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Can some of you take a chill pill and stop the bickering and personal insults?
I'm all for a bit of banter and sophisticated put downs, as some may have noticed , but tonight's spats seem a bit childish.And rather dull reading for the 90% of us not involved! |
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The eviction crowd is the one thing which can ruin Big Brother for me. They are a vile lot, so much negativity. Why this has never been sorted out, I'll never know. It can put off viewers from watching too.
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The eviction crowd is the one thing which can ruin Big Brother for me. They are a vile lot, so much negativity. Why this has never been sorted out, I'll never know. It can put off viewers from watching too.
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The live vote tends to change each year - it was entertainment programme last year. Although the year before it was soaps and Corrie won as well. I suspect you may be right - Becky's exit will have helped them a great deal tonight. I'm glad for them - they don't tend to dominate the awards like EastEnders do but I think they deserved that one tonight.
Not sure how This Morning eclipses Top Gear these days though. |
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How do you sort it out though? Short of not having a crowd there I'm not sure there's anyway you can stop it.
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The eviction crowd is the one thing which can ruin Big Brother for me. They are a vile lot, so much negativity. Why this has never been sorted out, I'll never know. It can put off viewers from watching too.
Ratings data also supports the theory that the nasty vibe of eviction nights could be putting viewers off. They seem to be rating worse than the highlights shows on a regular basis now, which should send a message to the producers. The recaps on Fridays are also a waste of time, basically giving viewers an excuse not to tune into the first part. It all needs serious tightening up because at the moment the live shows are just too lacklustre, which is a shame when the series is as good as this one has been. |
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ITV will no doubt have a warm feeling from tonights NTA's with a number of their important shows and stars getting gongs on a live broadcast on their own channel.
And to top it off Coronation Street beating Eastenders -is there a live telephone vote on the soaps every year?-presumably C/S strong Monday shows have driven votes their way tonight. Not that I'm cynical or anything. |
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I know we all argue a bit on here but normally it's at least fairly good natured - some of the stuff tonight is just incredibly tiresome and I'll echo Robbie in saying how dull it is to read. I do love the irony of myscrapbook2011 calling people channel snobs and then childishly using the name 'Channel Snore' in the same sentence, though. Do you not realise you completely killed your (already rubbish) argument with that one?
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Back to the NTAs - what the **** has swimming the Thames got to do with television - don't think any documentary has even been screened yet.
While DA was a worthy winner, I do think that Costume Drama should get its own category. How can you compare DA and Waterloo Road as the same category? Also, Brucie quite rightly said "How is Strictly a talent show?" It isn't. It's an entertainment show and along with Dancing On Ice should have been in the entertainment category. Why no documentary award? Surely Frozen Planet would have been a more worthy "factual" winner than This Morning. Why wasn't it nominated? |
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I said exactly the same thing to my partner. There were several oddities in tonights ceremony. The David Walliams thing being one of them especially as Matt Baker gruellingly cycled the length of Britain for Children in Need! I presume that ITV are keen to give Walliams a lot of positive promotion because he's on BGT. Also, why did Dermot stop short at mentioning The Voice when will.i.am came out? Why was Gary Barlow given a special award? Yes he's done some decent charitable stuff but he's hardly been associated in TV other than The-X-Factor which won anyway.
While DA was a worthy winner, I do think that Costume Drama should get its own category. How can you compare DA and Waterloo Road as the same category? Also, Brucie quite rightly said "How is Strictly a talent show?" It isn't. It's an entertainment show and along with Dancing On Ice should have been in the entertainment category. Why no documentary award? Surely Frozen Planet would have been a more worthy "factual" winner than This Morning. Why wasn't it nominated? ![]() I would say they did it "because it was on ITV", but that would not explain The Voice's promotion. |
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I said exactly the same thing to my partner. There were several oddities in tonights ceremony. The David Walliams thing being one of them especially as Matt Baker gruellingly cycled the length of Britain for Children in Need! I presume that ITV are keen to give Walliams a lot of positive promotion because he's on BGT. Also, why did Dermot stop short at mentioning The Voice when will.i.am came out? Why was Gary Barlow given a special award? Yes he's done some decent charitable stuff but he's hardly been associated in TV other than The-X-Factor which won anyway.
While DA was a worthy winner, I do think that Costume Drama should get its own category. How can you compare DA and Waterloo Road as the same category? Also, Brucie quite rightly said "How is Strictly a talent show?" It isn't. It's an entertainment show and along with Dancing On Ice should have been in the entertainment category. Why no documentary award? Surely Frozen Planet would have been a more worthy "factual" winner than This Morning. Why wasn't it nominated? Frozen Planet will get recognised where it counts. The NTAs are just a bit of fun not to be taken seriously. |
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Dermot did mention The Voice but he seemed a bit allover the place in that link as he was on the floor rather than on the stage.
The time span is surely a year since voting for last year's long list started until the voting for this year's short list ended, so an overlapping period of around 14 months. Funny how Brucie was complaining that his mic wasn't working, yet to us at home it seemed perfectly fine?! The categories are always all over the place as they try to adapt the long established categories to current tv trends but then need to make sure there are 4 programmes in each category. Strictly obviously should be head to head with the other big 3 regardless of what they call the category. You'd never have TXF & SCD in two different categories. You can see why Ant & Dec constantly win Best Entertainment Presenter looking at the other nominees. Dermot O'Leary ok, but I wouldn't say Keith Lemon or Michael McIntyre were really 'presenters'. |
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I said exactly the same thing to my partner. There were several oddities in tonights ceremony. The David Walliams thing being one of them especially as Matt Baker gruellingly cycled the length of Britain for Children in Need! I presume that ITV are keen to give Walliams a lot of positive promotion because he's on BGT. Also, why did Dermot stop short at mentioning The Voice when will.i.am came out? Why was Gary Barlow given a special award? Yes he's done some decent charitable stuff but he's hardly been associated in TV other than The-X-Factor which won anyway.
While DA was a worthy winner, I do think that Costume Drama should get its own category. How can you compare DA and Waterloo Road as the same category? Also, Brucie quite rightly said "How is Strictly a talent show?" It isn't. It's an entertainment show and along with Dancing On Ice should have been in the entertainment category. Why no documentary award? Surely Frozen Planet would have been a more worthy "factual" winner than This Morning. Why wasn't it nominated? At the end of the day I guess ITV's only business is trying to be popular which presumably means they should be expecting to do well at this type of thing. They have tonight but it isnt always the case. Having said that popular vote these days can more be described as "fan" vote,"habit" vote or even "obsession" vote. I dont think it could ever be described as "scientific" vote. EDIT:Congrats to Sir Bruce as far as Im concerned though. That bit at the start with his duet with Ant and Dec was a rare glimpse of what tv shiny floor entertainment primarily was pre nineties. Rather than another series of Takeaway A and D should try an old fashioned entertainment/sketch/music show -not like the dreadful Christmas show a few years ago and not entwined with the Cowell extended family. |
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I was surprised to see a clip of Sherlock shown during the middle of the NTAs, even though it wasn't a nominee. I thought ITV would plug their own dramas with clips during the ceremony but they didnt do that, they plugged a rival drama. How odd!
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I said exactly the same thing to my partner. There were several oddities in tonights ceremony. The David Walliams thing being one of them especially as Matt Baker gruellingly cycled the length of Britain for Children in Need! I presume that ITV are keen to give Walliams a lot of positive promotion because he's on BGT. Also, why did Dermot stop short at mentioning The Voice when will.i.am came out? Why was Gary Barlow given a special award? Yes he's done some decent charitable stuff but he's hardly been associated in TV other than The-X-Factor which won anyway.
While DA was a worthy winner, I do think that Costume Drama should get its own category. How can you compare DA and Waterloo Road as the same category? Also, Brucie quite rightly said "How is Strictly a talent show?" It isn't. It's an entertainment show and along with Dancing On Ice should have been in the entertainment category. Why no documentary award? Surely Frozen Planet would have been a more worthy "factual" winner than This Morning. Why wasn't it nominated? |
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Dermot did mention The Voice but he seemed a bit allover the place in that link as he was on the floor rather than on the stage.
The time span is surely a year since voting for last year's long list started until the voting for this year's short list ended, so an overlapping period of around 14 months. Funny how Brucie was complaining that his mic wasn't working, yet to us at home it seemed perfectly fine?! The categories are always all over the place as they try to adapt the long established categories to current tv trends but then need to make sure there are 4 programmes in each category. Strictly obviously should be head to head with the other big 3 regardless of what they call the category. You'd never have TXF & SCD in two different categories. You can see why Ant & Dec constantly win Best Entertainment Presenter looking at the other nominees. Dermot O'Leary ok, but I wouldn't say Keith Lemon or Michael McIntyre were really 'presenters'. I also wonder if Wossy would have got the special award if his show was still on the BBC! |
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No, the presenters category was bizarre too. Sure, Ant and Dec are the only ones worthy of the prize tonight (unfortunately) but why no Tess Daly? She's excellent in Strictly! Why not John Barrowman in Tonights The Night? It was very ITV orientated!
I also wonder if Wossy would have got the special award if his show was still on the BBC! For 25 years in TV he probably deserves it. |
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Frozen Planet fell outside of the timeframe for nominations (I believe it's something like September 2010-September 2011 as that's when the longlist came out). Walliams deserved his award in fairness, and Barlow also deserves his but maybe the TV Awards wasn't the right place for it (although all his charity stuff has been through TV). Don't see why costume drama should have its own category - there wouldn't be many nominees.
Downton Abbey Upstairs Downstairs Lark Rise to Candleford South Ridings Garrows Law to name just 5! I'm sure I could find more if I researched! |
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No, the presenters category was bizarre too. Sure, Ant and Dec are the only ones worthy of the prize tonight (unfortunately) but why no Tess Daly? She's excellent in Strictly! Why not John Barrowman in Tonights The Night? It was very ITV orientated!
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I was surprised to see a clip of Sherlock shown during the middle of the NTAs, even though it wasn't a nominee. I thought ITV would plug their own dramas with clips during the ceremony but they didnt do that, they plugged a rival drama. How odd!
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Should I also phone DS and ask them why they let people on the forums who think everything they say is gospel and should be believed by every man and his Dog?
And if I did say something you would ring my mom (as Im sure you have her number) to tell her I have been a naughty boy! |
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I was surprised to see a clip of Sherlock shown during the middle of the NTAs, even though it wasn't a nominee. I thought ITV would plug their own dramas with clips during the ceremony but they didnt do that, they plugged a rival drama. How odd!
I've given up trying to make sense of the NTA's though. They are as others have said best viewed as a bit of fun rather than anything remotely consistent or serious. |
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The shortlist of 4 nominees were the most voted presenters from the long list of over a dozen people. Tess Daly isn't the best presenter around, even Strictly fans say she isn't really that good, so it's no surprise she didn't make the short list. John Barrowman is alright but he's a better actor than presenter and he was in the best actor short list at least.
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Costume dramas:
Downton Abbey Upstairs Downstairs Lark Rise to Candleford South Ridings Garrows Law to name just 5! I'm sure I could find more if I researched! The NTA's though dont really measure anything much more than fan worship-even if that fan worship is small but energetic enough to make enough noise to win. Life On Mars was nominated a few times and if things were fair, should have won at least once but I think it was eclipsed each time by Doctor Who with Tennant at his most popular. Still dont know how This Morning wins though. |
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Really surprising rating for Farewell Becky considering it didn't have a Corrie lead-in and was up against EastEnders. Everything about Corrie has been unexpectedly high this week.
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Farewell Becky is trending on Twitter. This might suggest that the Tuesday Flop Zone will be 30 mins shorter than it usually is.
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