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The Ratings Thread (Part 31)
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D.M.N.
18-02-2012
Originally Posted by myscrapbook2011:
“29th June 2009 - the day she was hired - I know it because it's my sister's and my brother's joint birthday that day - not twins by the way.”

Hmmm, do I believe myscrapbook2011's because it happened to fall on one of his relative's birthdays, or do I believe Channel 4's own press release?

http://www.channel4.com/news/channel...nt-for-top-job

Quote:
“Tuesday 14 September 2010
Jay Hunt, the BBC1 controller, has been named as the new chief creative officer of Channel 4. She will oversee all the channel's programming when she takes up the job next year.”

myscrapbook2011
18-02-2012
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“Hmmm, do I believe myscrapbook2011's because it happened to fall on one of his relative's birthdays, or do I believe Channel 4's own press release?

http://www.channel4.com/news/channel...nt-for-top-job”

It's 2 relatives. I was on my way to their joint birthday party when I read it in The Sun..... Funilly enough it was on page 3.....
grahamzxy
18-02-2012
Originally Posted by myscrapbook2011:
“1. She was hired in June 2009.
2. There's no difference - the DOP has a say over EVERYTHING - HENCE BEING THE DOP!!!!!”

Originally Posted by myscrapbook2011:
“29th June 2009 - the day she was hired - I know it because it's my sister's and my brother's joint birthday that day - not twins by the way.”

Maggie Brown
guardian.co.uk, Tuesday 14 September 2010 12.00 BST
Article history

Channel 4 appoints Jay Hunt as chief creative officer
BBC1 controller expected to join commercial broadcaster in January, while C4 head Julian Bellamy is to depart

Channel 4 has today confirmed that the BBC1 controller, Jay Hunt, will be joining as chief creative officer.

Julian Bellamy, the head of Channel 4 who has been acting chief creative officer and applied for the job full time, will be leaving the broadcaster.

Hunt will be on a salary just under £400,000 and is expected to join Channel 4 in January. She will have a seat on the Channel 4 executive board, while leading its new integrated commissioning and content team across all platforms.
Tassium
18-02-2012
Originally Posted by myscrapbook2011:
“29th June 2009 - the day she was hired - I know it because it's my sister's and my brother's joint birthday that day - not twins by the way.”

The anouncement was made in late 2010. She joined in 2011 I'm pretty sure.

She really hasn't been there very long.
Dancc
18-02-2012
Originally Posted by myscrapbook2011:
“It's 2 relatives. I was on my way to their joint birthday party when I read it in The Sun..... Funilly enough it was on page 3.....”

Well you must be mistaken. The facts have been posted several times now, why not just accept you were wrong? It's tedious in the extreme.
myscrapbook2011
18-02-2012
Originally Posted by Tassium:
“The anouncement was made in late 2010. She joined in 2011 I'm pretty sure.

She really hasn't been there very long.”

Well I'll pull out the article in question for everyone to see.....
Tassium
18-02-2012
Time to press the ignore button I think...
myscrapbook2011
18-02-2012
Originally Posted by Tassium:
“Time to press the ignore button I think...”

Time to stop drinking the whisky.....
myscrapbook2011
18-02-2012
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Well you must be mistaken. The facts have been posted several times now, why not just accept you were wrong? It's tedious in the extreme.”

See an above post of mine.... I'll pull the article out....
grahamzxy
18-02-2012
Originally Posted by myscrapbook2011:
“Well I'll pull out the article in question for everyone to see.....”

I just searched Jay Hunt on thesun.co.uk for archives, no mention of a move in 2009 at all - though we wait with baited breath. I am not saying The Sun didn't claim it - if they pulled a story from the website, no doubt they got told to.
Score
18-02-2012
Guys, don't feed the troll. Just ignore them.
grahamzxy
18-02-2012
Originally Posted by Score:
“Guys, don't feed the troll. Just ignore them.”

Severe lack of ratings from last night - only Soaps and a few others, so not a lot to chatter about really.
Glenn A
18-02-2012
Originally Posted by jake lyle:
“It was axed before she was hired, surely you knew that

Anyway are you really trying to claim that cheap E4 shows like Shipwrecked carry the same importance and equivalence to Big Brother,”

The decision was taken in August 2009 when Ms Hunt was at the BBC. She took over at Channel 4 just as UBB was finishing.
Like it or not, BB has been the most talked about show of the last 10 years and more or less kicked off reality television. However, its cheap imitators have largely fallen by the wayside, although someone at Channel 4 must like Shipwrecked as it has been cancelled and revived twice. So much for no more derivative BB rip offs then.
Dancc
18-02-2012
Originally Posted by grahamzxy:
“Severe lack of ratings from last night - only Soaps and a few others, so not a lot to chatter about really.”

I think there must be someone at DS with a sick sense of humour. They must know by now this thread falls apart when we go too long without data. They're probably having a right laugh at our expense about now, full ratings spreadsheet for yesterday in a separate window.
D.M.N.
18-02-2012
Originally Posted by myscrapbook2011:
“Well I'll pull out the article in question for everyone to see.....”

Wait, this is based on an article in The Sun of all places?

She was employed with BBC until 2010 so had zero influence on Big Brother's axing on Channel 4.
Glenn A
18-02-2012
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“Wait, this is based on an article in The Sun of all places?

She was employed with BBC until 2010 so had zero influence on Big Brother's axing on Channel 4.”

Exactly, she joined after the decision was made. However, she is yet to find a show with as much influence and early ratings success.
Charnham
18-02-2012
Originally Posted by Glenn A:
“Exactly, she joined after the decision was made. However, she is yet to find a show with as much influence and early ratings success.”

I cant help but feel that judging someone on the fact they have not found the new Big Brother, or a show with a similar level of success, is setting them up to fail.
Danslink
18-02-2012
Millie Clode to join Tim Lovejoy and Simon Rimmer on Channel 4's Sunday Brunch.
AlexiR
18-02-2012
Originally Posted by Glenn A:
“Yes I reckon the Head of Light Entertainment is a BBC plant to wreck ITV. Anyone who dreams up Born to Shine and Red or Black must have a grudge against ITV.”

In ITV's defence I really don't think Born To Shine is a terrible format on paper. Talented kids teaching celebrities a skill all in the name of charity might not sound like a blockbuster show but at the same time it doesn't sound like the unmitigated disaster it was. Arguably Born to Shine's biggest problem was the frankly bizarre choice of presenter and the rather poor production.
Dancc
18-02-2012
Originally Posted by Danslink:
“Millie Clode to join Tim Lovejoy and Simon Rimmer on Channel 4's Sunday Brunch.”

Didn't they want Louise Redknapp then? I'd have sooner replaced Tim Lovejoy myself.
Glenn A
18-02-2012
Originally Posted by Charnham:
“I cant help but feel that judging someone on the fact they have not found the new Big Brother, or a show with a similar level of success, is setting them up to fail.”

I wouldn't suggest that, but she needs a decade defining show in the same way BB defined the noughties and TFI defined the nineties. Maybe Gypsy Weddings could be the one as the last series was the station's biggest hit for years.
Charnham
18-02-2012
just found a video for the My Man Can format

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4Omvd6fnH0

not sure I approve to be honest, who are these women to make these decisions for there men, and then apparently let the bloke take all the blame when he cant preform in an absurdly hyped up environment. Heck why take it in turns, tasks for both him and her.

Not sure if its offensive to women, but its hardly something im interested in as a man.

Originally Posted by Glenn A:
“I wouldn't suggest that, but she needs a decade defining show in the same way BB defined the noughties and TFI defined the nineties. Maybe Gypsy Weddings could be the one as the last series was the station's biggest hit for years.”

I dont know about that, shouldn't the job to be to build an entire schedule, not just one smash hit?

That smash hit is nice, but I would much rather have an entire schedule of successful shows.

There is no question Gypsy Weddings is a hit, but unlike Big Brother its not ground breaking.
Fudd
18-02-2012
Bit of a low night all round really - Hustle did well and dented Law and Order. Coronation Street beat EastEnders but the gap wasn't as big as it has been and the three day gap couldn't have helped. Home and Away did well to beat Hollyoaks but it did have itself as a lead in!
Glenn A
18-02-2012
Originally Posted by AlexiR:
“In ITV's defence I really don't think Born To Shine is a terrible format on paper. Talented kids teaching celebrities a skill all in the name of charity might not sound like a blockbuster show but at the same time it doesn't sound like the unmitigated disaster it was. Arguably Born to Shine's biggest problem was the frankly bizarre choice of presenter and the rather poor production.”

My local Morrisons had hundreds of Born to Shine wristbands unsold for months. It could have worked as the concept was interesting, but awful production and presentation killed it.
Now here's one that could work again, Child's Play, a very successful mid eighties show where celebrities had to guess what children were saying.
AlexiR
18-02-2012
US Ratings Friday February 17

After a bizarre week of unexplained big drops the US broadcast networks can breath a slight sigh of relief that Friday at least seems to have been relatively stable and more easily predictable with ABC, paced by a 20/20 special on Whitney Huston, narrowly edging out CBS for the demo victory on the night.

The big success story of the night belongs to CBS' Undercover Boss which in its first Friday showing won the night and dominated the 8PM slot. It's 2.4 was almost double A Gifted Man's performance in the same slot and was down half a point on its last original outing on Sunday night. The lead-in and a move to a stronger HUT hour seems to have helped A Gifted Man out as well. In its first 9PM outing it was up 15% on last week although down two tenths on CSI: New York's performance a week ago. At 10PM Blue Bloods was down though dropping two tenths on last week.

Over on ABC Shark Tank felt the force of the increased unscripted competition at 8PM and dropped two tenths on last week but a two hour 20/20 special on Whitney Huston was up six tenths on last weeks one hour edition of 20/20. Fox's Kitchen Nightmares also got squeezed by Undercover Boss at 8PM dropping 13% week-on-week. Fringe fans can breathe a sort of sigh of relief though it seems to have settled. Once again Fringe tied a series low 1.1.

Meanwhile on NBC two of the most racist hours on television were up 33% on last year. Probably a combination of Whitney tributes and The Help having a blockbuster year at the movies. At 10PM Dateline dropped four tenths out of a substantially weaker lead-in and against stronger competition on ABC.

At The CW Friday continues to be one of their better nights of the week in the 18-49 demo at least. Nikita was up a tenth and whilst Supernatural was down a tenth at 9PM that performance currently ties it as the networks second best performer of the week (Secret Circle was adjusted down to a 0.7 in Thursday's finals).


ABC
8PM: Shark Tank – 1.5 [5.66]
9PM: 20/20 – 2.0 [7.12]

CBS
8PM: Undercover Boss – 2.4 [10.73]
9PM: A Gifted Man – 1.5 [9.51]
10PM: Blue Bloods – 1.6 [10.33]

Fox
8PM: Kitchen Nightmares – 1.3 [3.11]
9PM: Fringe – 1.1 [2.99]

NBC
8PM: NAACP Image Awards – 0.8 [2.96]
10PM: Dateline – 1.1 [4.367]

The CW
8PM: Nikita – 0.6 [1.60]
9PM: Supernatural – 0.7 [1.68]
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