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Coronation Street did very well with two very strong shares; again, considering the soap sandwich offering from Coronation Street, EastEnders looks slightly on the low side. Emmerdale performed reasonably well and the bad weather obviously helped Hollyoaks to get above 1m on a Friday for the first time in a while. Home and Away looks low but Neighbours is pretty consistent.
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Do non-ESPN subsribers / forum geeks though even know ESPN is free for the weekend?
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I predicted 4.9m but I suspect it'll rate between 5.7m and 6m. Six Nations usually does excellent business for BBC1.
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Do non-ESPN subsribers / forum geeks though even know ESPN is free for the weekend?
No X-Games this time around, so im giving it a pass. |
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Rugger isn't such a big deal as the national football team, but this match does get 6 million. I reckon TV Burp will get about 5 million and TMO around 4.5. Casualty should get about 5.8. Again ITV1 must be kicking their shins that they didn't get the 6 Nations rights. However, this is traditionally a BBC thing and something they do well.
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Friday 3rd February - Soap Overnights
Channel 5 18:00- Home and Away: 699k (3.6%) Friday 4th February 2011: 948k (4.7%) Friday 5th February 2010: 1.03m (5.3%)
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The late-2010 and early-2011 series of L&O both had pretty strong Corrie lead-ins but rated worse. I think this series is rating better because it's facing relatively young-skewing opposition. The main bulk of L&O's audience are aged over 55 (about 65-70% of its audience) and so whenever it faces old-skewing BBC1 opposition in raw numbers, it tends to fall. Hustle has about 1.8m viewers aged over 55, which is relatively low for a BBC1 drama, whereas Waking The Dead was getting c3m in that demo last year which knocked down L&O hard. Even stuff like George Gently repeats and Ocean Giants (both 2.5m) and Have I Got News For You (2.0-2.5m) all had higher 55+ audiences than Hustle when facing Law & Order UK which dented its figures. Basically I think the current series is sweeping up more of the 55+ year olds who don't have many alternatives to watch at the moment. If L&O were on Friday nights as it is, but facing older-skewing opposition even if they were shows with lower overall ratings than Hustle (but had more 55+ year olds), I reckon L&O would be rating lower than it is at the moment. It's not so much the Friday slot which has boosted it (though admittedly the Corrie lead-in would've helped it compared to the one Sunday series it had), I don't think, but more to do with the type of competition it's facing.
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Did anyone get the American Idol rating for ITV2 on Thursday or Noel Fielding rating on E4 same evening? I noticed C4 Sales was offline on Friday evening and today says - 'Service unavailable'.
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I'm not a fan of Rugby, but I can see it doing very well, terrible weather, not much competition, I reckon it'll be an average of 7m, with an 8.4 peak, obviously just for the Calcutta match.
ITV1 is in a real hole on Saturdays now. TV Burp is ending and none of their current shows have good ratings. |
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Did see on BARB website that Charles and Diana's wedding got 21.7m aggregated in 1981, less than 26.0m aggregated for William and Kate's wedding ceremony in 2011. More people watched the premiere of Jaws in 1981 than the Royal Wedding..
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I think the 18 million for the Snooker was a record audience for after midnight(I have a vague memory of it getting some kind of award), not an average for the entire broadcast. Astonishing figure, but the Taylor Davis final was one of the great tv moments and represented the pinnacle of Snooker interest. I can still remember staying up to watch very clearly-despite having to be up at nothing o'clock for work the next day.
I can't imagine anything post midnight has ever got that number. Although I do recall an 11.15pm Friday night terrestrial premiere of The Terminator on BBC1 getting a rather astonishing 13m audience in the late 80s/1990ish. That must have gone on till 1am. |
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I'm guessing the Superbowl being such a guaranteed ratings puller makes it more viable for broadcasters to split three ways, but have any networks attempted to grab it exclusively. Going to be a pricey year for NBC with this and the Olympics.
But just for the sake of reference the new NFL television deal which starts in 2014 and covers NBC, CBS, Fox and ESPN is worth just shy of $40 billion over 8 years or a little under $5 billion per year. Any broadcaster that wanted exclusive rights to everything would probably be looking at paying double that (probably more) because presumably everybody else would bid them up. I'm not sure anyone has that kind of money to play with. In fact there's an argument to be made that the broadcast networks at least are potentially losing money on the existing NFL deals. The Super Bowl itself though is essentially a license to print money for the broadcast networks. It'll be interesting to see just how much longer the NFL refuses to let ESPN air it (currently they aren't allowed because they're a cable network). When ESPN is allowed to broadcast the Super Bowl is when the broadcast/cable divide has officially closed. Quote:
Also although I suspect there is a risk of overrun it's surprising that although they give in airing anything of note against it, the other networks don't put more effort into capturing the post-game audience at 10pm. I know ABC did a Wipeout special a few years ago but generally speaking it's repeats in the slots, gifting it to the Superbowl broadcaster.
Its about advertising dollars. On Sunday night nobody will have any interest in buying time on ABC, CBS or Fox (or anywhere else for that matter) so it makes no financial sense for any of the other networks to even try and air anything opposite the Super Bowl (or even the post-Super Bowl slot which the vast majority of the time will be dominated by overrun anyway). Over the years there have been fits and starts on trying to air an 'alternative' half time show (I think that's what ABC did with Wipeout) but for the most part it hasn't worked and advertisers haven't really bitten on it.
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I'm guessing the Superbowl being such a guaranteed ratings puller makes it more viable for broadcasters to split three ways, but have any networks attempted to grab it exclusively. Going to be a pricey year for NBC with this and the Olympics.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_on_...sion_contracts The rights went through an interesting decade with Fox muscling onto the scene - squeezing CBS out of the game, who in turn squeezed NBC out of the game. With Disney's decision to let ESPN take on all of their divisions sports portfolio from ABC, it seems like a happy equilibrium has been reached on all sides now, with everything tied down till 2021. Didn't stop the NFL extracting sizeable increases from the latest deals, mind you. |
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Hmm. Not liking this trend one bit. That's two days in a row now where Home and Away has rated below the C5 average share of around 4%. You don't expect that from one of their flagship shows. For comparison, the same day 1/2 years ago:
Friday 4th February 2011: 948k (4.7%) Friday 5th February 2010: 1.03m (5.3%) ![]() |
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As has been pointed out, the quality has fallen recently and the sad thing is Family Affairs rated better and that was cancelled for only getting a million viewers.
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As has been pointed out, the quality has fallen recently and the sad thing is Family Affairs rated better and that was cancelled for only getting a million viewers.
In any case a homegrown soap is a whole different ball game to an import. Family Affairs never really caught on in a big way and it was expensive to make. Without Hollyoaks' enviable demos, it was always going to be toast with those ratings. |
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Family Affairs did not have a first look showing on a digital channel watched by over half a million a night. No doubt if they axed the first look episode on 5*, Home and Away would be bringing in 1m+ a night for its main 6pm showing.
In any case a homegrown soap is a whole different ball game to an import. Family Affairs never really caught on in a big way and it was expensive to make. Without Hollyoaks' enviable demos, it was always going to be toast with those ratings. However, its maybe people are getting tired of Home and Away as it has been on for 23 years now and the audience is more likely to be over 40 than the teens that made up the bulk of its following in the glory days.. |
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Did anyone get the American Idol rating for ITV2 on Thursday or Noel Fielding rating on E4 same evening? I noticed C4 Sales was offline on Friday evening and today says - 'Service unavailable'.
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As things stand the Super Bowl isn't sold as a separate event but is packaged as part of the existing NFL television licenses. For a broadcaster to qualify to air the Super Bowl they have to nationally broadcast regular NFL games which means any network that wanted exclusive rights would have to buy Sunday Night Football, Monday Night Football plus the Sunday afternoon games. And I think I'm right in saying that under the current licensing deal no single network would be able to own both sets of Sunday games that are auctioned off because there are certain rules about what you have to show that they wouldn't be able to meet (the NFL licensing agreements are very complicated).
But just for the sake of reference the new NFL television deal which starts in 2014 and covers NBC, CBS, Fox and ESPN is worth just shy of $40 billion over 8 years or a little under $5 billion per year. Any broadcaster that wanted exclusive rights to everything would probably be looking at paying double that (probably more) because presumably everybody else would bid them up. I'm not sure anyone has that kind of money to play with. In fact there's an argument to be made that the broadcast networks at least are potentially losing money on the existing NFL deals. The Super Bowl itself though is essentially a license to print money for the broadcast networks. It'll be interesting to see just how much longer the NFL refuses to let ESPN air it (currently they aren't allowed because they're a cable network). When ESPN is allowed to broadcast the Super Bowl is when the broadcast/cable divide has officially closed. Its about advertising dollars. On Sunday night nobody will have any interest in buying time on ABC, CBS or Fox (or anywhere else for that matter) so it makes no financial sense for any of the other networks to even try and air anything opposite the Super Bowl (or even the post-Super Bowl slot which the vast majority of the time will be dominated by overrun anyway). Over the years there have been fits and starts on trying to air an 'alternative' half time show (I think that's what ABC did with Wipeout) but for the most part it hasn't worked and advertisers haven't really bitten on it. Quote:
Don't think that's ever been a realistic prospect. It's just too ludicrously expensive. A good summary of the contracts is here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_on_...sion_contracts The rights went through an interesting decade with Fox muscling onto the scene - squeezing CBS out of the game, who in turn squeezed NBC out of the game. With Disney's decision to let ESPN take on all of their divisions sports portfolio from ABC, it seems like a happy equilibrium has been reached on all sides now, with everything tied down till 2021. Didn't stop the NFL extracting sizeable increases from the latest deals, mind you. Quote:
Family Affairs did not have a first look showing on a digital channel watched by over half a million a night. No doubt if they axed the first look episode on 5*, Home and Away would be bringing in 1m+ a night for its main 6pm showing.
In any case a homegrown soap is a whole different ball game to an import. Family Affairs never really caught on in a big way and it was expensive to make. Without Hollyoaks' enviable demos, it was always going to be toast with those ratings. Also just a thought but wonder how Home and Away and Neighbours might fair if they swapped their slots in the evening on C5. |
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I don't know how much Channel 5 pay for Home and Away, but Neighbours last contract was too much for BBC One. Basically Channel 5, if they pulled the plug, might have to pay the Aussies a fair whack in compensation. Yet if the show starts to tank, and ratings have fallen by 30 pc recently, Des won't want to spend on an ailing show that is losing money.
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Anyone want to try to guess any 'snow inflated predictions' for the morning assuming there are ~25 to 27m watching TV tonight? I'll go for:
BBC One 16:30 - Six Nations Rugby: 6.6m (34.0%) 18:55 - BBC News: 4.1m (17.1%) 19:15 - The Magicians: 4.9m (19.4%) 20:30 - Lottery: 5.5m (21.0%) 20:40 - Casualty: 6.3m (25.0%) 21:30 - Mrs Brown's Boys: 5.0m (20.0%) ITV1 18:15 - You've Been Framed!: 3.9m (17.0%) 19:15 - Harry Hill's TV Burp: 5.7m (22.8%) 19:45 - Take Me Out: 5.9m (23.0%) 21:00 - The Jonathan Ross Show: 4.2m (17.0%) 22:00 - The Talent Show Story: 2.3m (10.0%) +1 approx 0.2m to 0.4m added onto all the above for ITV1. As I said earlier, I think ITV will be the main beneficiary, because their shows go towards the younger skewing audience who are normally out (myself excluded ) on Saturday nights.But in reality I expect BBC One and ITV1 to have a big boost tonight. |
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NFL rates well hence why the broadcast network pay top dollar for the rights. CBS was hit badly in the 90s when they lost the NFC Championships to FOX, they acquired AFC rights in 1998 and I imagine they'll fight tooth and nail to keep those rights.
Wonder who has the best NFL rights package, the new CBS NFL contract allows to air some NFC games and they have teams such as the New England Patriots who are big ratings pullers. |
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I missed the start of TV Burp due to looking at the snow out of my study window, before realising what time it was.
I +1ed the start of the show, so I didnt miss anything. |
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I missed the start of TV Burp due to looking at the snow out of my study window, before realising what time it was.
I +1ed the start of the snow, so I didnt miss anything. |
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Anyone want to try to guess any 'snow inflated predictions' for the morning assuming there are ~25 to 27m watching TV tonight? I'll go for:
19:15 - The Magicians: 4.9m (19.4%) 21:30 - Mrs Brown's Boys: 5.0m (20.0%) 19:45 - Take Me Out: 5.9m (23.0%) |
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There is more snow to come next week as well by the looks of it. The cold air clings on to the far east of the UK and eventually we get a renewed push right across the country with fresh snowfalls.
Good news for the broadcasters. Although, there are other indoor distractions of course like video gaming, films and books so massively inflated TV audiences are not guaranteed. |
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I think Mrs Brown's Boys will get 6.7m
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BBC One
18:55 - BBC News: 4.8 19:15 - The Magicians: 5.0 20:30 - Lottery: 5.8 20:40 - Casualty: 6.1 21:30 - Mrs Brown's Boys: 6.1 ITV1 18:15 - You've Been Framed!:4.2 19:15 - Harry Hill's TV Burp: 6.1 19:45 - Take Me Out: 6.3 21:00 - The Jonathan Ross Show: 4.5 22:00 - The Talent Show Story: 2.0 My predictions |
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