His presenting can't be that bad surely...

Yeah This Morning winning is baffling! Maybe they should launch a Daytime Category! I am struggling to think of any facts I've learned from watching This Morning!

Five shows a week each filled with multiple reminders to vote for This Morning I'd imagine.

The NTA suffer from what every award contest has when you let the public, those with the biggest fanbases and right demographics always win. X Factor will keep winning, Doctor Who actors will keep winning, This Morning will keep winning (especially if they beg viewers to vote during every show).

They did that last year and ended up including Breakfast in there, which seemed a bit odd, a news programme going up against something like Loose Women!

People kept saying EastEnders and Doctor Who would win because of their young fanbases but Coronation Street and Downton Abbey won this year. The stereotypical view of a Corrie viewer is a northern Granny who plays bingo ! Strictly Come Dancing won a few years ago too.


John's a good little actor. Seriously, he is !

But then on the other hand, when panels of judges vote you sometimes get obscure programmes nobody has ever heard of winning, so both options have their faults. Although I suppose that depends who is on the panel, is it a load of 50 year old tv execs or the editor of Heat magazine.

A mix of both like they do at the Soap Awards is probably best.

Have they stopped closing the eye on the "pod" then? It's been an issue since BB5 and I was so pissed off in BB6 when we couldn't here the interview of the most interesting HM of the series (Makosi) due to the crowd, and it's an issue which frankly should have been addressed years ago. It's one of the first things I'd have changed if I were C5 to be honest.




When someone said Gary Barlow had got an award I assumed they were taking the piss - indeed it's the awards chosen by the NTAs themselves which really let the show down this year. After all it took Brucie forever to get an award for Outstanding Contribution to TV - while Gary does one series of The X Factor.

I still maintain that the NTA's biggest head scratcher is the Best Newcomer Award. I'd really love to know what on earth the entry requirements are for that. This year I notice that former Hollyoaks actor and Dancing on Ice contestant Chris Fountain was nominated for it...

It's basically actors who have played new characters in a soap in the last 15 months.

Several people have assured me of this but I've yet to see any evidence of it. Perhaps I should go and see him on stage sometime... although I won't because that would involve going to see John Barrowman on stage.

On the subject of his presenting skills has he managed to grasp what a microphone does yet or does he still scream at the camera as if that's the only way he could possibly be heard?

Brucie got the Lifetime acheivement award this year won by Ross.

The ones Walliams and Barlow won were extra one off awards which the NTAs had just made up.

And had absolutely nothing to do with both men agreeing to appear on popular ITV1 entertainment shows.

A 50/50 split is the best option available, half public votes, half awards show panel. A bit like they do on Strictly.


I hope your not implying anything.

Ant and Dec inhabit a world where they are pretty much the only pre watershed based entertainment act around. And they are an act rather than just plain presenters. No wonder they win year after year and ITV pay them millions(even if they are given rubbish gameshows sometimes) though its amazing to me that no one else ever appears on the scene as any kind of rival.

Ahh Brainwashing! Knew there had to be some reason.

Are you suggesting that Nick Knowles is no match for Ant & Dec?

As half the winners were thanking Twitter, I think there has been a lot of that going round

Surprised Loose Women didn't win on the brainwashing basis, as they are allegedly worst for asking for votes.

Nick Knowles is good at what he does, I say this as a fan of Perfection, but not a fan of Secret Fortune. He's a good solid presenter but that's all he is. Ant & Dec have that something extra about them which can liven up a show and they're good without the autocue. Peak time television currently is missing presenters who are good without the autocues. Sadly, they're currently most confined in daytime with the likes of Noel Edmonds, Bradley Walsh and Alexander Armstrong who are all excellent but don't have the peak time exposure Ant & Dec do.

That question has casued my brain to malfunction rather like that computer in 2001. I think its time for some shuteye.

Did anyone see spy Nick at the the awards tonight? Arguably he should be.

The NTAs seem to have generated more posts than Downton topping the Christmas ratings!

We'll be on Part 32 by Friday at this rate...

I've seen Barrowman in a few things both screen and stage he's really good but as a presenter he's unbearable, Tonight's The Night is a good example of this and I think he'd be fine if he toned it down a notch r three . I've noticed he's doing more acting roles, he's in an upcoming episode of Hustle and a new BBC Two sketch show.

There are some very valuable posters here, rzt, Dancc and D.M.N. to name just three. I do enjoy the banter here, I know sometimes there are personality clashes and feelings get hurt.

Many of us have a channel allegiance and for different reasons. I am a huge BBC1/2 fan, I watch ITV1/C4/C5 less often, also the fact that BBC are license fee funded - I do want them to come out on top with quality programmes. Commercial channels exist almost entirely to make a shareholder profit, quality doesn't really come into it at the board meeting.

I hope things are back to normal on Thursday, whatever normal is around here of course. I don't care if people are pro channels 1 2 3 4 5 or even a Sky channel - this is the Ratings Thread, nothing more or less.

I cant think of anything, I cant work out how it still over 2 million.

The Royal Bodyguard at least sounds like something that has viewers.


that did better than I thought.


again how is it that hasnt fallen below 2 million yet?

Pleased to see a good rating for Junior Doctors. C4 will be pleased with 15 Kids and Counting. Not a massive boost for the BBC 3 repeat, given that EE was low on BBC 1.


that is a wise move


lets hope this one isnt over hyped like Red or Black? was


he used to make some awful ITV related posts on the Broadcast forum, best ignored IMO.

I take a day away form the internet and the thread doubles in length.

3 ratings I am very interested in for tomorrow (or this morning), is the eviction, The NTA's and Sun Sex and Suspicious Parents. My predictions

CBB 9PM- 2.4m
CBB 11pm- 1.6m
NTA- 6m
Sun Sex- 890k