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Old 26-02-2012, 12:18
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Ratings over recent years indicate to me that the GBP's viewing habits appear to be changing. Drama, talent shows and scripted reality seem to be more popular now. In fact I don't know any under 30s who watch the soaps.

The challenge for the soaps is to stay relevant and 'real' while maintaining consistent quality. Apart from the die-hards, people won't watch the soaps regardless.

All of the above is just my opinion.
I'm 17 and although I still watch EastEnders, a lot of my friends have given up on it and I can't say I blame them. Hollyoaks is still pretty popular with people I know and Corrie to a lesser extent. On my facebook for example, EastEnders used to be talked about all the time whereas now it's only really mentioned if it's a big episode.
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Old 26-02-2012, 12:47
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Five will want their moneys worth and they repeat all their Shows like hell (well are any of their programes actually made by five?)

it doesn't matter anyway because the repeat showings doesnt even add to much anyway.Which is why they are not always reported.

Neighbours NEVER hardly ever makes the top 10 most watched programes on fiver/5* or whatever they call it these days. Home & Away pretty much takes most of the top 10

Official Figures

5* (was FIVER)
w/e 12 Feb 2012
000's
1 HOME AND AWAY (FRI 1829) 604
2 HOME AND AWAY (THU 1829) 599
3 HOME AND AWAY (WED 1829) 559
4 HOME AND AWAY (MON 1835) 540
5 HOME AND AWAY (TUE 1829) 537
6 POLICE INTERCEPTORS (SUN 2100) 234
7 NEIGHBOURS (FRI 1900) 227
8 FILM:ERIN BROCKOVICH (FRI 2206) 200
9 NEIGHBOURS (THU 1900) 196
10 POLICE INTERCEPTORS (SAT 2201) 196

5* +1 (was FIVER +1)
w/e 12 Feb 2012
000's
1 EXTREME FISHING WITH ROBSON GREEN (TUE 2100) 38
2 FILM:ERIN BROCKOVICH (FRI 2306) 32
3 NEIGHBOURS (WED 2000) 32
4 FILM: ALONG CAME POLLY (2004) (MON 2110) 27
5 POLICE INTERCEPTORS (SAT 2400) 24
6 POLICE INTERCEPTORS (SUN 2200) 24
7 THE LYING GAME (MON 2200) 24
8 HOME AND AWAY (WED 1929) 23
9 THE MENTALIST (THU 2202) 23
10 EXTREME FISHING WITH ROBSON GREEN (SUN 1901) 22

Yeah but Home and Away only just scrapes into Channel 5's top 30
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Old 27-02-2012, 00:23
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However, you are happy to quote Eastenders' BBC3 repeat figures and the omnibus editions when it suits you ay, in my opinion!

In my opinion, EastEnders only gets what it does due to the channel it appears on, it's time slot and lack of credible competition.
Thats because EastEnders BBC3 repeat pulls in 800,00 on a standard episode most of the time which is why DS also mention it in their report
The BBC omnibus pulls in over a million most weeks which is more than any of the other soap omnibuses so all in all EastEnders gets more reach than anyother tv soap which is also what the BBC have stated anumber of times

EastEnders rates more on their BBC3 repeat and sunday omnibus than any of the other soaps and quite often you see the BBC3 repeat as the most watched multi channel of the day....worth noting which programe still holds the most watched Digital TV screening ever!


...and what happens when EastEnders clashes with a credible alternative? It drops to 5.5 million. They are the real figures.
Cough*Downton Abbey*Cough EastEnders was able to pull in 9.9million against DA and beating it in the over night figures

When soap clashes with soap then the viewers are split and of course the soap starting HALF HOUR later is going to be dented much more.

Come back on Friday 23rd March and tell me why EastEnders thrashes Emmerdale on Thursday 22nd March because

1.EastEnders has a big Hour-Long Episode
2.EastEnders gets 30mins head start over Emmerdale
which is what happend when Emmerdale had the hour-long last week.

Last time EastEnders had the head-start over Emmerdale it was reduced to 4 million whille EastEnders had over 9 and that was late 2011
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Old 27-02-2012, 00:27
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...and what happens when EastEnders clashes with a credible alternative? It drops to 5.5 million. They are the real figures.
Over nights are NOT the real figures they are just the over nights and it's the Officials that matter really
that 5.5m will turn into 7 million (or there abouts) once recordings are taken into account.

When you hear things like 'X factor was the number 1 show of 2011' thats based on the official rating and not over nights

The overnights are just figures with Half the info

He isn't "anti the BBC" any more than I am. He was bigging up 'Call The Midwife' the other week.

Is your "...5 million..." prediction during the summer for Eastenders a 'face saving' exercise? If it was top quality all the time and 'must-see', people would tune in regardless...right?
...no it will get around 5 million
as it along with most of the BBC1 programes will be moved to BBC2 and like last time EastEnders will get around 5.3m

The Olympics this year will be MASSIVE because simply they are in the UK and of course with the Euro & Wimbledon all the soaps will be down

Chances are all of the Big 3 soaps will have bigger storylines before and after the sporting events and have more filler storylines for the summer

He is anti BBC...on twitter he's always moaning about BBC programes and even in the sunday mirror once again today BBC this BBC that
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Old 27-02-2012, 00:43
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Ratings over recent years indicate to me that the GBP's viewing habits appear to be changing. Drama, talent shows and scripted reality seem to be more popular now. In fact I don't know any under 30s who watch the soaps.
The challenge for the soaps is to stay relevant, 'realistic' and 'real' while maintaining consistent quality. Apart from the die-hards, people won't watch the soaps regardless.

All of the above is just my opinion.
Alot of people on DS are under 30 and watch the soaps.
Pop over to the TV ratings thread and ask for the Demos
You will see that EastEnders is mostly watched by the 18-30 age range.
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Old 27-02-2012, 00:47
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Yeah but Home and Away only just scrapes into Channel 5's top 30
Why would it get in the top 30 for C5 when C5 doesn't air the episode first? It's a repeat...That's like saying BBC3 EastEnders should rate higher than the BBC1 episode.

Hollyoaks is in the same position as Home and Away...it airs its premier episode on E4 and C4 episodes rarely make it in to the top 30.
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Old 27-02-2012, 00:50
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Why would it get in the top 30 for C5 when C5 doesn't air the episode first? It's a repeat...That's like saying BBC3 EastEnders should rate higher than the BBC1 episode.

Hollyoaks is in the same position as Home and Away...it airs its premier episode on E4 and C4 episodes rarely make it in to the top 30.
Exactly.
Chances are if E4/5* stopped the first look showings
the actual main Ch4/Five figures would be higher. I've no idea why they even bother with 'First Looks' actually
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Old 27-02-2012, 01:13
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200,000 for the 5* showing is pretty dame good wouldn't you say? I didn't realise it was that high, to be fair.

I don't know what Channel Five's expectations are, but it is worth remembering that Channel Five is the UK's fifth terrestrial channel.
you do know that 200,000 rating for 5* is the OFFICIAL and not the over night rating don't you?
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Old 27-02-2012, 01:19
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Ratings over recent years indicate to me that the GBP's viewing habits appear to be changing. Drama, talent shows and scripted reality seem to be more popular now. In fact I don't know any under 30s who watch the soaps.

The challenge for the soaps is to stay relevant, 'realistic' and 'real' while maintaining consistent quality. Apart from the die-hards, people won't watch the soaps regardless.

All of the above is just my opinion.
What total rubbish

If your going to make these statements please get the facts right because everything you have posted in here is just so wrong

Talent Shows:

BGT,X Factor and Strictly are the only shows that are actually doing well.

Dancing on Ice has fallen to all-time lows of 5 million viewers lately

Dramas:

Soaps come under Drama and are still among the most watched programes on TV
ONLY Call the midwife & Downton Are able to rate higher

Scripted Reality shows:

Liked TOWIE? which doesn't even rate over 2 million viewers
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Old 27-02-2012, 01:19
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Why would it get in the top 30 for C5 when C5 doesn't air the episode first? It's a repeat...That's like saying BBC3 EastEnders should rate higher than the BBC1 episode.

Hollyoaks is in the same position as Home and Away...it airs its premier episode on E4 and C4 episodes rarely make it in to the top 30.
Five, Four, ITV and the BBC are going to use their more popular programming to try to attract viewers to their 'minority' channels aren't they. All want their monies worth don't they.
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Old 27-02-2012, 01:20
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What total rubbish

If your going to make these statements please get the facts right because everything you have posted in here is just so wrong

Talent Shows:

BGT,X Factor and Strictly are the only shows that are actually doing well.

Dancing on Ice has fallen to all-time lows of 5 million viewers lately

Dramas:

Soaps come under Drama and are still among the most watched programes on TV
ONLY Call the midwife & Downton Are able to rate higher

Scripted Reality shows:

Liked TOWIE? which doesn't even rate over 2 million viewers
What are you worried about/frightened of?

This was the Top 10 from 2011...according to the BBC.

TOP 10 PROGRAMMES OF 2011

1. The Royal Wedding - 13.59m (29 Apr, BBC One)

2. The X Factor Results - 13.46m (11 Dec, ITV1)

3. Strictly Come Dancing Final - 13.34m (17 Dec, BBC One)

4. The X Factor - 12.92m (2 Oct, ITV1)

5. Britain's Got Talent Final Result - 12.63m (4 Jun, ITV1)

6. Coronation Street 12.56m (14 Feb ITV1)

7. I'm A Celebrity... - 12.47m (13 Nov, ITV1)

8. Britain's Got Talent Final - 12.22 (4 Jun, ITV1)

9. Downton Abbey - 12.15m (11 Nov, ITV1)

10. EastEnders - 11.42m (3 Jan, BBC One)

Call The Midwife has been a massive hit for BBC1 this year. Why? It is a quality drama.
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Old 27-02-2012, 01:23
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What are you worried about/frightened of?
Nothing what-so-ever
Im one of those people that doesn't worry about anything in life but what really annoys me is when people make silly statements and when they get pulled up on them they can't even be bothered to reply properly

Thing is you state these things as facts when they are not
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Old 27-02-2012, 01:29
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What are you worried about/frightened of?

This was the Top 10 from 2011...according to the BBC.

TOP 10 PROGRAMMES OF 2011

1. The Royal Wedding - 13.59m (29 Apr, BBC One)

2. The X Factor Results - 13.46m (11 Dec, ITV1)

3. Strictly Come Dancing Final - 13.34m (17 Dec, BBC One)

4. The X Factor - 12.92m (2 Oct, ITV1)

5. Britain's Got Talent Final Result - 12.63m (4 Jun, ITV1)

6. Coronation Street 12.56m (14 Feb ITV1)

7. I'm A Celebrity... - 12.47m (13 Nov, ITV1)

8. Britain's Got Talent Final - 12.22 (4 Jun, ITV1)

9. Downton Abbey - 12.15m (11 Nov, ITV1)

10. EastEnders - 11.42m (3 Jan, BBC One)

Call The Midwife has been a massive hit for BBC1 this year. Why? It is a quality drama.
You do know those are OFFICIAL figures and not Over nights (the real one's too you don't you)

Whats the top 10 of 2012 so far?

Corrie & EastEnders take the top 2

Call the midwife is a hit because people like to see how
things were years ago...

Just like HeartBeat in it's hey day pulled in 17 million viewers
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Old 27-02-2012, 01:34
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Thats because EastEnders BBC3 repeat pulls in 800,00 on a standard episode most of the time which is why DS also mention it in their report
The BBC omnibus pulls in over a million most weeks which is more than any of the other soap omnibuses so all in all EastEnders gets more reach than anyother tv soap which is also what the BBC have stated anumber of times

EastEnders rates more on their BBC3 repeat and sunday omnibus than any of the other soaps and quite often you see the BBC3 repeat as the most watched multi channel of the day....worth noting which programe still holds the most watched Digital TV screening ever!


Cough*Downton Abbey*Cough EastEnders was able to pull in 9.9million against DA and beating it in the over night figures

When soap clashes with soap then the viewers are split and of course the soap starting HALF HOUR later is going to be dented much more.

Come back on Friday 23rd March and tell me why EastEnders thrashes Emmerdale on Thursday 22nd March because

1.EastEnders has a big Hour-Long Episode
2.EastEnders gets 30mins head start over Emmerdale
which is what happend when Emmerdale had the hour-long last week.

Last time EastEnders had the head-start over Emmerdale it was reduced to 4 million whille EastEnders had over 9 and that was late 2011
This from the BBC website. It refers to Christmas Day, 2011.

"...Downton's audience went up from 8.1m to 11.59m - a remarkable boost, which shows just how far new technology is changing the way people watch TV...Downton Abbey was the most watched show on Christmas Day 2011 after final figures were released...
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Old 27-02-2012, 01:35
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This from the BBC website. It refers to Christmas Day, 2011.

"...Downton's audience went up from 8.1m to 11.59m - a remarkable boost, which shows just how far new technology is changing the way people watch TV...Downton Abbey was the most watched show on Christmas Day 2011 after final figures were released...
Yet you said how Overnigths are the REAL figures

That official figure of DA wasn't that far ahead of EastEnders either

EDIT-Downton was most watched over all but EastEnders was most watched on the day
9:00pm on xmas day more people were watching EastEnders but then i and others stated this Because not only is watching Enders on xmas day tradition for many but to record DA and fast forward the adverts were what many people decided todo

EDIT-When EastEnders & Downton went head to head EastEnders come out on top it was only when Recordings were taken into account DA was 300,000 viewers ahead
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Old 27-02-2012, 01:52
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You do know those are OFFICIAL figures and not Over nights (the real one's too you don't you)

Whats the top 10 of 2012 so far?

Corrie & EastEnders take the top 2

Call the midwife is a hit because people like to see how
things were years ago...

Just like HeartBeat in it's hey day pulled in 17 million viewers
What are you trying to spin now? You were referring to 2011. I was responding.

In my opinion and the opinion of others it seems, you appear to use any excuse going to explain/justify/brush off a 'poor' Eastenders performance. Could it just be that people are switching off because it is no longer the quality show it was back in the day? If Eastenders was top quality all the time, people would watch it regardless, in my view.
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Old 27-02-2012, 01:56
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What are you trying to spin now? You were referring to 2011. I was responding.

In my opinion and the opinion of others it seems, you appear to use any excuse going to explain/justify/brush off a 'poor' Eastenders performance. Could it just be that people are switching off because it is no longer the quality show it was back in the day? If Eastenders was top quality all the time, people would watch it regardless, in my view.
Look....

you have posted OFFICIAL figures for xmas day 2011 and yet when i mentioned a few posts back about EastEnders getting over 9million and pretty much on par with Corrie's official ratings you said how Over nights are the Real figures

Fact is EastEnders is doing very well and as you will see if you look at the OFFICIAL ratings (like the 2011 ones you posted) you will see since January most Eastenders figures are over 9million with some over 10million

No spin what-so-ever just you trying to make a point
but changing your tune as per usual:yawn:

Seeing as EastEnders takes 4 of the top 5 most watched BBC programes of the week and is pretty much on par with Corrie in officials and is UP in 2009 show's there's not problem with the shows ratings.

Of course and many have said this to you before
you make statements and when proved wrong you always pull out the 'Spin' line
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Old 27-02-2012, 02:00
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Thing is Miles...

I say something and it stands
you say something but change your tune a couple of posts down so which is more important to you

Official ratings or Overnights?
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Old 27-02-2012, 02:06
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Yet you said how Overnigths are the REAL figures

That official figure of DA wasn't that far ahead of EastEnders either

EDIT-Downton was most watched over all but EastEnders was most watched on the day
9:00pm on xmas day more people were watching EastEnders but then i and others stated this Because not only is watching Enders on xmas day tradition for many but to record DA and fast forward the adverts were what many people decided todo

EDIT-When EastEnders & Downton went head to head EastEnders come out on top it was only when Recordings were taken into account DA was 300,000 viewers ahead
I can't believe the spin I am reading. It doesn't matter when people watch/how they watch. It is 2012. In my opinion, you totally talk as it fits...so long as, somehow or other, Eastenders can come out on top.

Viewers viewing habits are changing, as are their tastes in telly shows. My opinion is supported by the ratings figures. Reality tv/tv talent shows and dramas are now more popular than the soaps. It doesn't matter to me. Does it really matter to you?
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Old 27-02-2012, 02:13
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I can't believe the spin I am reading. It doesn't matter when people watch/how they watch. It is 2012. In my opinion, you totally talk as it fits...so long as, somehow or other, Eastenders can come out on top.

Viewers viewing habits are changing, as are their tastes in telly shows. My opinion is supported by the ratings figures. Reality tv/tv talent shows and dramas are now more popular than the soaps. It doesn't matter to me. Does it really matter to you?
Ok then so.....Lets add the BBC3 figure & Omnibus to the main showing of EastEnders and watch it become the most watched TV programe by quite some

You have changed your tune so many times in just a few posts

A few posts back it was the over night showing that mattered and now it's the over all figure

There was No spin in my post just fact...EastEnders was most watched on the day but DA did pull ahead with recordings taken into account and it was only 300,000 ahead of EastEnders

EastEnders rating only 300k lower than a 'credible' alternative isn't bad er

I would love to argue all night but some of us have to get up for work
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Old 27-02-2012, 14:02
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Here are the official ratings for W/E 19/2/12. I have only been able to incorporate the HD figures for Coronation Street as Emmerdale don't reach the Top 10.

Coronation Street 13-Feb 10.90 m
Coronation Street 13-Feb 10.71 m
Coronation Street 17-Feb 9.62 m
EastEnders 13-Feb 9.53 m
Coronation Street 17-Feb 9.47 m
EastEnders 14-Feb 9.24 m
Coronation Street 19-Feb 9.02 m
EastEnders 17-Feb 8.96 m
Emmerdale 13-Feb 8.13 m
Emmerdale 14-Feb 7.88 m
Emmerdale 17-Feb 7.72 m
Emmerdale 15-Feb 7.69 m
Emmerdale 16-Feb 7.35 m
EastEnders 16-Feb 6.49 m
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Old 28-02-2012, 11:16
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Coronation Street - 9.21m (39.9%) & 9.73m (40.2%)
EastEnders - 8.32m (33.9%)
Emmerdale - 7.77 (35.2%)
Doctors - 1.81m (23.6%)
Neighbours - 738k (9.6%) & 1.08m (6.4%)
Hollyoaks - 1.04m (5.1%)
Home and Away - 841k (4.3%)
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Old 28-02-2012, 11:22
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^Thanks for those, Looks like Emmerdale and Eastenders are closest in Ratings rather than Eastenders and Corrie being close like it used to be. Close to 10 million in the second episode there for Corrie.
Well done to Corrie. =)
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Old 28-02-2012, 11:24
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^Thanks for those, Looks like Emmerdale and Eastenders are closest in Ratings rather than Eastenders and Corrie being close like it used to be. Close to 10 million in the second episode there for Corrie.
Well done to Corrie. =)
I don't know if thats good for Emmerdale or just very bad for EastEnders though.

The share for EastEnders however *is* shocking.
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Old 28-02-2012, 11:42
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Again quite poor for EE and not a very good share. But there is nothing exciting happening in the show at the moment. Hopefully with Heather's murder coming up the ratings will improve.
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