Win It or Secret Fortune for five minutes worth of lottery draws particularly in an age where the national lottery isn't as big as it once was and the numbers are so readily accessible from so many other sources. Do you honestly believe if anyone at the BBC thought the lottery draws could lock in a 5 million audience we wouldn't see them attached to something like The Magicians on Saturday nights instead? If ITV are serious about wanting a new prime time game show they need to find a good format and then they need to schedule it well (and perhaps find a host audiences might want to watch to hold it all together). I don't for one second believe that ITV scheduled The Exit List or High Stakes on Tuesday night expecting a hit. They did it because it was relatively cheap filler and audiences ignored it as a result. |
|
|
|
|
#310 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 253
|
Quote:
Less red, more black! It's the Top 20!
Most Watched Shows of 2012 [Top 20 - Officials] 01 - 10.98m - EASTENDERS (02/01/12) - BBC1/HD 02 - 10.66m - SHERLOCK (01/01/12) - BBC1/HD 03 - 9.95m - CORONATION STREET (02/01/12) - ITV1/HD 04 - 9.83m - CALL THE MIDWIFE (15/01/12) - BBC1/HD 04 - 9.29m - DANCING ON ICE (08/01/12) - ITV1/HD 05 - 9.11m - EMMERDALE (05/01/12) - ITV1/HD 06 - 8.00m - WILD AT HEART (08/01/12) - ITV1/HD 07 - 7.97m - ABSOLUTELY FABULOUS (01/01/12) - BBC1/HD 08 - 7.87m - ENDEAVOUR (02/01/12) - ITV1/HD 09 - 7.32m - ABOVE SUSPICION (09/01/12) - ITV1/HD 10 - 6.99m - CASUALTY (07/01/12) - BBC1/HD 11 - 6.81m - MATCH OF THE DAY (11/01/12) - BBC1/HD 12 - 6.60m - MRS BROWN'S BOYS (02/01/12) - BBC1/HD 13 - 6.51m - HUSTLE (13/01/12) - BBC1/HD 14 - 6.41m - ANTIQUES ROADSHOW (08/01/12) - BBC1/HD 15 - 6.16m - COUNTRYFILE (15/01/12) - BBC1/HD 16 - 5.96m - BBC NEWS (03/01/12) - BBC1/HD 17 - 5.88m - THE NATIONAL LOTTERY: WHO DARES WINS (07/01/12) - BBC1/HD 18 - 5.82m - MIDSOMER MURDERS (09/01/12) - ITV1* 18 - 5.47m - HOLBY CITY (03/01/12) - BBC1/HD 19 - 5.43m - NEW TRICKS (12/01/12) - BBC1/HD 20 - 5.37m - CELEBRITY MASTERMIND (03/01/12) - BBC1/HD Notes: - Endeavour's rating including HD is from rzt, Endeavour's rating is rounded up, but I don't anticipate will stay in there for many months so no losing sleep if it should be rounded down! - Midsomer Murders' rating excludes HD Most Watched Multichannel Shows of 2011 [Top 20 - Officials] 01 - 2.16m - TREASURE ISLAND (01/01/12) - Sky1 02 - 1.95m - LIVE FORD FOOTBALL SPECIAL (04/01/12) - Sky Sports 1 03 - 1.73m - LIVE FORD SUPER SUNDAY (15/01/12) - Sky Sports 1 04 - 1.47m - FOYLE'S WAR (07/01/12) - ITV3 05 - 1.42m - STELLA (06/01/12) - Sky1 06 - 1.40m - LIVE FORD MONDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL (02/01/12) - Sky Sorts 1 07 - 1.25m - THE BIG BANG THEORY (05/01/12) - E4 08 - 1.22m - HAWAII FIVE-0 (08/01/12) - Sky1 09 - 1.13m - EASTENDERS (13/01/12) - BBC3 10 - 1.12m - DOC MARTIN (14/01/12) - ITV3 11 - 1.12m - FILM: RATATOUILLE (01/01/12) - BBC3 12 - 1.11m - THE STORY OF MUSICALS (10/01/12) - BBC4 13 - 1.07m - FILM: CHARLIE & THE CHOCOLATE FACTORY (01/01/12) - ITV2 14 - 1.03m - GOT TO DANCE (01/01/12) - Sky1 15 - 1.00m - DESPERATE HOUSEWIVES (08/01/12) - E4 16 - 0.95m - ALL NEW YOU'VE BEEN FRAMED SPECIAL (08/01/12) - ITV2 17 - 0.94m - FAMILY GUY (08/01/12) - BBC3 18 - 0.88m - SHERLOCK (07/01/12) - BBC3 19 - 0.87m - TRACY BEAKER RETURNS (13/01/12) - CBBC 20 - 0.86m - FILM: TRANSFORMERS 2: REVENGE OF THE SITH (02/01/12) - Film4 Source: BARB. Excludes +1, Includes HD for Terrestrial Chart. Only 1 programme per 'show', i.e. only one Ford Super Sunday game. For instance the consolidated for Episode 3 - 9.78 |
|
|
|
|
#311 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 10,940
|
Quote:
Sorry, but what do Gethin Jones, Jeremy Kyle and Matt Allwright have in common with Nick Knowles apart from being male? Are you saying that any new gameshow with a male host is just because a broadcaster has looked at Nick Knowles' success?
Quote:
Er what about Guestimation and This Time Tomorrow??
Both flopped with the lottery branding in recent years. |
|
|
|
|
#312 |
|
Inactive Member
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 8,397
|
Quote:
Broadly speaking those lottery branded game shows all air in the same time period on a Saturday night almost every week of the year and so the audience knows where to find them and what to expect.
Quote:
And generally I just struggle with this notion that 5+ million people sit through an hour of In It To Win It or Secret Fortune for five minutes worth of lottery draws particularly in an age where the national lottery isn't as big as it once was and the numbers are so readily accessible from so many other sources.
I'm not saying that the 5 minute draws are what gets people watching these quiz shows. There might be a few people who do that but it's mainly the familiarity of the brand which means that lots of different game show formats can be launched under the 'National Lottery' banner and start off really well whereas if they didn't have that 'National Lottery' banner, they'd have started off lower.Quote:
Do you honestly believe if anyone at the BBC thought the lottery draws could lock in a 5 million audience we wouldn't see them attached to something like The Magicians on Saturday nights instead?
The National Lottery shows do lock in 5 million+ for their first episodes, that's been proven by the ratings on the Wikipedia pages I've seen of all the new Lottery shows to have launched recently. If a show is bad, ratings will drop off after that but when a show is starting at 5m+ they're automatically in a good starting position. If The Magicians was branded under The National Lottery, not that it would as it isn't a game-show, it would also have started with 5 million+ for its first ever episode. It did get 5 million+ anyway but it would've been even higher than what it actually got with the NL branding.Quote:
Plenty of National Lottery formats have flopped over the years. The National Lottery name is no guarantee of success.
|
|
|
|
|
#313 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 525
|
Quote:
Why arent more Sherlock episodes in the top 20. Episodes 2 and 3 should be higher than Above suspicion.
For instance the consolidated for Episode 3 - 9.78 |
|
|
|
|
#314 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 50,506
|
Quote:
Going by that logic then Benidorm ER is a rip off of ITV's Benidorm. They certainly have more similarities.
Super Fluffy animals was a doc looking at the growing popularity of Micro pigs and Handbag dog's. Super Smart animals has been in production at the BBC natural History Unit for nearly 3 years and has filmed experiments around to the world. To determine the IQ and EQ of various animals. |
|
|
|
|
#315 |
|
Guest
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 245
|
Quote:
Well done Corrie. Big characters should sometimes have a happy ending and others face (Tracy) their comeuppance. This is more satisfying than someone dying with a newcomer hogging the scenes (Derek)
![]() Quote:
Excellent ratings there for Corrie, particularly the second episode. Is that the first 10m+ rating for a soap in a while?
|
|
|
|
|
#316 |
|
Guest
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 245
|
Quote:
I agree, too. The Christmas Day episode promotion is especially disappointing now. They keep following the style of the 2007 Christmas Day trail, i.e. a few clips with a Christmas tune playing over them.
|
|
|
|
|
#317 |
|
Guest
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 245
|
Quote:
It would be interesting to know whether this is a decision made by the BBC or the EastEnders production team. Does anyone happen to know if the trailers from a few years ago were made by the EastEnders team or whether they were made by the BBC PR team? The lack of (effective) promo for EastEnders in recent times has been rather noticeable though. I actually think last years 'Branning Week' provides the most obvious example of how poor the promotion has been. I wonder if casual viewers were even aware that was happening before it was happening.
The lack of promotion around the show is very odd indeed. The New Year's Day trailer should have run for a good couple of weeks but instead it appeared literally a couple of days before. Quote:
There has been no rumours of them starting filming in Scotland yet which would presumably mean there will only be the last 10 episodes filmed in Rochdale shown before the Summer, with the Scotland shark jumping series starting in the Autumn.
Therefore I would say anytime between 15th Feb and 4th April! There is no consistancy in when Waterloo Road series run, it's started in week 1 before and has started as late as April! |
|
|
|
|
#318 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 12,049
|
Quote:
Yes, ITV1 brought us Super Tiny Animals. Now BBC One is bringing us Super Smart Animals. I swear these two channels get more and more alike each and every day, I can't say I'll be rushing to set the series link for this one!
So they have the words "Super" and "Animals" in them. Do you seriously think a new BBC Natural History series is going to be in the same league as the daytime filler about celebrity toy pets ITV promoted into primetime? Quote:
Farewell Becky is trending on Twitter. This might suggest that the Tuesday Flop Zone will be 30 mins shorter than it usually is.
![]() Quote:
But what was commissioned first? Super Smart Animals (BBC1) or Super Tiny Animals. (ITV1 - shown late last year)
Why the animals obsession? ![]() Quote:
Wednesday AND Thursday? Good to see them making good use of their pre-9pm slots which have been 'kept open' due to a lack of soaps!
Quote:
It seems every person who has ever been on Live at the Apollo get's their own show thesedays. BBC1 seem to be overdoing the stand up comedian stuff thesedays.
Quote:
If it's anything like Ask Rhod Glbert or John Bishop's Britain it will be an attempt at a stand up show but as part of some half-arsed format.
You're really on an anti-BBC1 roll tonight aren't you? Quote:
It can't be long before Sarah Millican get's her own BBC1 show!
![]() I'm no fan of SM. But at least if she had her own show, it might keep her from appearing on everyone elses! Quote:
I wondered why ITV made it a Top 12 and not a Top 10 until I saw there were no ITV shows until number 11.
![]() Quote:
ITV Media had just a Top 10. But then had a paragraph mentioning Jeremy Kyle was 11th with 515k and YBF was 12th so I just posted that Top 12.
, comes along and debunks another one. Damn you, rzt...
|
|
|
|
#319 |
|
Guest
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 1,994
|
Speaking of BBC and ITV programmes with similar names, has one of them given in over the 'Love Life' thing yet? Personally I think ITV should change the title of theirs, as BBC did announce theirs first. Does anyone know when they are set to air, as it may come down to which one is aired first?
I know Upstairs Downstairs isn't meant to start until March, but given how well Call the Midwife is rating they should think about bringing it forward to the 18th, giving it the best lead in possible. |
|
|
|
|
#320 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 12,049
|
Quote:
But what was commissioned first? Super Smart Animals (BBC1) or Super Tiny Animals?
..... FIIIIIIGGGGGGHHHHHHHT!!!!!!!!!!
|
|
|
|
#321 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: West Midlands
Posts: 5,294
|
Quote:
Amazing rating for Corrie, I assumed people were over predicting, and some probably were, so to get over 11m is unexpected.
Also to note is the high rating for Cornwall, something that should be factored in in all these endless soap scheduling discussions. Panorama's attempt to get good ratings with a populist topic failed. Nothing to say about The Royal Bodyguard. It must be the biggest flop on BBC1 in years when you consider they can usually guarantee to get at least 3.5m for everything at 9pm. |
|
|
|
|
#322 |
|
Inactive Member
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 111
|
Corrie should hold up well for the rest of the week 10.5m on Thursday maybe? EE normally wins the night on Thursday but I can see Corrie coming out on top comfortably tomorrow.
|
|
|
|
|
#323 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 117,021
|
Take EastEnders out of the equation and BBC One would have their own flopzone on Monday's between 7.30 and 9.30. Mrs. Brown's Boys did brilliantly last night - what superb climb in figures considering the lead in! The Royal Bodyguard was scuppered by hype and presentation; if it had been promoted as a children's show and aired in an early evening BBC One it probably would've got away with similar ratings and less criticism.
A reasonable if not fabulous night for BBC Two; University Challenge is a very consistent perfomer and I'm desperate for them to team it up with Only Connect (though I say that every Tuesday! ![]() ). The 6pm hour also did very well, as always; attracting those who aren't bothered with soaps or the news.It's going to be a case of going from the sublime to the ridiculous for ITV1 but what brilliant ratings and, more importantly, share for Coronation Street last night. Cornwall also benefited from the sandwich but Above Suspicion didn't climb that much despite the higher lead in. it's still pulling in decent figures but if the BBC placed tougher opposition against it it could dip. Coppers performed well once again for Channel 4 though Party Paramedics couldn't take advantage of the lead in. SuperScrimpers recorded a decent figure considering the opposition and Hollyoaks is holding on to a plus 1m+ audience. A very nice rating for Celebrity Big Brother and Bit On The Side - Celebrity Wedding Planner possibly could've done better with a near 3m lead in. World's Toughest trucker struggled in the 7pm slot, and the 6.30pm news is a bit of a waste but isn't rating any worse than OK! TV.Police Interceptors performed ok from 8pm. Reasonable figures for the soaps as well; it's good to see that they haven't been particularly effected by the winter break. |
|
|
|
|
#324 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Cymru
Posts: 12,702
|
What did Mrs Brown get on Boxing Day. Could it beat it with the Casualty lead in and all new Saturday flop zone competition for it's series finale?
|
|
|
|
#325 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 525
|
Simon Cowell has confirmed that Steve Jones has been axed as host of The X Factor USA.
|
|
|
![]() |
|
All times are GMT. The time now is 04:23.




! Secret Fortune is also quite a poor quiz-show but rates well because it is very middle of the road and has the National Lottery name stuck before it. Holding Out for a Hero was just like Secret Fortune but because it wasn't on BBC1, it didn't have the National Lottery name before it, it got a few million fewer viewers. Paul Brassey, who works for the BBC light entertainment department, said as much a few days ago. He said new game-shows these days have almost no chance of succeeding unless they're outside of peak time or are formatted under the National Lottery branding. I do like In It To Win It though which is good fun.

