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There is the answer. EastEnders spent too long being below par. It shredded viewers over a lengthy period and is now having a hard time in winning them back.
. That's the thing with quality and lack off. It's not an overnight thing. Quality needs to be consistently good over a period of time for ratings to increase bit by bit. Likwise, quality needs to be consistently bad for ratings to decrease over time. Even if I can agree that this year is stronger than last year, if it's still below average in terms of quality, viewers will turn off. People need to be entertained and then they'll continue to watch. If they're not, they'll turn off. EastEnders has been consistently below par two and a half years now. I'm not at all surprised to see this reflected in the ratings. EE does have a huge moutain to climb however and like I said, there is no overnight quick fix. It's going to take time winning viewers back. My guess is 2014 before the show see's a noticable turn around. Lorraine does have her work cut out. |
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And nail on head.
That's the thing with quality and lack off. It's not an overnight thing. Quality needs to be consistently good over a period of time for ratings to increase bit by bit. Likwise, quality needs to be consistently bad for ratings to decrease over time. Even if I can agree that this year is stronger than last year, if it's still below average in terms of quality, viewers will turn off. People need to be entertained and then they'll continue to watch. If they're not, they'll turn off. EastEnders has been consistently below par two and a half years now. I'm not at all surprised to see this reflected in the ratings. EE does have a huge moutain to climb however and like I said, there is no overnight quick fix. It's going to take time winning viewers back. My guess is 2014 before the show see's a noticable turn around. Lorraine does have her work cut out. |
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Well Lorraine's interview sounded really good I think 2013 will be a really good year for Eastenders we will have Ava and her son Dexter and Janine will be back in March
I remember BK spouting alot of crap but in the end, his words meant nothing. I genuinely wish her the best but ANY producer will have a uphill struggling getting the show back to the quality it should be, and to see that reflected in the ratings. Winning old viewers back, gaining new ones will not happen overnight. It's a process. EE needs alot of work. It needs to be seen to be consistently improving. This is why I say 2014. Not saying next year will be crap but it's guesswork on my part that it will take 2 years to see that significant change. |
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For me seeing is believing.
I remember BK spouting alot of crap but in the end, his words meant nothing. I genuinely wish her the best but ANY producer will have a uphill struggling getting the show back to the quality it should be, and to see that reflected in the ratings. Winning old viewers back, gaining new ones will not happen overnight. It's a process. EE needs alot of work. It needs to be seen to be consistently improving. This is why I say 2014. Not saying next year will be crap but it's guesswork on my part that it will take 2 years to see that significant change. |
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Well we can't make a judgement about Christmas ratings for Eastenders Im sure lots of Eatenders fans will tune in to see Derek die and to see what Max's secret is
Anyway I'm not suggesting that people won't tune in. EastEnders has always faired well on xmas day, even during its weakest peiods so I do expect it to be a decent draw for the BBC. I'm just not confident that it will do aswell as previous years (it may well be its lowers figure yet). We'll see. Not really bothered either way. I never was one to obsess over ratings. It's just an observation on my part based on current ratings for the time of year coupled with the current quality. What ever it gets, I hope it drasitcally improves. |
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Well I'll watch because I always watch EE on xmas every year. Plus my family are fans of the show so there is no avoiding it for me on that day.
Anyway I'm not suggesting that people won't tune in. EastEnders has always faired well on xmas day, even during its weakest peiods so I do expect it to be a decent draw for the BBC. I'm just not confident that it will do aswell as previous years (it may well be its lowers figure yet). We'll see. Not really bothered either way. I never was one to obsess over ratings. It's just an observation on my part based on current ratings for the time of year coupled with the current quality. What ever it gets, I hope it drasitcally improves. |
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We'll have to agree to disagree I'm afraid. The next few weeks don't sound good to me at all.
Even if EE does win the xmas ratings - it still needs alot of work. One day of 'good' ratings doesn't reflect the quality of the show. Like you said 2006 xmas won the ratings that year. That didn't mean that show was in a good place was it? Pauline's death was one of EE's weakest xmas episodes EVER IMO. Don't give a fig what number it got. :sleep: Anyway I'm hitting the sac now. Nice talking to you.
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We'll have to agree to disagree I'm afraid. The next few weeks don't sound good to me at all.
Even if EE does win the xmas ratings - it still needs alot of work. One day of 'good' ratings doesn't reflect the quality of the show. Like you said 2006 xmas won the ratings that year. That didn't mean that show was in a good place was it? Pauline's death was one of EE's weakest xmas episodes EVER IMO. Don't give a fig what number it got. :sleep: Anyway I'm hitting the sac now. Nice talking to you. ![]() |
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Well don't judge them until you have seen them
I'm not saying they will be crap but given that I don't enjoy the current storylines, I doubt I'll very much like what's coming up. It's not a judgement. It's a prediction. If you don't like a story, loath it even, what are the chances that you are going to enjoy it's climax? If I'm pleasently surprised, fair enough. I somehow doubt it. |
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Who's judging?
I'm not saying they will be crap but given that I don't enjoy the current storylines, I doubt I'll very much like what's coming up. It's not a judgement. It's a prediction. If you don't like a story, loath it even, what are the chances that you are going to enjoy it's climax? If I'm pleasently surprised, fair enough. I somehow doubt it. |
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Well the Phil, Lola, Sharon and Jay stuff sounds good next week and Tanya going for a cancer scan sounds good and Abi comforting Lauren on Tuesday sounds really good
Horses for courses though.
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None of that interests me.
Horses for courses though. ![]() |
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and EastEnders gets 6.8 million for last nights episode!
Has that ever happened at the end of November? Genuine question. What's worse is that it was thrashed by Corrie, by two million and Emmerdale - the third rate soap - beat it. ![]() There is clearly a problem. These kinds of figures you expect in Summer. |
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and EastEnders gets 6.8 million for last nights episode!
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2011 was a weak year for EE but this current dross (Lauren/Joey and Who's the Shagger?) is alot worse. At least we had the Yusef story playing out last year. A bit panto but dark and half interesting. Where as nothing positive can be said about the central stories playing out currently.
This current stuff is crap. If I was Lorraine Newman, I'd be very worried right now. To get 7.1 million (and beaten by Emmerdale - the third rate soap) at the end of November, and it's absolutely freezing, is a poor draw for the show. It really is. This may well be the first xmas where EE does not win in the ratings battle and you know what, a large part of me wish it doesn't. This is coming from an EastEnders fan btw. I don't watch the other soaps. Truth be told, I'm not exactly watching EE right now either, due to the poor quality but it's the only show I have followed over the years and when I say years, I say the last 20 years - even if there have been periods where I've tuned out. Anyway, EE losing out to Corrie, Emmerdale or even Downton Abby may be the kick up the backside the show desperately needs right now. Overnights Xmas Day 2000 The ten most popular programmes on Christmas Day: 1. Coronation Street (ITV): 13.7 million 2. EastEnders 8.50pm episode (BBC1): 12.1 million 3. Who Wants to be a Millionaire? 22.20 (ITV): 11.1 million 4. ITV News at 22.50 (ITV): 10.8 million 5. EastEnders 5.15pm episode (BBC1): 10.1 million 6. Titanic (BBC1) 9.9 million 7. Who Wants to be a Millionaire? 22.50 (ITV) 9.6 million 8 = Emmerdale (ITV): 9.3 million and You've Been Framed at Christmas (ITV): 9.3 million 10. The Royle Family (BBC1): 8.3 million 2003 Only Fools was number 1 on Christmas day 2006 Vicar of Dibley was number 1 on Christmas Day |
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Is that definite?
Sorry, I should really have a source.
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Not sure. It's what I read from another ratings thread on DS that ended up closed.
Sorry, I should really have a source. ![]() 13:15 - Home and Away: 190k (2.8%) 13:45 - Neighbours: 559k (8.1%) 17:30 - Neighbours: 929k (5.5%) 18:00 - Home and Away: 738k (3.9%) 18:30 - Hollyoaks: 858k (4.3%) 19:00 - Emmerdale: 6.98m (33.9%) , +1: 122k (0.55%) * peak: 7.42m (35.2%) at 19:20 19:30 - Coronation Street: 8.72m (40.3%) , +1: 108k (0.46%) * peak: 9.11m (41.2%) at 19:50 20:00 - EastEnders: 6.81m (30.6%) * peak: 7.19m (32.3%) at 20:15 20:30 - Coronation Street: 8.78m (37.7%) , +1: 185k (0.75%) * peak: 9.24m (38.6%) at 19:50 |
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Thank you D M N
![]() Although the ratings are shocking for the time of year, I really shouldn't be surprised given the quality. The last year (actually two and a half years) has been bad but the last six months especially, the show has sunk. |
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Yes, it was true: http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...postcount=1126
13:15 - Home and Away: 190k (2.8%) 13:45 - Neighbours: 559k (8.1%) 17:30 - Neighbours: 929k (5.5%) 18:00 - Home and Away: 738k (3.9%) 18:30 - Hollyoaks: 858k (4.3%) 19:00 - Emmerdale: 6.98m (33.9%) , +1: 122k (0.55%) * peak: 7.42m (35.2%) at 19:20 19:30 - Coronation Street: 8.72m (40.3%) , +1: 108k (0.46%) * peak: 9.11m (41.2%) at 19:50 20:00 - EastEnders: 6.81m (30.6%) * peak: 7.19m (32.3%) at 20:15 20:30 - Coronation Street: 8.78m (37.7%) , +1: 185k (0.75%) * peak: 9.24m (38.6%) at 19:50 Impressive figures there for Corrie- the Tyrone and Kirsty storyline is clearly gripping viewers right now. a 40% share on a Friday is brilliant too. |
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Emmerdale: 7.63m (35.8%) [+1: 135k (0.5%)]
Eastenders: 6.42m (24.9%)
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EastEnders obviously dented by The Royal Variety Performance.
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EastEnders obviously dented by The Royal Variety Performance.
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Well the Royal variety performance is only on once a year
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Shouldn't it be the other way round?
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Emmerdale: 7.63m (35.8%) [+1: 135k (0.5%)]
Eastenders: 6.42m (24.9%) ![]() |
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